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KingUniverse 03-01-2019 04:13 PM

RX 590 or Vega 64??
 
I'm having a huge dilemma and need public opinion.

There's an RX 590 for $260

There's a Vega 64 for $420

I'm upgrading my Crossfire R9 380x PC and really stuck on which to choose. I have an IPS 1080p monitor hooked up to it (60hz, nothing fancy) a 3D 1080p TV, as well as a 4K curved panel. The whole reason I want to upgrade is because I can no longer play modern games maxed out at 1080p, and haven't even attempted with 4k (or even 1440 for that matter). I want a SOLID 60 FPS at 1080p Ultra, and after watching plenty of benchmark videos, it seems the RX 590 holds it's own in that department, but a few games are averaging in the 50s. That makes me think that it might not be future proof enough to keep gaming on Ultra (I slide everything to the right on all games, and get O.C.D. about it when I have to make compromises on quality to keep 60fps). My dilemma comes from the fact that the 590 feels inadequate, and the Vega 64 seems like overkill. What's your opinions? Is the $160 extra worth it? It will be more like $280-$300 extra after a waterblock. Still worth it?

ALSO: I have a 60mm thick, all copper, 480mm radiator with a D5, so water cooling IS an option, and the Vega 64 seems to favor water (Also I can't find any blocks for the 590, and since it's essentially already a TWICE overclocked RX 480, it seems pointless to attempt) I'm running an FX-8350 at 5.1 GHz, and I already hear the crowd "THAT HORRIBLE 6 YEAR OLD CPU IS GONNA BE A BOTTLENECK!" and no, at 5.1GHz it will be fine with either card.

maltamonk 03-01-2019 04:34 PM

Definitely no on the 590 as it's very shortly due a price drop due to the 1660ti. After a price drop then maybe. To be perfectly honest this isn't the best time for that segment. Used 1070s, 1070ti's, and 1080s are eating that segment as they are the better buys.

Vega 64 has a niche......if that's your thing.

TheHorse 03-01-2019 04:38 PM

Vega 64 absolutely, wait until you can find it for $370 or less though. They're going for way too much now.

Honestly don't waste the money on an aftermarket cooler one if you can stand a little bit of blower noise. My reference Vega 64 stays really good on temperatures but runs like **** with any slight memory overclock anyway, so in my case better cooling wouldn't have mattered at all and I would have wasted money on an aftermarket cooler because it's already running at pretty good temps.

KingUniverse 03-01-2019 04:53 PM

Unfortunately, this is in an AMD case, and it would be blasphemy to put an Nvidia card in there, so AMD cards are my only option. I'm so obsessed with water cooling, I may inevitably get a water block for it even if it doesn't net any gains 😆 Power hungry cards like the 64 do much better when kept cool, even when not overclocked.

TheHorse 03-01-2019 04:55 PM

1660Ti is a waste of money and not nearly as good of a value as people are trying to claim it is. It's a tiny bit cheaper than a Vega 56 for 20% less performance.

Firehawk 03-01-2019 05:13 PM

If you're going to put it under water anyway, consider the Vega 56 as well. GamersNexus did a full video showing registry tweaks that can really open up performance on them, so long as you can cool it. Vega 64 for $420 isn't a bad price though, and the tweaks might work for it as well.

RX 590 and 580 will be getting a price drop, so maybe wait a little bit for that.

AllenG 03-01-2019 06:06 PM

hit up this guy for his waterblocked vega 64.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/1477...070-armor.html

SoloCamo 03-01-2019 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingUniverse (Post 27874880)
I'm having a huge dilemma and need public opinion.

There's an RX 590 for $260

There's a Vega 64 for $420

I'm upgrading my Crossfire R9 380x PC and really stuck on which to choose. I have an IPS 1080p monitor hooked up to it (60hz, nothing fancy) a 3D 1080p TV, as well as a 4K curved panel. The whole reason I want to upgrade is because I can no longer play modern games maxed out at 1080p, and haven't even attempted with 4k (or even 1440 for that matter). I want a SOLID 60 FPS at 1080p Ultra, and after watching plenty of benchmark videos, it seems the RX 590 holds it's own in that department, but a few games are averaging in the 50s. That makes me think that it might not be future proof enough to keep gaming on Ultra (I slide everything to the right on all games, and get O.C.D. about it when I have to make compromises on quality to keep 60fps). My dilemma comes from the fact that the 590 feels inadequate, and the Vega 64 seems like overkill. What's your opinions? Is the $160 extra worth it? It will be more like $280-$300 extra after a waterblock. Still worth it?

ALSO: I have a 60mm thick, all copper, 480mm radiator with a D5, so water cooling IS an option, and the Vega 64 seems to favor water (Also I can't find any blocks for the 590, and since it's essentially already a TWICE overclocked RX 480, it seems pointless to attempt) I'm running an FX-8350 at 5.1 GHz, and I already hear the crowd "THAT HORRIBLE 6 YEAR OLD CPU IS GONNA BE A BOTTLENECK!" and no, at 5.1GHz it will be fine with either card.

Vega 64. You are probably talking the Sapphire Nitro+ one. I just picked up a $399 Sapphire reference card not long ago myself. I went from a 1125mhz core / 1500mhz mem 290x to a oc'ed Red Devil Golden Sample 580 and then to this card. The 590 cost way too much for what it offers.

Even my reference cooled card with an undervolt holds 1630mhz core all day with 1050mhz on the mem. Huge improvement and the 590 isn't remotely in the same league.

As far as your 8350 at 5.1? Sorry, it is quite the big bottleneck at 1080p. I had a 8120, then 8350 then 9590 and the 9590 held back my 290x quite a bit and it was paired with cas10 2400mhz memory. You are talking cards considerably faster than what your 380x Crossfire setup is capable of.

So on that note, personally at 1080p anything above a RX580 is a complete waste IMO (especially with how dirt cheap they are and can oc to match a 590) - but if you had to make a choice, the Vega 64 is the better price/performance by far. Do the card a favor though, let it stretch it's legs a bit at 1440p or higher to actually make use of it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHorse (Post 27874898)
Vega 64 absolutely, wait until you can find it for $370 or less though. They're going for way too much now.

Honestly don't waste the money on an aftermarket cooler one if you can stand a little bit of blower noise. My reference Vega 64 stays really good on temperatures but runs like **** with any slight memory overclock anyway, so in my case better cooling wouldn't have mattered at all and I would have wasted money on an aftermarket cooler because it's already running at pretty good temps.


A Sapphire Nitro+ at $420 is a good deal considering what the card can do. And as always YMMV on each card. I run my HBM at 1050 all day without issue. Even 1100 in 99% of titles (BFV seems angry with 1100mhz though).

KingUniverse 03-01-2019 07:47 PM

I hit up the guy with the blocked 64, apparently it's a Gigabyte with Samsung memory, so that's gonna make a beautiful OC'r. I HONESTLY would just get the 590 if it didn't drop to 50s in certain games. Just wish it would have held 60 in all tests and I would have already bought it

kd5151 03-01-2019 07:58 PM

RX 590 is bad. Vega 64 is good.


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