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08-21-2019 09:04 PM
Reikoji
Quote: Originally Posted by nick name View Post
Why do you believe yourself to be a subject matter expert on so many different things? What are your credentials? Or are you just full of anecdotal evidence that you failed to actually comprehend?
I bet hes IT of 20 years
08-21-2019 08:31 PM
nick name
Quote: Originally Posted by Takla View Post
All commonly used real world programs that use avx2 run at least 10°c colder than what prime 95 achieves in less than 10 seconds of being started. (Although from a business standpoint I can totally see why silicon lottery uses the most stressing program, to cover themselves for legality reasons) Your high temps are probably due to leaving the boost on auto? Or maybe your water cooling is just not sufficient enough to transfer the heat away quickly enough (Silicon Lottery, for example, was using a mediocre (by comparison) 240mm All-in-One cooler which of course quickly hit the thermal threshold of 95°c)



Still salty about the fact that a $400 sound card is pure placebo I see. Some people find the truth simply too hard to accept I guess.
Why do you believe yourself to be a subject matter expert on so many different things? What are your credentials? Or are you just full of anecdotal evidence that you failed to actually comprehend?
08-21-2019 08:12 PM
Reikoji
Quote: Originally Posted by chakku View Post
Have you confirmed an actual performance boost? Recorded max clocks will increase when you limit voltage on the CPUs because of clock stretching.
For me its a performance loss.
08-21-2019 07:57 PM
Keith Myers
Quote: Originally Posted by oreonutz View Post
Oh, what do you mean Keith??? Do you mean that Silicon Lottery tests with Prime 95 AVX2 Because there are ACTUALLY Programs out there that require that level of Stability??? NO WAY!!!! I call this Post Misleading!!!!

Let me see if I can muster up my Temper Tantrum Now... LOL!

I kid I kid, I will shut up now.
Well for my SETI project I am currently running the MBv8_8.05r3345_avx_linux64 cpu app to crunch cpu tasks. Not too bad for temps but worse than the MBv8_8.22r3711_sse41_amd_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu app. I can keep that app under 80°C normally, more like 76-77° C. But it shaves 3 minutes off the crunch time of the cpu tasks compared to the SSE41 app. But faster crunching means the cpu is doing more work in a shorter time, so the energy usage has to go up. = more heat. But I really hammer the cpu with the MBv8_8.22r3712_avx2_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu app. That one spiked the temps to 95°C.

I just chuckle when I read posts that say so and so programs are an unrealistic test because no program runs that way continuously. Ha Ha ha LOL.
08-21-2019 07:16 PM
Takla
Quote: Originally Posted by Keith Myers View Post
Ha ha ha LOL. I guess all the distributed computing programs that run 24/7 aren't "real-world" programs. I can run the AVX or AVX2 programs for my science projects and the temps are insane even with custom water cooling.
All commonly used real world programs that use avx2 run at least 10°c colder than what prime 95 achieves in less than 10 seconds of being started. (Although from a business standpoint I can totally see why silicon lottery uses the most stressing program, to cover themselves for legality reasons) Your high temps are probably due to leaving the boost on auto? Or maybe your water cooling is just not sufficient enough to transfer the heat away quickly enough (Silicon Lottery, for example, was using a mediocre (by comparison) 240mm All-in-One cooler which of course quickly hit the thermal threshold of 95°c)

Quote: Originally Posted by oreonutz View Post
Oh, what do you mean Keith??? Do you mean that Silicon Lottery tests with Prime 95 AVX2 Because there are ACTUALLY Programs out there that require that level of Stability??? NO WAY!!!! I call this Post Misleading!!!!

Let me see if I can muster up my Temper Tantrum Now... LOL!

I kid I kid, I will shut up now.
Still salty about the fact that a $400 sound card is pure placebo I see. Some people find the truth simply too hard to accept I guess.
08-21-2019 03:38 PM
oreonutz
Quote: Originally Posted by Keith Myers View Post
Ha ha ha LOL. I guess all the distributed computing programs that run 24/7 aren't "real-world" programs. I can run the AVX or AVX2 programs for my science projects and the temps are insane even with custom water cooling.
Oh, what do you mean Keith??? Do you mean that Silicon Lottery tests with Prime 95 AVX2 Because there are ACTUALLY Programs out there that require that level of Stability??? NO WAY!!!! I call this Post Misleading!!!!

Let me see if I can muster up my Temper Tantrum Now... LOL!

I kid I kid, I will shut up now.
08-21-2019 03:05 PM
Keith Myers
Quote: Originally Posted by Takla View Post
So are you actually professionally producing any audio? If not, I don't see what your argument here is, other than some incredible mental gymnastic by you, to try and justify wasting hundreds of dollars.


I don't see anyone "mad" around here but you


I'm assuming you mean this? His comment was in fact misleading. He stated, and I quote "Only the "top 6% of 3900X" they tested can achieve "4.2GHz OC @ 1.250v"!" which is not true. These voltages and clocks only apply during prime95s avx2 load. No real world program with or without avx2 will actually reach these temps, which was the only thing holding them back from further increasing the voltages for a higher clock.
Ha ha ha LOL. I guess all the distributed computing programs that run 24/7 aren't "real-world" programs. I can run the AVX or AVX2 programs for my science projects and the temps are insane even with custom water cooling.
08-21-2019 03:03 PM
chakku
Quote: Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
Minus offset at least benefits boost behaviour:
Have you confirmed an actual performance boost? Recorded max clocks will increase when you limit voltage on the CPUs because of clock stretching.
08-21-2019 02:45 PM
Keith Myers This XSPC X4 Photon 170 is my goto pump/reservoir. $110 at Amazon.com
https://www.amazon.com/XSPC-Photon-R...s%2C205&sr=8-1

Good D5 pump with a fixed #4 pump setting. Don't need a variable speed as my opinion a pump should run at full speed all the time. Powered by a neat single sleeved SATA connection.
08-21-2019 01:09 PM
Reikoji
Quote: Originally Posted by oreonutz View Post
Call to Action! I don't know if anyone else has posted this yet. But we can definitely help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-G1Ukrg-Wk
Quote: Originally Posted by jfrob75 View Post
Here is another interesting video concerning Ryzen 3000 boosting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2SzF3IiMaE
Yea, I was pretty sure from the beginning that this was down to the Boards Bios and not the processor. I got mine doing 4.6 with the Manual OC workaround so its pretty obvious the board could be doing by itself like its supposed to had the Bios/Agesa be on top of it.
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