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Karch 02-14-2019 10:44 AM

Input needed for gaming upgrade.
 
I’m running an i7-3770K and it’s mildly overclocked (4.3Ghz). I’m not a strong or experienced overclocker (but experienced with the same type of mods to my cars), but I’m wanting to improve my gaming experience in Battlefield V.

I picked up a 1080 Ti GPU, running a Samsung 750 Evo ssd, and a new EVGA 1000 G+ PSU.

I also have a 1440p 165 g-force monitor (Acer Predator).

I have been very conflicted on what to run, as I don’t have a defined budget but money is a bit tight (I realize this is subjective).

I wound up seeing a really good deal on an i5-9600K with Asrock Gaming 4 for a price I couldn’t pass up, so I grabbed it.

I’m not about benchmarking for some lofty numbers (car analogy: I’m less concerned about my horsepower number and more about the time slip), more about how smoothly it will play in BF game and how high I can set the graphics.

I am a bit bummed that turning down the graphics in BF allows you to see the opponents better, as I really love the visuals but hate getting my butt kicked (wife does better than me most of the time as well).

Anyway, do you all think the 9600k with some overclocking will be fine?

What about the Asrock Gaming 4? Normally I would have not gotten that board.

I used to love Asus, but the more I read the more their Z390 leave a lot to be desired.

I don’t care about RGB, my case (Fractal Define R4) is all solid, so I’m not going to see it anyway.

I realize the Aorus might be the preferred OC mobo, but the bios isn’t user friendly.

Again, I’m not looking for max overclock, just a nice board with good I/O and hopefully can give me 5-7 or more years of good play and usage.

Others that I’m thinking about are the Asrock Gaming 6 and Taichi.

I’m currently using my old 212 cooler, it’s been so long I forget that exact model, but figure around 2011 vintage. I was going to get a better one for now but after playing for 90 minutes, my CPU isn’t even hitting 60*C, so I had to remind myself it’s not a concern as of right now.

If I had to, I could sell the 9600K as well, but not sure what I could get for it.

The store won’t take back the Gaming 4 as a credit unless I return the whole package as a return/refund, but, I’m so far ahead on what I paid for them it’s a non-starter.

I also do a lot of web browsing, word processing, etc.

Some video encoding but not a lot.

Thank you for your time.


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shilka 02-14-2019 10:53 AM

The Hyper 212 Evo is cooler more than 10 years old by now and even new it was not a great cooler so buying a new CPU cooler is a really good idea

If you dont have a ton of money you can still get really cheap coolers which are much better than the old outdated mediocre Hyper 212 Evo
https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-...ernatives.html

Karch 02-14-2019 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shilka (Post 27853332)
The Hyper 212 Evo is cooler more than 10 years old by now and even new it was not a great cooler so buying a new CPU cooler is a really good idea

If you dont have a ton of money you can still get really cheap coolers which are much better than the old outdated mediocre Hyper 212 Evo
https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-...ernatives.html



Thank you. I did read that thread last month, I will get a new cooler when I install the new board and cpu.

My reasoning for not getting a new cooler now isn’t that I think the 212 is good, but that my current temps aren’t a problem at all, so why spend it now, for a board and chip I hope to retire (maybe sell), in the near future?

On the subject of cooling, I can get an EVGA CLC for about $75, or spend up to that much, about, for an air cooler.

The engineer in me thinks the air is a better option as my case is pretty quiet, and I like idea of only thing to fail would be fans, which is regardless of air or water, as opposed to leak and pump failure potentials of the water.

Again, keep in mind I’m not looking to push the cpu to the higher end of its capabilities.

So, for cooling, what would be the best Watts/dollar, and still be considered good?

Bang for the buck, in other words.




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shilka 02-14-2019 12:44 PM

A CLC cooler is not going to be much better than your 212 Evo in fact its going to be worse in some ways
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...lc-cooler.html

A Cryorig H7 is a good bang for buck cooler
@doyll is the cooler expert here on OCN so he probably has more suggestions

TheHorse 02-14-2019 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shilka (Post 27853332)
The Hyper 212 Evo is cooler more than 10 years old by now and even new it was not a great cooler so buying a new CPU cooler is a really good idea

If you dont have a ton of money you can still get really cheap coolers which are much better than the old outdated mediocre Hyper 212 Evo
https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-...ernatives.html

Actually it was pretty good for mid range consumer CPUs, not the flagship i7s with massive TDPs but it was perfectly good for even quite overclocked i5s. That said you're completely right about there being much better options now.

Karch 02-15-2019 12:19 AM

Any thoughts about which motherboard to go with, and perhaps memory (16GB, 2x8 sticks)?


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UltraMega 02-15-2019 01:47 AM

I had a 3770K @4.2ghz before I got the CPU I have now and there is no difference at all with the 1080Ti in 4K. I thought my CPU being so old might be holding my GPU back a little at least... Nope. You might get a small difference at 1440p but still I don't think it would be much. Certainly not enough to justify spending several hundred dollars.

I would recommend you just not upgrade. How fast is your ram? Can you OC your CPU any higher? Are the temps the issue or is it just unstable?

You can get a delid kit for like $10 on ebay now. As far as coolers, the 212 is the best cooler for the price and the Nuctua is the best cooler period short of custom water cooling.


DDR3 ram is also way cheaper than DDR4. What ram speed are you running now? get some 2133mhz ram if you haven't already.


Assuming you could overclock the CPU you have now more than you are now, just do that... and even if you can't you really don't need to upgrade. Unless you got those parts for dirt cheap, I would return them.

shilka 02-15-2019 02:06 AM

The 212 Evo is not the best cooler for the price its more than 10 years old and you get many coolers that are newer better and cheaper

blodflekk 02-15-2019 02:16 AM

I second the other comments on upgrading the cooler. The main selling point for that 212 was price. It was dirt cheap and way out performed the box coolers. However these new chips run very hot and you'll want to get a better cooler and increase your headroom. There are a lot of really great air coolers on the market. If doyll shows up, he'll give better advice than anyone else here for air coolers.

Since you said you already have the 9600 and the mobo, I'd just start with that. Overclock it and see how far it will go and how it performs in game. Swapping out the mobo before even trying it out seems pointless. However if you insist, the taichi is pretty well respected board.

As for memory, 3000-3600mhz is still the sweet spot for price and performance. Its also alot easier to get stable than those 4000mhz+ kits.

white owl 02-15-2019 02:31 AM

The best CPU cooler for the money ($55) is the True Spirit 140 Power, it rivals the D14. If it doesn't end with the word Power, it's a different cooler that isn't as good. That being said, it's very tall so if it's too tall for your case there are still other options that work as just as good but you'll probably pay a bit more.
The CPU will run any modern game just fine but I can imagine you'll find yourself CPU bound in BF5 even at 1440p. The 2700 and 9700k are much more future proof and money could have been saved else where in the build to compensate but what's done is done. The board is very good for said CPU, it would even be a good budget board for the 9900k.
Check your board's QVL, get a cheap kit of 3200mhz ram that has been tested on it, upgrade your cooler and call it a day.


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