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UltraMega 01-02-2020 01:50 PM

[Guru3d] AMD wants to increase performance per cycle by more than 7 percent annually
 
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Our colleagues from Anandtech interviewed AMD's Chief Technology Officer (CTO) Mark Papermaster. AMD wants to continue to bring new processors to the market in a 12 to 18-month cadence and thereby exceed the current industry standard of 7 percent annual IPC increase - converted to one and a half years, this would correspond to 10.7 percent.

"We have previously noticed that the industry is experiencing slow 7% annual growth in single-thread performance, and our goal is to outperform each generation of our products. With our latest products, we do better than that Industry cut off and industry expectations exceeded. "
Source: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/am...-annually.html

Sounds like a simple and solid mission statement from AMD for the next few years.

WannaBeOCer 01-02-2020 02:24 PM

Read the entire interview three days ago: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15268...oom-at-the-top

Glad both AMD and Intel are both focusing on a massive IPC increase with their next release.

Particle 01-02-2020 03:05 PM

Just to help frame reasonable expectations, keep in mind that 7% per annum works out to be literally a doubling every 10 years. That seems unrealistically aggressive over the long term.

m4fox90 01-02-2020 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Particle (Post 28263234)
Just to help frame reasonable expectations, keep in mind that 7% per annum works out to be literally a doubling every 10 years. That seems unrealistically aggressive over the long term.

Does it seem unrealistic, or are we all too conditioned to Intel's monopoly-enabled intentional stagnation of the market and the technology to consider what might be realistic in a different world?

aDyerSituation 01-02-2020 03:37 PM

Since I've joined this forum IPC has only increased by what, 25%? Long overdue for a meaningful bump.

We need a westmere>sandy bridge jump

ACleverName 01-02-2020 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=We need a westmere>sandy bridge jump[/QUOTE]

Those were the days of great jumps and head crabs :(

WannaBeOCer 01-02-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by m4fox90 (Post 28263274)
Does it seem unrealistic, or are we all too conditioned to Intel's monopoly-enabled intentional stagnation of the market and the technology to consider what might be realistic in a different world?

No, it doesn't sound unrealistic. Intel switched their focus to storage and power efficiency previously before Zen was released. Their new architecture we saw a 18% IPC increase over Skylake.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3031...fficiency.html

We also see their progress with power efficiency when comparing a 6700k at 4.2Ghz which uses around 124w and a 9900k at 4.2Ghz uses 95w.

UltraMega 01-02-2020 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Particle (Post 28263234)
Just to help frame reasonable expectations, keep in mind that 7% per annum works out to be literally a doubling every 10 years. That seems unrealistically aggressive over the long term.

It wasn't that long ago that we would see a 50% gain every 18 months. I don't think drawing that out to ten years is too unrealistic…

Liranan 01-02-2020 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aDyerSituation (Post 28263294)
Since I've joined this forum IPC has only increased by what, 25%? Long overdue for a meaningful bump.

We need a westmere>sandy bridge jump

That was nothing compared with the increase that we experienced when Intel went from Netburst to Core, it was akin to AMD going from Bulldozer to Zen.

Particle 01-02-2020 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by UltraMega (Post 28263452)
It wasn't that long ago that we would see a 50% gain every 18 months. I don't think drawing that out to ten years is too unrealistic…

You're going to have to source that. It didn't happen. Make sure that you understand we're talking about instructions per clock for central processors here.


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