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Defoler 01-08-2020 12:37 AM

[G3D] AMD Announces 64-core Ryzen Threadripper 3990X with 4.3 GHz Turbo at 3990 USD
 
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AMD just announced their Threadripper 3990X at 4.3 GHz Boost and 3990 USD. The processor will get 64-cores and thus 128-threads. The product will be available in a few week's time, February the 7th.
4000$ for 64 cores.
AMD are not taking prisoners when it comes to pricing, now that they have the higher core count lead.
Feels like when intel priced their top XE for almost 2000$ was not as bad as it looked :P

fragamemnon 01-08-2020 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Defoler (Post 28272136)
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4000$ for 64 cores.
AMD are not taking prisoners when it comes to pricing, now that they have the higher core count lead.
Feels like when intel priced their top XE for almost 2000$ was not as bad as it looked :P


Keeping at the $31.25 per thread, this isn't exactly poor value for a single socket beast, I think.

Defoler 01-08-2020 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fragamemnon (Post 28272158)
Keeping at the $31.25 per thread, this isn't exactly poor value for a single socket beast, I think.

That is true.
Though the 10980XE on that metrics is 27.75$ per thread (giving props to AMD forcing intel to reduce the price). AMD are keeping 31.25$ per thread for that series (3970x-3990x).

fragamemnon 01-08-2020 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Defoler (Post 28272384)
That is true.
Though the 10980XE on that metrics is 27.75$ per thread (giving props to AMD forcing intel to reduce the price). AMD are keeping 31.25$ per thread for that series (3970x-3990x).


Oh yes that is definitely so. And the market is getting healthier. I just wanted to point out that I still see it as good value and even better when compared to the 3970x (again, per thread) because it's still one CPU that fits into one socket. :yessir:

Imouto 01-08-2020 07:48 AM

If you need this CPU you are making money out of it and it is a steal compared to anything in its ballpark.

Ashura 01-08-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Defoler (Post 28272136)
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4000$ for 64 cores.
AMD are not taking prisoners when it comes to pricing, now that they have the higher core count lead.
Feels like when intel priced their top XE for almost 2000$ was not as bad as it looked :P

Isn't this the cheapest & fastest 32 Core CPU ever?

mothergoose729 01-08-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Defoler (Post 28272384)
That is true.
Though the 10980XE on that metrics is 27.75$ per thread (giving props to AMD forcing intel to reduce the price). AMD are keeping 31.25$ per thread for that series (3970x-3990x).

You have to factor in the cost of the platform too. Chasis, mainboard, power, ect. The density benefits definitely make cost of ownership overall cheaper.

Defoler 01-08-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashura (Post 28272528)
Isn't this the cheapest & fastest 32 Core CPU ever?

Well it is basically the only 32 core CPU available (or 64 for that matter).
Intel goes up to 28 cores (or 56 with their duel chip CPU).
So cheapest/fastest is a bit misleading considering it doesn't really have a competition right now.

AMD are gaining ground in core count because intel are stuck at 14nm++++++++++ while AMD have TSMC 7nm manufacturing.
It it will be true that intel are also going to use TSMC (or samsung), and next series will be based on 7nm, we might see a fight. Intel can still push mhz (which is still helping them in both desktops and enterprise), but that won't last long as manufacturing getting better while intel get stuck behind.

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Originally Posted by mothergoose729 (Post 28272642)
You have to factor in the cost of the platform too. Chasis, mainboard, power, ect. The density benefits definitely make cost of ownership overall cheaper.

Why? There are cheap 2066 motherboard as well as very expensive TR4 motherboards.
DDR4 is overall similar (both run 4 channels), and everything around them is the same.
Chasis (atx, eatx), power(many watts anyway), they will all end up the same.

JedixJarf 01-08-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Imouto (Post 28272484)
If you need this CPU you are making money out of it and it is a steal compared to anything in its ballpark.

Exactly. The only people that should be buying this is people that actually need it to make money, and if thats the case, now you have a single socket 64c monster with high clock speeds instead of a dual xeon system.

mothergoose729 01-08-2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Defoler (Post 28272896)
Why? There are cheap 2066 motherboard as well as very expensive TR4 motherboards.
DDR4 is overall similar (both run 4 channels), and everything around them is the same.
Chasis (atx, eatx), power(many watts anyway), they will all end up the same.


Let's say you have two nodes 3990x. That is 2 sockets per board, and two boards, for 4 CPUs and 512 total threads.

If you choose to buy the cheaper per core 3970x, than you need twice as many CPUs for roughly equivalent performance. That means 8 CPUs, 4 dual socket boards, and more rackmount space.

Moreover, twice as many 3970x boards consume about twice the power of half fewer 3990x boards. Electricity and cooling have associated costs as well.

You can do some of the same math with Intel's offerings.


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