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Syldon 01-01-2020 09:40 AM

[AMD] AMD Announces Press Conference at CES 2020
 
http://ir.amd.com/news-releases/news...rence-ces-2020

I really looking forward to the next gen Zen. This will only be tidbits, I'm sure. Still it's info about my next system and what I should be looking for to go in it.

skupples 01-01-2020 09:58 AM

the question is, will AMD ever be as over valued as NV? and is NV only over valued as it is due to their AI/Self driving segment? me thinks yes.

SwitchFX 01-01-2020 06:30 PM

Nvidia is in dire need for another hard correction of their stock. I was lucky to buy them cheap and sell them when they were close to their peak. Not sure if we'll ever see an overvalued AMD. They're only just reclaiming their historic highs. Intel may see a correction in Q2-3 2020.

Defoler 01-02-2020 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skupples (Post 28261186)
the question is, will AMD ever be as over valued as NV? and is NV only over valued as it is due to their AI/Self driving segment? me thinks yes.

Over valued? It is valued based on performance and demand. If they perform well, they will be valued higher.
Nvidia are the leaders in GPU cards at AI, driving, workstation and desktop. They are valued accordingly.

oreonutz 01-02-2020 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Defoler (Post 28262254)
Over valued? It is valued based on performance and demand. If they perform well, they will be valued higher.
Nvidia are the leaders in GPU cards at AI, driving, workstation and desktop. They are valued accordingly.

lol. Thats funny. Bet that Kool-Aid tastes good! Too bad I am allergic...

ibb27 01-02-2020 03:35 AM

And AMD is starting "to kill" Intel in the mobile sector:

R7 4800H + Unknown 6GB AMD GPU vs i9-9880H + 2060 laptop
https://twitter.com/_rogame/status/1212675865366212608

ToTheSun! 01-02-2020 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibb27 (Post 28262290)
And AMD is starting "to kill" Intel in the mobile sector:

R7 4800H + Unknown 6GB AMD GPU vs i9-9880H + 2060 laptop
https://twitter.com/_rogame/status/1212675865366212608

How does that constitute "killing"? It's margin of error territory all around.

Liranan 01-02-2020 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheSun! (Post 28262338)
How does that constitute "killing"? It's margin of error territory all around.

If it's priced lower it will be a killer, if they're equally priced then they're just that; equal.

skupples 01-02-2020 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defoler (Post 28262254)
Over valued? It is valued based on performance and demand. If they perform well, they will be valued higher.
Nvidia are the leaders in GPU cards at AI, driving, workstation and desktop. They are valued accordingly.

id' totally agree if I would'a gotten in @ $20 a piece too :D

i get it though. I'm just poking fun. It just shows the massive opportunity coming for other entities. This is all still baby tech. Maybe toddler at this point.

what's intel @ these days? $60ish? let's organize a big short :P


if anyone really believes linus when he says he doesn't invest within the industry, they're foolish. Of course HE doesn't do it. It's not coincidence he's gone gangbusters in the same time period AMD n NV have.

Gunderman456 01-02-2020 07:10 PM

Nooooooooooooooo! I just bought a 3700x and a 5700 XT (see new build log in sig). I don't want to hear about a card that may be twice as fast or a CPU that is 17% better in IPC.

It don't matter, AMD will fail to price them right and if you want a semblance of a deal you'll need to wait till Black Friday after they release sometime mid year to early fall.

I figure I will have at least one year, before... Oh, never mind the new consoles will be equal or lesser then my system and that should carry me for another 5 years... as I exit right.

RWBY FNDM 01-02-2020 11:31 PM

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Got a guy who is presumably somewhat involved in the industry. He simple posted this photo saying that AMD is planning something big. But no links, references, context, objective proof, I.E.

This photo could be a pair of 5700XT boxes unless I’m missing something....

SuprPwrUsr 01-02-2020 11:37 PM

Well, I guess those could be 5900XT boxes. They could be anything though.

TK421 01-02-2020 11:53 PM

inb4 wccf steals this and makes money from clickbait article

oreonutz 01-03-2020 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TK421 (Post 28263966)
inb4 wccf steals this and makes money from clickbait article

I am surprised It hasn't happened yet. Man VideoCardz and WCCF Tech are losing a step...

ToTheSun! 01-03-2020 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Liranan (Post 28263674)
If it's priced lower it will be a killer, if they're equally priced then they're just that; equal.

Absolutely, no contention from me. But performance is all we have to go on for now, AFAIK.

PlugSeven 01-03-2020 01:55 AM

Interesting choice of colour used to obscure the detail.
5600XTs for mine.

skupples 01-03-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TK421 (Post 28263966)
inb4 wccf steals this and makes money from clickbait article

give it a few minutes, they're probably on lunch.

could be anything. 57, 56, 55. 59, 58.

something big = amd attempting high end market for the first time in years... doesn't that basically mean they've gotta jump in @ beating 2080ti, then refresh Q2-3 next year as ampere drops.

EniGma1987 01-03-2020 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWBY FNDM (Post 28263952)
Got a guy who is presumably somewhat involved in the industry. He simple posted this photo saying that AMD is planning something big. But no links, references, context, objective proof, I.E.

This photo could be a pair of 5700XT boxes unless I’m missing something....

We already got product pages for 5600XT from two companies that were quickly taken down due to NDA. SO we know at the very minimum one of those boxes is a new lower end card. Even if it was a 5900XT card, that isnt going to be anything special. It will still be RDNA1 based and wont match a 2080Ti, so nothing to write home about.

The guy teasing this is just trying to get hype, it isnt really anything big.

Liranan 01-04-2020 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EniGma1987 (Post 28265630)
We already got product pages for 5600XT from two companies that were quickly taken down due to NDA. SO we know at the very minimum one of those boxes is a new lower end card. Even if it was a 5900XT card, that isnt going to be anything special. It will still be RDNA1 based and wont match a 2080Ti, so nothing to write home about.

The guy teasing this is just trying to get hype, it isnt really anything big.

Maybe it's another overclockers dream.

Newbie2009 01-05-2020 08:33 AM

5600xt for sure. Partners would be leaking like mad if anything else.

Buris 01-05-2020 09:22 AM

My Guess:

1st: Hyping up how succesful Zen 2 "and Navi" are.
2nd: Hyping up Data Center.
3rd: Showing off their new Mobile chips
4th: Showing off the overpriced 5600 XT
5th: "That's all folks"
6th: "Wait, there's something else!"
7th: Zen 3 demo or Big Navi Demo, slight chance of both "running together"- like they did with TR+Vega a few years back

m4fox90 01-05-2020 09:36 AM

5100XT super low-end targeted at GT 1030 :D

Shawnb99 01-05-2020 09:45 AM

Why is part of the 5 blocked on on one box? Could it be a 9900XT?

m4fox90 01-05-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnb99 (Post 28267462)
Why is part of the 5 blocked on on one box? Could it be a 9900XT?

Because it's hard to color with a mouse sometimes.

Shawnb99 01-05-2020 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by m4fox90 (Post 28267470)
Because it's hard to color with a mouse sometimes.

I know I was being sarcastic. Something like a 9900XT would be something big though.

ozlay 01-05-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by m4fox90 (Post 28267450)
5100XT super low-end targeted at GT 1030 :D

If it comes in the same form factors. I would be interested. AMD needs some HDMI 2.0 low profile, single slot, passive options. An alternative to the low profile 1650 would be nice too. :)

skupples 01-05-2020 04:29 PM

^^ my AMD 6570 still works to this day.

I ran it + 6 core bulldozer, with 1 cluster disabled, then clocked to the mun for a year or two when I first moved back to florida (cash was tight)

WannaBeOCer 01-05-2020 04:32 PM

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Probably going to announce the Radeon VII replacement. The Vega based Arcturus GPU firmware is in the latest 19.50 Linux driver.

maltamonk 01-05-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ozlay (Post 28267538)
If it comes in the same form factors. I would be interested. AMD needs some HDMI 2.0 low profile, single slot, passive options. An alternative to the low profile 1650 would be nice too. :)

Aren't the APU's closing in on the 1030? If so, there's no reason for a super low end dgpu. Maybe a lp 5500 non xt.

speed_demon 01-05-2020 05:52 PM

With dual channel high speed ram & a mild dGPU overclock they're more powerful than that even these days. The ram becomes an achilles heel though - So you need to account for that in the build.

keikei 01-06-2020 02:04 PM


EniGma1987 01-06-2020 02:29 PM

Yep, AMD just made a big what to do about their BRAND NEW 5600 LINE!!!


Ya no one cares. That applause level showed just what people thought of it all.

keikei 01-06-2020 02:31 PM

Welp, looks like the 4k card isnt ready yet...E3?

WannaBeOCer 01-06-2020 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keikei (Post 28269798)
Welp, looks like the 4k card isnt ready yet...E3?

Interesting the 4800U has a Vega GPU with 8 compute units and is 59% faster than the RX Vega 10 Mobile which also has 8 compute units? Guess it's now also using Vega II.

PriestOfSin 01-06-2020 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keikei (Post 28269798)
Welp, looks like the 4k card isnt ready yet...E3?

Yep, bummer. The quest continues.

EniGma1987 01-06-2020 02:54 PM

So in case anyone missed the keynote and doesnt want to watch it, the only thing of consequence that was announced was a new 3990X Threadripper 64 core for $3990 dollars.

Lexi is Dumb 01-06-2020 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EniGma1987 (Post 28269848)
So in case anyone missed the keynote and doesnt want to watch it, the only thing of consequence that was announced was a new 3990X Threadripper 64 core for $3990 dollars.

Only AMD could manage to disappoint people with an announcement like that too, all the talk about 1080p-1440p as if to deliberately omit the 4k card in the gpu section.. to then saying "but we can't quite leave it at that" at the end.. they were set up perfectly for a big GPU announcement.. and then its the 3990X thrown in seemingly at odds with what the rest of the keynote was about being Mobile and GPU focused.
Also odd that they took something they already announced would come in 2020 after TR3 launched and made it the "best for last" 'surprise' act in a keynote.

I guess I shouldnt be surprised or disappointed.. my gut reaction to the 500mm sq die rumours were that they wouldn't waste wafer allocation on something like that while their much smaller zen dies are so popular and with consoles coming up to worry about. This keynote cemented that for me. AMD clearly still has no intention of competing at the high end in GPUs.

Pedros 01-06-2020 03:24 PM

I really enjoyed the Laptop CPUs ...
Other than that ... kind of a "meh" keynote ...

Consumer Electronics Show ... let's show a professional part that costs as much as a top tier gaming rig ...

skupples 01-06-2020 03:42 PM

full o piss n' vinegar that hype train was.

confirmed, consoles coming before/same time as 2080ti slayers.

Lexi is Dumb 01-06-2020 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skupples (Post 28269944)
full o piss n' vinegar that hype train was.

confirmed, consoles coming before/same time as 2080ti slayers.

"2080ti slayers" good luck with that. More likely youll get a 3080 5% faster than the 2080ti for $800 at the end of the year and an AMD $500 2080ti competitor next year.

Ha-Nocri 01-06-2020 05:04 PM

I was waiting for AMD to be competitive with laptops and I think this is it. Will wait for reviews, but it seems there will be no reason for me to buy an intel laptop now.

Disappointed there was no mention of the big Navi.

ZealotKi11er 01-06-2020 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ha-Nocri (Post 28270064)
I was waiting for AMD to be competitive with laptops and I think this is it. Will wait for reviews, but it seems there will be no reason for me to buy an intel laptop now.

Disappointed there was no mention of the big Navi.

Why mention Big Navi? Its never a good thing to do months before release. You dont want a Vega in ur hand.

Buris 01-06-2020 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er (Post 28270080)
Why mention Big Navi? Its never a good thing to do months before release. You dont want a Vega in ur hand.

Nvidia usually preempts them, so it means more value to the consumer either way.

I was personally disappointed, but from a business point of view, AMD focusing on mobile is the right move. Just not a move I personally prefer.

ZealotKi11er 01-06-2020 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buris (Post 28270086)
Nvidia usually preempts them, so it means more value to the consumer either way.

I was personally disappointed, but from a business point of view, AMD focusing on mobile is the right move. Just not a move I personally prefer.

2020 just started. You got yo build up the hype. There is no reason for AMD to use all these great products to hype up every presentation they get. As they get closer to the middle of the year they will probably show GPUs and zen3. Also there is zen2 and rdna1 that need to sell still. 6 months old products.

mothergoose729 01-06-2020 06:15 PM

That juicy announcement of an announcement. Much news. Discuss.

Buris 01-06-2020 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er (Post 28270104)
2020 just started. You got yo build up the hype. There is no reason for AMD to use all these great products to hype up every presentation they get. As they get closer to the middle of the year they will probably show GPUs and zen3. Also there is zen2 and rdna1 that need to sell still. 6 months old products.

The problem with Big Navi is there's (most likely) no way it will compete with high-end RTX 30-series GPUs. AMD should have paper launched a Big Navi and taken the title temporarily if they wanted to boost sales of their other cards, specifically when the 5500 XT and 5600 XT seem immensely underwhelming.

skupples 01-06-2020 06:59 PM

pretty much :( it doesn't seem like they have plans of trying to catch up any time soon.

you over value my use of the word slayer. All I wanna see at this point is within 5-10% & priced accordingly.

I just gotta keep hanging onto my 2021 mindset. It's all poops & giggles until the consoles are out. Kinda seems like NV Will squeeze in 99% of 3x before the consoles, which is going to lead to people feeling burned. which should lead to some decent lulz.

sucks when your only hope for change is Intel.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buris (Post 28270174)
The problem with Big Navi is there's (most likely) no way it will compete with high-end RTX 30-series GPUs. AMD should have paper launched a Big Navi and taken the title temporarily if they wanted to boost sales of their other cards, specifically when the 5500 XT and 5600 XT seem immensely underwhelming.

it doesn't make much sense to me... does the looming console have an affect? They don't wanna blow themselves outta the water? The consoles will be the gateway into the bigger navi chips, n the big boy units will drop AFTER the consoles have released?

time's moving quicker. we'll be back to december in no time.

rluker5 01-06-2020 07:38 PM

Intel does seem to be pushing the change narrative. They're beefing up their cores, but in some measures AMD's chiplet strategy will still be unbeatable by this. Seems like Intel is going after some disorganized heterogeneous computing goal that could really come out with something good. Or maybe not. They have a lot of different types of chips and innovative ways to put them together. At the very least it is worth following for me.
It would be pretty nice to have a chip that can take some AMD brand PhysX made to only work on the relatively inefficient cpu processor type and fool it into thinking it is being done on a cpu when it is really being done on an igpu or some asic emib'd or foveros'd somewhere under the heat spreader. No reason to keep a parallel load locked to a serial processor.

I thought AMD was going after this when they started making apus.

skupples 01-06-2020 08:08 PM

i never did understand the difference between an APU and a CPU w. iGPU

i remember my ~bulldozer era AMD APUs syncing with pci-GPUs n stuff, where did all that go?

doom26464 01-06-2020 08:28 PM

CES never usually blows me away. Good for monitor and tv announcements but usually nothing tooooo exciting from AMD or Nvidia yet. Ill wait till closer till spring and rumours of bigger things will be boiling up.

skupples 01-06-2020 08:45 PM

what's the tech trade show in june?

or am I thinking of a con?

bed time

Aenra 01-06-2020 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skupples (Post 28270326)
or am I thinking of a con?

We don't have cons in the PC industry! How dare you! :P

ibb27 01-07-2020 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skupples (Post 28270326)
what's the tech trade show in june?

or am I thinking of a con?

At Computex (2-6 June) we will hear more about Zen 3 and Big Navi, next is E3 (9-11 June) but I expect consoles to be the focus of the show.

ToTheSun! 01-07-2020 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aenra (Post 28270358)
We don't have cons in the PC industry! How dare you! :P

The big con is Intel! WHO'S WITH ME????

#togetherstrong #hashtag

DNMock 01-07-2020 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skupples (Post 28270292)
i never did understand the difference between an APU and a CPU w. iGPU

i remember my ~bulldozer era AMD APUs syncing with pci-GPUs n stuff, where did all that go?

Definitely feels like for the last several years at least, Q2 is the magic season for GPU hype.

skupples 01-07-2020 07:50 AM

that's it, computex.

Hwgeek 01-07-2020 08:02 AM

So can you imagine 4800U in Surface Pro? it's a mind blowing to have such performance in a Tablet!

skupples 01-07-2020 08:03 AM

I still dream of surface pros that don't cook themselves to death. ;)

i also dream of surface pro's that don't require firmware updates that downclock the device to prevent further meltdowns.

rluker5 01-07-2020 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hwgeek (Post 28270852)
So can you imagine 4800U in Surface Pro? it's a mind blowing to have such performance in a Tablet!

Put them in a desktop and they will be AMD's #1 gaming cpu. I/O die is integrated again. If Zen3 does this+8 core ccx, latency will be better than Zen2 all around.

ibb27 01-07-2020 10:44 AM

And much more interesting talk (for me) about what lies ahead in 2020 for AMD:


AMD at CES 2020: Q&A with Dr. Lisa Su
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15344...ith-dr-lisa-su

lightsout 01-07-2020 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibb27 (Post 28271098)
And much more interesting talk (for me) about what lies ahead in 2020 for AMD:


AMD at CES 2020: Q&A with Dr. Lisa Su
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15344...ith-dr-lisa-su

What everyone cares about

Quote:

Gordon Ung, PC World: Do you think that AMD has to have a high-end competitor in the discrete graphics market?

LS: [laughs] I know those on Reddit want a high end Navi! You should expect that we will have a high-end Navi, and that it is important to have it. The discrete graphics market, especially at the high end, is very important to us. So you should expect that we will have a high-end Navi, although I don’t usually comment on unannounced products.

WannaBeOCer 01-07-2020 11:10 AM

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What everyone cares about

Quote:

Gordon Ung, PC World: Do you think that AMD has to have a high-end competitor in the discrete graphics market?

LS: [laughs] I know those on Reddit want a high end Navi! You should expect that we will have a high-end Navi, and that it is important to have it. The discrete graphics market, especially at the high end, is very important to us. So you should expect that we will have a high-end Navi, although I don’️t usually comment on unannounced products.

Not everyone cares about big Navi. I'm going to be switching to Intel or nVidia for my next video card. I think this is more exciting than big Navi. I'm hoping they finally release a single CCX 8 core.

Quote:

Zen 3

AnandTech: AMD’s products have been on a very regular 12-14 month cadence for the last three years. Should we expect to see Zen 3 this year? In previous CES presentations you’ve shared 12-month roadmaps, but this year you only spoke about Q1 and Q2. Would you like to comment on Zen 3 or what’s coming?

LS: You should expect that we’re going to be very aggressive with the CPU roadmap. We think Zen 2 is the best CPU core out there today, and we’re very proud of it. We’ve completed the family and Zen 3 is doing really well, we’re very pleased about it and you’ll hear more about it in 2020. Rather than ask me the question three times Ian [laughs], let me clear: you will see Zen 3 in 2020!

lightsout 01-07-2020 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer (Post 28271138)
Not everyone cares about big Navi. I'm going to be switching to Intel or nVidia for my next video card. I think this is more exciting than big Navi. I'm hoping they finally release a single CCX 8 core.



Was just going by much of the comments surrounding amd and CES the last couple days. Thought some folks would appreciate that comment.

An 8 core single ccx would be sweet.

WannaBeOCer 01-07-2020 04:47 PM

Why does the 5600 XT look like it might have better cooling than the 5700 XT?

https://www.amd.com/en/graphics/amd-...rx-5600-series

lightsout 01-07-2020 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer (Post 28271634)
Why does the 5600 XT look like it might have better cooling than the 5700 XT?

https://www.amd.com/en/graphics/amd-...rx-5600-series

Whoa, did AMD just silently release their first non-blower reference card? Hmmm, idk, could it just be a place holder generic image? Here is a shot of the slides from CES. Maybe there isn't a real reference card?

https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/202...d4107dd548.jpg
https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/202...e247f1f1fd.jpg

WannaBeOCer 01-07-2020 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightsout (Post 28271698)
Whoa, did AMD just silently release their first non-blower reference card? Hmmm, idk, could it just be a place holder generic image? Here is a shot of the slides from CES. Maybe there isn't a real reference card?

I think the first was the HD 7990 followed by the Radeon VII(Regarding fans)? At first I thought it was a place holder but that looks to realistic of a render to just be a place holder.

rluker5 01-07-2020 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lightsout (Post 28271698)
Whoa, did AMD just silently release their first non-blower reference card? Hmmm, idk, could it just be a place holder generic image? Here is a shot of the slides from CES. Maybe there isn't a real reference card?

https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/202...d4107dd548.jpg
https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/202...e247f1f1fd.jpg

Reminds me of a car I used to drive:

And my girlfriend said it looked to dated with the red and black for the 1990s.

lightsout 01-07-2020 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer (Post 28271708)
I think the first was the HD 7990 followed by the Radeon VII(Regarding fans)? At first I thought it was a place holder but that looks to realistic of a render to just be a place holder.

Ah yes you are correct, forgot about those two.
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Originally Posted by rluker5 (Post 28271726)
Reminds me of a car I used to drive:

And my girlfriend said it looked to dated with the red and black for the 1990s.

lol

ZealotKi11er 01-07-2020 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer (Post 28271634)
Why does the 5600 XT look like it might have better cooling than the 5700 XT?

https://www.amd.com/en/graphics/amd-...rx-5600-series

I don't think there are reference designs for 5600 but I could be wrong. I really want to see how badly this beats 1660 Ti. If those clk speeds are real the OC potential is huge.

WannaBeOCer 01-07-2020 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er (Post 28271820)
I don't think there are reference designs for 5600 but I could be wrong. I really want to see how badly this beats 1660 Ti. If those clk speeds are real the OC potential is huge.

It might be between 10-15% ahead of the 1660 Ti considering the 5700 is 19-24% faster than it. Probably not high considering it has the same amount of compute units as a RX 5700 with a single 8 pin.


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