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jopeness 05-18-2019 07:55 PM

New Loop & Drain config suggestions
 
i am looking for suggestions as I am adding a drain valve and looking to see if my new schema is more optimal.
Quick backstory, original build was my first custom loop, i understand CPU -> GPU line was not optimal but I realized the direction after bending and was limited on extra tubing and time. so fast forward, i have to replace all 6 fans (4 died). They sent me 6 new fans cause well good customer service.
I am looking to see if my new looping idea is solid and/or suggestions/comments.
Old Loop produced 16-18c CPU and probably about 45-50c GPU(but I can't remember exactly the GPU, which i know is more important since it was post CPU)

Old loop
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qthyrzquf1o489k/old.jpg?dl=0

New loop 1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0niiozhjhpnwiq/new.jpg?dl=0

New Loop 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fu78ea0d8ep1k0k/new2.jpg?dl=0


I thank all feedback
and i know the RES was really low, but I not all the fans crapped out at the same time

Vlada011 05-20-2019 04:00 AM

I have similar configuration as your in same case Lian Li PC-O11 WXC.

You need to install drain port on lowest part in loop.
Best on radiator with Male to male rotary and X spliter to separate loop from drain part.
You will need two male to male rotary because then you could turn left right ball valve.

This is maybe best example...

https://i.postimg.cc/BQ7B2J1b/12-1030x687.jpg

Draining loop is not complicate if you have right tools.
Transfusion system drain loop very easy. You need one transfusion system and one 20-50ml Syringe with standard end.
Because that tube is capable to fit on syringe without needle with just little effor. And it's enough thin to go deep in system.

I will use this kind now to drain loop and add ball valve.

https://i.postimg.cc/2yZrTkSY/Dispos...pg-350x350.jpg

Off course you need to cut all of these plastic parts and to use common syringe not from picture.
And little by little you can draing loop completely. Actually if you have 50ml syringe then faster. I use 20ml I didn't found bigger.

I tried and I pushed him completely up to monoblock.

And I didn't resolved for me. I will use 2 x 90 angled adapters and to move inlet port from top of bottom and somehow to install ball valve.
I'm limited with space as well. But I will menage somehow.
But I swear in god I will not buy any more ASUS products if I don't find ASUS ROG-TUF VGA Holder. I use Styrofoam until find him.


https://i.postimg.cc/K8WXpKRM/IMG-1171.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/VL725S9V/IMG-1172.jpg


My drain mechanism for now.

https://i.postimg.cc/nLqdKM7Z/IMG-1170.jpg

Than when I resolve ball valve everything will be easier and I will probably switch to hard tubes because today people pretend like you don't have loop if no hard tubes. That only push me to use glass and to laugh them.

Vlada011 05-20-2019 04:18 AM

Your situation is easier you have two radiators. Bottom should hold Ball valve because that mechanism is heavy when you connect everything.
I have only one and that question bother me.
What to do, to install second radiator on bottom or to invest in Lian Li Vertical GPU kit. For PC-O11 is 80 euro because it's alu.
Can't be both used and additional investment is 15$ for PCI-E x1 to x1 20cm extender if I want to use and sound card with Vertical GPU.

Shawnb99 05-20-2019 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlada011 (Post 27972614)
Your situation is easier you have two radiators. Bottom should hold Ball valve because that mechanism is heavy when you connect everything.

I have only one and that question bother me.

What to do, to install second radiator on bottom or to invest in Lian Li Vertical GPU kit. For PC-O11 is 80 euro because it's alu.

Can't be both used and additional investment is 15$ for PCI-E x1 to x1 20cm extender if I want to use and sound card with Vertical GPU.



I’d pick the second Radiator. More cooling means you can run your fans at a lower speed.

ThrashZone 05-20-2019 08:53 AM

Hi,
You need a different multiport radiator on the bottom so you can have a drain on the bottom otherwise you'll never get the fluid out of the bottom rad.

That bottom rad would be better served on the front with ports on bottom with existing parts and then a drain is straight forward but piping needs to be vertical and horizontal as possible gravity and all.

Vlada011 05-21-2019 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnb99 (Post 27972672)
I’d pick the second Radiator. More cooling means you can run your fans at a lower speed.


You are right, but my goals are not exactly 45-50C temps. If they stay below 60C that's fine for me.
I run Benchmark on ASUS GTX1080Ti Poseidon and temps were 49-55C.
That's fine for me.

Problem is because I desperately need VGA Holder.
With Vertical GPU Mount I don't need him. Now he is necessary and I don't want to pay some ugly RGB Aliexpress solutions.
I search for ASUS ROG-TUF VGA Holder because it's almost invisible and I saw guy who keep with same GPU as mine and fit perfectly.


Trashzone is correct. No matter where you install Drain Port liquid will stay in anything below him.
This radiator is maybe solution. New Alphacool NexXxoSS V2.

There is a two size ST30 and XT45. If he stay on bottom of case I suppose you need 90 angled adapter, male to male rotary and ball valve and you could turn ball valve in any direction if you have space, off course and G 1/4 Plug. I prefer Plug compatible with Allen Key, nothing else.

jopeness 05-30-2019 04:54 PM

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Thank you for all your feedback. I will definitely be buying that syringe. When redoing this loop I was replacing all 6 fans and therefore had everything in pieces. So draining was not an issue this time but it will be next time. I did the rebuild before most of these replies came in, but for the most part all was followed. Also I have not found a bracket that worked properly for the vertical GPU. I did buy the one from Lian-li, but it won't work wi th a bottom rad. There was a guy who custom made his, he was the first person to do a build log with this case, and his stuff certainly helped me in building this.

Anyway this is what is looks like now, excuse the lighting, I had to do some filters to drown out the side LEDs I have.

FYI, CPU temps are actually higher than the previous build, but GPU temps are -20c. So hashcat and l0phcrack will be happy.


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