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opt33 06-02-2019 02:16 PM

I built ~ 20 computers in past 20 years, never touched an AMD mobo, cpu, or gpu, ryzen 7nm will be my first. While I dont understand cheering for a piece of equipment, if I did im not sure buying only intel and nvidia for 20 yrs qualifies me as an AMD fanboy. But any company that has a monopoly (intel on high end) is going to exploit consumers, it is business 101... look at pharmacies and non-generic drugs. When the competition (AMD in this case), despite lower resources and R&D comes from behind and provides a cheaper, competitive high end product and without penny pitching ie using solder tim, etc, I think that win for the consumer in bringing better products at a lower price is worth cheering about. Im a fan of quality products at competitive prices, monopolies do not supply competition.

maltamonk 06-02-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by opt33 (Post 27989002)
I built ~ 20 computers in past 20 years, never touched an AMD mobo, cpu, or gpu, ryzen 7nm will be my first. While I dont understand cheering for a piece of equipment, if I did im not sure buying only intel and nvidia for 20 yrs qualifies me as an AMD fanboy. But any company that has a monopoly (intel on high end) is going to exploit consumers, it is business 101... look at pharmacies and non-generic drugs. When the competition (AMD in this case), despite lower resources and R&D comes from behind and provides a cheaper, competitive high end product and without penny pitching ie using solder tim, etc, I think that win for the consumer in bringing better products at a lower price is worth cheering about. Im a fan of quality products at competitive prices, monopolies do not supply competition.

Wow you missed out on some good hardware. On the CPU/mobo...you'd have to go back a ways, but on the GPU front 7970, 290x, and ofc mid/low end gpu's.

m4fox90 06-02-2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wishmaker (Post 27988970)
AMD fanboys are the saltiest you can find.
When E6600 came out you were in denial for 12 months.
Now this chip is not even launched and praise AMD for being victorious.

This industry works in cycles and once AMD is on top, INTEL will take out the big guns.

Speaking of benchmark manipulation, when NVIDIA was haxing and AMD came out with proof that they were, y'all praised your lord and saviour AMD.
When INTEL tries to clarify the situation and show that AMD's numbers were not entirely correct, INTEL is playing dirty again.

Its that time of the year when I retire from OCN because of the super toxicity when it comes to AMD fanboyz.

You're right about one thing, there's definitely some toxicity.

philhalo66 06-02-2019 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishmaker (Post 27988970)
AMD fanboys are the saltiest you can find.
When E6600 came out you were in denial for 12 months.
Now this chip is not even launched and praise AMD for being victorious.

This industry works in cycles and once AMD is on top, INTEL will take out the big guns.

Speaking of benchmark manipulation, when NVIDIA was haxing and AMD came out with proof that they were, y'all praised your lord and saviour AMD.
When INTEL tries to clarify the situation and show that AMD's numbers were not entirely correct, INTEL is playing dirty again.

Its that time of the year when I retire from OCN because of the super toxicity when it comes to AMD fanboyz.

no worse than intel fanboys, that goes both ways, Intel fanboys are far worse they use personal attacks when you criticize their purchases.

magnek 06-02-2019 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishmaker (Post 27988970)
AMD fanboys are the saltiest you can find.
When E6600 came out you were in denial for 12 months.
Now this chip is not even launched and praise AMD for being victorious.

This industry works in cycles and once AMD is on top, INTEL will take out the big guns.

Speaking of benchmark manipulation, when NVIDIA was haxing and AMD came out with proof that they were, y'all praised your lord and saviour AMD.
When INTEL tries to clarify the situation and show that AMD's numbers were not entirely correct, INTEL is playing dirty again.

Its that time of the year when I retire from OCN because of the super toxicity when it comes to AMD fanboyz.

Replace AMD with Intel, E6600 with P4 (EE) and the same also rings true.

Kpjoslee 06-03-2019 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by philhalo66 (Post 27989096)
no worse than intel fanboys, that goes both ways, Intel fanboys are far worse they use personal attacks when you criticize their purchases.

Well, you will get personal attacks if you criticize their purchase lol. Make criticisms on products, not their purchases.

ToTheSun! 06-03-2019 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NihilOC (Post 27987536)
crackpot conspiracy theorists that hijack every privacy or security thread rambling about how they personally just run an airgapped abacus rather than rely on M$ Windoze spyware.

That made me chuckle heartily.

Ghilly 06-03-2019 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NihilOC (Post 27987536)
Honestly, from the perspective of someone that is slowly visiting this site less and less, what is killing the site is every thread being filled with "Intel fanboy" or "AMD fanboy" namecalling. That and crackpot conspiracy theorists that hijack every privacy or security thread rambling about how they personally just run an airgapped abacus rather than rely on M$ Windoze spyware.

People just don't find that interesting, at this point I don't see it changing however and I suspect the user base will just slowly die out as people find other news aggregators. Overclock.net is also more than likely facing reasonable competition from the declining interest in overclocking, and the rise of more general purpose competing services like Google News.

This is the reason for me also - the whole Amdz is da best /Intel is da best and Im the new Alan Turing garbage attitude that covers this site is so boring

mothergoose729 06-03-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rluker5 (Post 27988872)
I don't have untrusted guests running vms on my computers so I don't have to worry about them jumping from their hyperthread to mine.

Do you host your server with Amazon AWS? No... lots of other people do.

bmgjet 06-03-2019 02:56 PM

I remember when the shoe was on the other foot and intel claiming Cine bench is the most accurate benchmark there is and disabling there AMD lock out in the complier was cheating.


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