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TK421 08-15-2019 12:00 AM

Best memory kit for X570
 
So I'm researching around and can't really find the definitive answer for this.


Anyone care to chime in on which memory kit should I buy?

I'm aiming to
  1. Best memory speed and low latency
  2. 1:1 FCLK with 3900x
  3. Preferably low profile or non RGB. Doesn't have to meet this but would be good if it did.
  4. Can be used to run quad channel stuff in the future.
  5. If possible, 32GB or greater.

I'm also considering dual rank due to its advantages but can't really be sure if the disadvantages will outweigh the speed benefits. They'll run slower with looser timings afaik.


Money is not an issue. But I prefer not to spend on features that I don't need (rgb, corsair's cooling fan etc).






Hardware planned

3900x
Crosshair 8 Hero
Swiftech Drive X3 360mm

RedBlueHue4 08-15-2019 12:47 PM

Sorry you've had this post up for 12 hours and no one has responded to try and help you out. Seems this website has alot of folks who don't care to help someone curious and new to PC like myself but instead boast about their things and rant about rumors or irrelevant things.

For the best memory kits on Ryzen 3000 anything Samsung B-die should do an excellent job. B-die is not guaranteed on any kits (atleast to my knowledge) but to get a good lead on what kits most likely are Samsung B-die look for kits with low latency. For example alot of G.skill 3200mhz -cl14-14-14-35 are B-die or 3600 cl16 '' " " are too.

To be more specific the recently launched g.skill neo DDR4 are specifically optimized for Ryzen processors. They are RGB, but nearly all "GTZN" with low latency stats are B-die the "GTZNC" also have very good timings but are slightly looser timings in ras/tras timing. I believe they are Hynix M-die.

If dead set on not wanting RGB, look at the G.skill tridentZ non RGB SKUS. Doing a quick search on Google for "which G.skill ddr4 are Samsung B-die" in one of those few top threads there is a great thread from reddit that a gentleman refers to most DDR4 modules and their die type.

Personally I went with G.skill neo recently. Very nicely priced and performance is spot on. Whichever RAM you decide on, I would reccomend looking into Ryzen DRAM calculator for tightening the timing and making the most out of your $. RAM won't be the most influential thing on your system, so get the good GPU/CPU/Mobo before the RAM. Hope that helps!

Fluxmaven 08-15-2019 01:05 PM

You can check the B-die finder to see what kits are actually B-die.

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

Samsung is ending production of B-die though, so it may be harder to source a 2nd set if you want to add more down the line.

AlphaC 08-15-2019 01:39 PM

Have you seen this thread in the subforum you posted in ?


https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-a...x470-x570.html


AMD recommendation is 3600C16 (FLCK 1800MHz).


If you're willing to fine-tune I've seen people with 1900MHz FCLK and I suppose that is what the Trident Z Neo 3800C14 kit is for at a hefty premium assuming your CPU can handle 1900MHz FCLK (not guaranteed).


If price/performance is a consideration and you're willing to put in effort , people have also had Micron E-die working with 3600MHz+.

TK421 08-15-2019 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBlueHue4 (Post 28089646)
Sorry you've had this post up for 12 hours and no one has responded to try and help you out. Seems this website has alot of folks who don't care to help someone curious and new to PC like myself but instead boast about their things and rant about rumors or irrelevant things.

For the best memory kits on Ryzen 3000 anything Samsung B-die should do an excellent job. B-die is not guaranteed on any kits (atleast to my knowledge) but to get a good lead on what kits most likely are Samsung B-die look for kits with low latency. For example alot of G.skill 3200mhz -cl14-14-14-35 are B-die or 3600 cl16 '' " " are too.

To be more specific the recently launched g.skill neo DDR4 are specifically optimized for Ryzen processors. They are RGB, but nearly all "GTZN" with low latency stats are B-die the "GTZNC" also have very good timings but are slightly looser timings in ras/tras timing. I believe they are Hynix M-die.

If dead set on not wanting RGB, look at the G.skill tridentZ non RGB SKUS. Doing a quick search on Google for "which G.skill ddr4 are Samsung B-die" in one of those few top threads there is a great thread from reddit that a gentleman refers to most DDR4 modules and their die type.

Personally I went with G.skill neo recently. Very nicely priced and performance is spot on. Whichever RAM you decide on, I would reccomend looking into Ryzen DRAM calculator for tightening the timing and making the most out of your $. RAM won't be the most influential thing on your system, so get the good GPU/CPU/Mobo before the RAM. Hope that helps!



Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluxmaven (Post 28089666)
You can check the B-die finder to see what kits are actually B-die.

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

Samsung is ending production of B-die though, so it may be harder to source a 2nd set if you want to add more down the line.






Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaC (Post 28089738)
Have you seen this thread in the subforum you posted in ?


https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-a...x470-x570.html


AMD recommendation is 3600C16 (FLCK 1800MHz).


If you're willing to fine-tune I've seen people with 1900MHz FCLK and I suppose that is what the Trident Z Neo 3800C14 kit is for at a hefty premium assuming your CPU can handle 1900MHz FCLK (not guaranteed).


If price/performance is a consideration and you're willing to put in effort , people have also had Micron E-die working with 3600MHz+.









I'm looking at this one. Which is G.skill neo, and comes with 4 sticks so it should be pretty good to run? It's a 3600 and CL16-16-16-36 kit. 4x8GB so it's 32GB.

This is b-die right?

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-...82E16820232862


Or should I seek dual rank kits with 2x16 instead?


Can 3600C16 be tuned with faster FCLK?

RedBlueHue4 08-15-2019 05:42 PM

I prefer 2×16gb kits if some day you want 64gb also memory controller of CPU not being stressed as much atleast from what I've heard.

Those should be B-die, there is also a 3600 cl14 " " " kit of the neo that are exclusively B-die chips. They are high priced and don't find them to be worth it considering the kit you picked out is more than likely also b-die and with some tuning can reach the same timings

TK421 08-16-2019 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBlueHue4 (Post 28090118)
I prefer 2×16gb kits if some day you want 64gb also memory controller of CPU not being stressed as much atleast from what I've heard.

Those should be B-die, there is also a 3600 cl14 " " " kit of the neo that are exclusively B-die chips. They are high priced and don't find them to be worth it considering the kit you picked out is more than likely also b-die and with some tuning can reach the same timings

not finding the cl14 3600 kits


any opinions on rev e 3000 C15 and manually tuning to 3600 C16?


I heard the secondary memory timings would be slightly worse, but offset by rank advantage if running 2x16.

Dphotog 08-18-2019 03:21 PM

Neos coming out with a 3800mhz cl14-16-16-16 set

I have a dual mode 3200 cl14 trident royals cranked to 3733mhz cl-15-16-15-15 at 1.5 for the life of me I can only get like 80percent posts at 3800mhz not sure if it's the fclk causing bios resets or just improper ram timings. But it made it through stress tests just fine at 3800. I have a pretty good latency at 63 or 64 dual rank 2t not sure what advantagesw or disadvantages you get with dual rank

The Pook 08-18-2019 04:02 PM

B-Die is B-Die is B-Die. Outside the really cheap trash-bins like the Antec 1/3 Series DDR4-2400, they all are going to be able to run roughly the same timings at roughly the same clocks.

Some people say that 3200 CL14 is the best and others say 3600 CL15 is the best and others say the >4000 frequency 1.35v kits are the best but until someone buys a huge truck load of RAM and bins it I'm convinced people dunno what they're talking about.

Anything but trash B-Die will be able to do CL15 @ 3600 at 1.4v. My ram is nothing special and at 1.45v will do 3600 CL13, 4000 CL15, and 4160 at CL16 with tight secondaries/tertiaries.

https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

JedixJarf 08-18-2019 04:17 PM

Just get some good quality bdie. Currently rocking 2 of these kits @ 3666 cl14 1:1.

https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288...82E16820331244


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