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Hwgeek 01-30-2019 06:47 AM

[Various]Intel Xeon W-3175X Reviewed
 
lol I had too, I can't help it since the power consumption of this CPU is Massive when OCed/AVX512 used.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13748...cores-2999-usd

And if you like to read the review by "JustBuyIt!":
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...-cpu,5976.html

He gave this fail attempt 4.5/5 score vs 3.5/5 for 2990WX since it was expensive!

https://img.purch.com/r/711x457/aHR0...ltYWdlNi5wbmc=

Defoler 01-30-2019 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hwgeek (Post 27831500)
He gave this fail attempt 4.5/5 score vs 3.5/5 for 2990WX since it was expensive!


Clearly you didn't read his review.

He stated, that because in his eyes, professionals who need such a CPU, might be less sensitive to price, and considering the pros vs cons, and the benefits over the TR, he gave it a 4/5 (not 4.5 from what I can see).
He did not give it higher score because it is expensive.
He even stated that in some cases, TR is a hassle that requires reboots to switch between settings sometimes, that he see as a con.

He even stated that in his 2999x review.

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But the unique design has its caveats. You need to have specific workloads in mind able to exploit the 2990WX's massive resources.
That means to him, it is less user friendly than what he expect from a workspace higher core count CPU.

Hwgeek 01-30-2019 07:25 AM

2990WX don't need restart any more, also you should check der8auer review and see that this CPU can have mounting problem and you loose memory channels in each try.

From Anand review:
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Speaking with Intel before this review, they gave us two numbers of ‘power limits’. Intel defines two power limits for this processor: the PL1 or ‘sustained’ power limit, at 255W, and a PL2 or ‘turbo’ power limit at 510W. Normally Intel sets the PL2 at only 25% higher, but this time around, it’s a full 100% higher. Ouch.
ALso this is overclockble Xeon and with OC you get over 70DB with it massive AIO and Delta fans, good luck working next to it for hours every day, It's just not particle product!

tpi2007 01-30-2019 07:29 AM

The biggest takeaway is that this is a symbolic response from Intel to at least have something that can stand up against the 2990WX. Symbolic mainly because they are reportedly only going to make 1500 of them, with one motherboard maker only making 500 motherboards and the other the rest. It's not hard to understand why. They couldn't price it too high for the risk of sounding too stratospheric and thus not really competing against the 2990WX, but they also couldn't produce more or risk competing against themselves in the Xeon Platinum range. And then, with such clocks, power and thermal characteristics, they probably couldn't make many more even if they wanted to. They are at the very limits of what is possible with a 14nm++ huge monolithic die.

This is a mindshare product sold as part of expensive OEM systems (with accompanying expensive motherboards in the $1500 range), while AMD's 2990WX, with all its flaws (some of them due to Windows' flawed scheduler) is a much more affordable retail product being sold on its own and part of a more affordable ecosystem (Motherboard, RAM, PSU, etc).

WannaBeOCer 01-30-2019 07:58 AM

They test gaming performance but I don't see any mention of the vulnerabilities that were fixed that caused the delay. I also would like to see an IPC comparison between it and Skylake. The overclocked power consumption isn't shocking considering the 2990wx also requires 1000w+ at 5Ghz and above.

Hwgeek 01-30-2019 08:11 AM

IFAIK this is same 8180 silicone- just unlocked so the vulnerabilities are the same, the 9th gent got the HW fixes.

WannaBeOCer 01-30-2019 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hwgeek (Post 27831572)
IFAIK this is same 8180 silicone- just unlocked so the vulnerabilities are the same, the 9th gent got the HW fixes.

It was delayed due to the recent vulnerabilities. It was projected to get more hardware fixes than 9th Gen Coffee lake. Cascade Lake is the new server chip that supports Optane persistent memory.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13301...and-amber-lake

The 8180 doesn't support Optane persistent memory: https://ark.intel.com/products/12049...ache-2-50-GHz-

Last mention of the differences between Coffee Lake refresh vs Cascade lake - https://www.anandtech.com/show/13450...ectre-meltdown

Kpjoslee 01-30-2019 08:47 AM

Well, after hearing about $8000 rumors about that chip, $3000 actually looks like a bargain lol.

ku4eto 01-30-2019 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpjoslee (Post 27831616)
Well, after hearing about $8000 rumors about that chip, $3000 actually looks like a bargain lol.

Add another 1500$ just for the motherboard, add another 200-300$ just for the cooling, and you are going through the roof already. The CPU and Motherboard alone costs as much as a 2990WX rig. The perofrmance improvement is like 10% overall, power consumption is like 50% more. Price is ~100% at least more. I would give this product.... 5/10.

Kpjoslee 01-30-2019 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ku4eto (Post 27831720)
Add another 1500$ just for the motherboard, add another 200-300$ just for the cooling, and you are going through the roof already. The CPU and Motherboard alone costs as much as a 2990WX rig. The perofrmance improvement is like 10% overall, power consumption is like 50% more. Price is ~100% at least more. I would give this product.... 5/10.

Well, the price of top end product never had great price/performance anyways. Given that it will be released in limited quantity, it will sell out regardless.


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