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post #3491 of 3497 (permalink) Old 07-13-2019, 10:54 PM
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Who is buildzoid?
Is he a qualified EEE engineer to give his long view?
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Who is buildzoid?
Is he a qualified EEE engineer to give his long view?
Does he need to be? Because he very obviously knows his stuff.

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Well yes you do need a certain eee qualifications imo. Designing Stuffs like these are more complicated than we think.
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Well yes you do need a certain eee qualifications imo. Designing Stuffs like these are more complicated than we think.
No degree or PHD just a enthusiast that wants to learn more and is interested in the stuff. He usually knows enough to be worth your time but he isn't a engineer to know how to build the stuff.
Just enough to be useful for his OC addiction and do modifications for LN2 and such.

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Just a heads up I made a different order as parts where never getting dispatched from the place I made my order from for the ASUS PRO WS X570-ACE & Ryzen 7 3800X. They never were getting the stuff to deliver.

I took from a new place that had parts arrive in stock today, but I went a little overboard on the motherboard now. Went with what I had eyed from the beginning but was appalled at the price when it was revealed. Getting the Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME instead but same cpu 3800X.
Over spec but that board will be so much easier to work with in the case I have in the end and it was a little risk with the ASUS how well it would be supported. Info still not updated on-site etc.

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Asus x470 Crosshair VII Hero is cheaper for me ($330) compared x570 Gigabyte Aorus Pro ($325) & Ultra ($370), x570 Msi Gaming Pro Carbon ($380), x570 Asus ROG Strix - E ($410). The crosshair seems better than all these x570 boards and the next better upgrade seems to be Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master ($445) but also $115 costlier.


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X570 has PCIE 4.0 support and also NvMe support for over PCIE 2.0 x4 on the second NvMe drive without cutting into your GPU PCIE lanes.


Anyway http://blog.livedoor.jp/wisteriear/a...075116296.html

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With the MSI MEG X570 ACE, even if the VRM power supply continues to be loaded for a long time with 200 W class CPU power consumption, the Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 9 3950 X can be operated at room temperature with passive air cooling.
Thermal image shows ~75°C with AIO (Corsair H150i PRO RGB and 3x NF-A12x25 fans)

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MSI X470 GAMING equipped with the previous generation X470 chipset using Ryzen 7 2700X's entire core of 4.2 GHz that generates the same CPU power consumption when Ryzen 9 3900X is clocked to the limit with XFR When verifying PRO CARBON, the VRM power supply temperature was slightly over 100 degrees.
The high quality of the VRM power supply circuit and the high cooling performance of the VRM power supply cooler of "MSI MEG X570 ACE", which is designed to correspond to Ryzen 9 series and belongs to the company's high-end brand "MEG" .
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X470 Gaming Pro Carbon shows 116°C using the same AIO setup

Weight: 1230g for MSI ace , 1023g for entire X470 Gaming Pro Carbon


Another review with R9 3900X:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14603...board-review/9


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Aorus Pro WIFI R9 3900X , 4.3GHz = 62°C
--- NvMe heatsink drops 20°C on SSDs

Spoiler!



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When rendering in Blender, the CPU consumption was about 81 Watts, the SOC takes four Watts and the CPU temperature rose to 81 ° C, the fan on the heatsink rotated to a round 3000 rpm, even in the closed cabinet, but at least strangely it does not whine and does not produce strange sounds, which is positive. The feed cascade was quite idle, the major portion of the VRM reported 55 ° C, and the cooler surface temperature was about 43 ° C, the second portion of the VRM where the VCore phases were left, and the two VSOCs heated to 49 ° C. Processor voltage was held around 1.356V steadily.

Worse in the AVX2 load, here the processor warmed to high 90 ° C, the power cascade melted to 59 ° C and 50 ° C, but mainly the processor, the CPU consumed up to 101 Watts, but sometimes declines to 75-90 Watts. The core voltage was about 1,344-1,350V.
X370 Fatality K4 had the IR35201 PWM + 8x sinopower high/low side fets
Testing was with R7 3700X

https://diit.cz/clanek/test-asrock-f...ecne-hodnoceni


TUF X570
R7 3700X stock = 48°C
48 ºC
https://www.profesionalreview.com/20...0-plus-review/


Aorus ITX 50°C with R9 3900X

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https://nl.hardware.info/artikel/941...-met-een-3900x


PCB temp backside:
Aorus Xtreme = 48.3°C (50.1°C front)

MSI Godlike = 54.1°C (54.2°C front)

Aorus Master = 54.4°C (56.9°C front)

Crosshair VIII Formula = 56.8C°C (57.3°C front)

X570-E STRIX = 58°C (59.5°C front)

Crosshair VIII Hero = 58.2°C (58.9°C front)

Aorus Pro = 61.4°C (63.8°C front)

X570 Taichi = 61.4°C (62°C front)

Aorus Ultra = 61.8°C (65.5°C front)

X570 Ace= 63.5°C (66.1°C front)

Prime X570-Pro = 63.7°C (66.1°C front)

Aorus Elite = 64°C (66°C front)

TUF PLUS = 65.4°C (66.1°C front)

X570I (ITX) = 69.6°C (72.2°C front)

X570 Gaming X = 92.2°C (90.3°C front)

B450M Steel Legend = 103°C (106°C front)

X470 Ultra Gaming = 114°C (106°C front)

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