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}SkOrPn--' 02-26-2019 12:59 PM

Is Zen2 going to be built using 7FF+ EUV tech?
 
I have tried to answer this question myself but I can't seem to find any articles that tells us exactly what TSMC is using to build these newer Zen2 parts this year. Or will AMD wait until Zen2+ or Zen3 before using 7nm EUV lithography?

Does anyone know for sure yet what lithography Zen2 will be using? All AMD keeps talking about in 7nm and nothing what so ever on how Zen2 is getting there. I am hoping that Ryzen 3000 series will be our first EUV CPU products.

Seronx 02-27-2019 10:08 PM

Zen2 is TSMC's 7-nanometer node with High Performance Computing standard libraries. Zen3 which is next year[2020] will be on the 7-nanometer EUV node.

Matisse/Rome = 2019, Zen2, TSMC 7FF(DUV)
Vermeer/Milan = 2020, Zen3, TSMC 7FF Plus(EUV)

}SkOrPn--' 02-28-2019 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seronx (Post 27872510)
Zen2 is TSMC's 7-nanometer node with High Performance Computing standard libraries. Zen3 which is next year[2020] will be on the 7-nanometer EUV node.

Matisse/Rome = 2019, Zen2, TSMC 7FF(DUV)
Vermeer/Milan = 2020, Zen3, TSMC 7FF Plus(EUV)

Thank you for answering the question. The reason I asked is because I was under the impression that EUV was the holy grail of nodes, yet Mark Papermaster says that Zen3 will only be a incremental update over Zen2. I personally would have expected 7FF+ EUV to bring a huge improvement over 7FF DUV. Unless Papermaster is not that confident on EUV, or simply meaning no other changes to the architecture of Zen overall which I would still like to believe that EUV has a huge performance advantage over DUV.

Anyway I have a 2600X and will be mating it to a X570 motherboard. My current AM4 mobo has a broken 2nd PCIe slot and doesn't overclock (ab350 Pro4). Just starting to wonder if I should wait for the first EUV chip or just jump on the Zen2 bandwagon right away. I picked up the 2600X just last June so it is really new to me and runs great. Not positive that I need to replace it yet, and I been really wanting 7nm EUV for a long while now.


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