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Serious_Don 07-26-2019 12:25 PM

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Lots have people including me have come to defend your cost to performance buy. Now it's just getting silly to the point of trolling.

Itt we learn x99 is prettier than x570 and op has money... And that all ram is binned and your 3000 kits of bdie running over 4000 are in your imaginations.

LancerVI 07-26-2019 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alastair (Post 28047090)
I dont see PGA as a catch. Infact I see it as a pro. I have bent the pins of many an AMD cpu and been able to bend the pins back. I have bent many LGA socket motherboards and thrown them in the bin. I dont know about you. But being able to save the CPU after bending a pin sounds like a massive advantage. "But I pull out the CPU when I remove the cooler" I hear you say. Well firstly instead of just trying to yank off your cooler just twist it back and forth gently and it will eventually come free. And if you do happen to pull it out the socket any way well it doesnt damage anything.

Exactly. Pins are an ADVANTAGE. I was sad to see them go on Intel. Much easier to fix if there's a problem. Try fixing bent pins on an LGA array. Total Nightmare!!

1096bimu 07-26-2019 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Serious_Don (Post 28061156)
Lots have people including me have come to defend your cost to performance buy. Now it's just getting silly to the point of trolling.

Itt we learn x99 is prettier than x570 and op has money.

Dude, who ever said I got better RAM sticks than modern 4000 sticks?
What's wrong with you people constantly accusing me of saying things I never did?

WannaBeOCer 07-26-2019 12:39 PM

I just want to know why you have a water bottle sitting inside of your case?

LancerVI 07-26-2019 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer (Post 28061174)
I just want to know why you have a water bottle sitting inside of your case?

LOL...... Indeed.

Serious_Don 07-26-2019 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1096bimu (Post 28061154)
The security flaws don't matter to home users a single bit, they're worrisome for attacks on other virtual machines running on the same computer.
RAM stick manufacturers bin their stuff, you can't just buy cheap ram, run a higher profile and have the same thing as more expensive RAM.
what? unzip? isn't that storage speed limited?

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Originally Posted by 1096bimu (Post 28061170)
Dude, who ever said I got better RAM sticks than modern 4000 sticks?
What's wrong with you people constantly accusing me of saying things I never did?

I was quoting the bold portion of text from a comment you literally made within minutes of my post. Just about everybody building ryzen 3k systems right now buy lower rated b-die, hynix C, or micron E, and overclock them to 3600-3800 with tight timings to max out with a 1:1 IF clock. It would seem the only RAM that is actually getting binned are the super high speed 4000+ kits.

ozlay 07-26-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by andrews2547 (Post 28052738)
OP got it for $550. A 2700X build (as listed there) is ~$325 more.

That says 750cad for what he got which is $550 USD. The 2700x is 875cad or 125cad more. Which is $100 usd. A 2700 non x is $100 USD cheaper then a 2700x so the same price.

Samurai707 07-26-2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Notanymore (Post 28056926)
Do I care if I'm getting 100 fps (AMD) while gaming instead of 102 fps (intel)? Nope. And I'm smoking intel everywhere else...LOL! It's a no-brainer. A mere 2% hardly qualifies declaring intel as "better at gaming." And what do you want 150 fps for anyway when 60 fps is optimal?

60fps gaming zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

dagget3450 07-26-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Samurai707 (Post 28061386)
60fps gaming zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

The post you quoted is relevant to this thread though.

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It's faster but not "much" faster by any means of the imagination.
To me "much faster" means 50% more single thread.

Also Ryzen 3000 is fast and low power but I don't think it's cool at all, it's just made from low grade reject server chips, where as the 5960x is a top quality, complete chip. Also there's nothing "advanced" about fans on chipsets. They can't even bother to make an effective heat sink because they want their boards to look like alien space ships.

And for the same price of $570 USD, I'd be looking at bottom end trash MB to go with the 3600. I would much rather prefer an ASUS ROG board.



Yes it would, but there are massive down sides to Zen 1 and Zen+ with inter-core latency. Also I never wanted any of the mainstream boards, Even if I choose AMD it will have to be threadripper, but then thread ripper has too many threads that I don't need.

Also I think you're underestimating Intel, the 5960x is a match for Zen+ not Zen1 considering the clock speed advantages.


Who's gonna run these old Intel chips at stock? They all had so much headroom.

AMD is for some reason ridiculously fast in Cinebench, but not so much in other things especially games. So I don't think 3600 is going to beat the 5960x in Cinebench MT.
The 3600 will be faster in games but I game at 4k60 so CPU performance is not a big issue for me.

Yes I can absolutely sell these as well, but I think I'll use these to wait for next-gen. My old X79 has so many problems and quirks it takes like 5 minutes to boot up because the lack of UEFI, no NVME, and BIOS bugs that aren't getting fixed.



crazycrave 09-13-2019 08:42 PM

I still have a working e8400 on 775 / X58 x5660 /FX 6300 on AM3 / .. but there more collectors items now that I moved to Gen 3 Ryzen as with some fine tuning I hit 520 single tread and with Auto Boost . https://valid.x86.fr/bench/yhrtin/1


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