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1080p for gaming... Why?

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I see people over and over recommending 1920x1080 monitors for gaming in place of or to replace 1680x1050 monitors. Why is this? If my math is correct, the image quality will be just about the same on a 1050 vs a 1080 monitor, because the vertical resolution is almost the same.

I would think that a 1080 monitor might be less desirable for gaming, because it makes your video card draw 240 extra scan lines horizontally while not increasings you image quality, it will cost you in performance.

Am I crazy? Or are there just a lot of confused OCN'ers?

(Not here to slam 1080 monitors or those who have them, just don't understand why they would be desirable for some one considering a purchase over a 1920v1200 etc)
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1920x1080 is higher resolution...
Wider FOV and slightly better pixel density on larger screens come to mind.
hmm... could be that to some 1080P just sounds good, or maybe people recommend it so that the other person can watch 1080P movies. 1080P monitors are also becoming a lot more common and the prices are going down on them. Personally if I was going to splash on a decent monitor I would grab a 1920*1200.
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I see people over and over recommending 1920x1080 monitors for gaming in place of or to replace 1680x1050 monitors. Why is this? If my math is correct, the image quality will be just about the same on a 1050 vs a 1080 monitor, because the vertical resolution is almost the same.

I would think that a 1080 monitor might be less desirable for gaming, because it makes your video card draw 240 extra scan lines horizontally while not increasings you image quality, it will cost you in performance.

Am I crazy? Or are there just a lot of confused OCN'ers?

(Not here to slam 1080 monitors or those who have them, just don't understand why they would be desirable for some one considering a purchase over a 1920v1200 etc)

1920*1200 = 2304000 pixels
1920*1080 = 2073600 pixels
1680*1050 = 1764000 pixels

That is ~15% more pixels with the 1080p resolution!

That is ~24% more picels with the 1200p resolution!

16:10 monitors are currently being phased out though for 16:9 monitors, but 1200p will offer ~230k more pixels compared to 1080p, and ~ 540k pixels more than 1050(p?)
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Originally Posted by DesertRat
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Wider FOV and slightly better pixel density on larger screens come to mind.

I've heard, though I may be mistaken, that many games lob off the top and bottom of the screen for 16:9 from 16:10 mode.
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maybe they want a bigger monitor?

Size is a big thing for alot of people. (no rude jokes)
More pixels More Detail(Which than leads to seeing zig zag lines which leads to wanting High AA which Needs More powerful card.
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1920*1080 = 2073600 pixels
1680*1050 = 1764000 pixels

That is 15% more pixels with the 1080p resolution!

Yeah but it's only in width, so it should not change the image quality, right? Is there something here I am missing? I know you get a bit wider screen with a 16:9, but because the vertical resolution is the same, the image looks the same, save maybe wider?

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maybe they want a bigger monitor?

Size is a big thing for alot of people. (no rude jokes)

I get you. But then it would make sense to go 1920x1200. Basically I would think if you wanted a big monitor, go for that, as it would look much much better. 1920x1080 shouldn't look better than 1680x1050. At least not significantly?
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just don't understand why they would be desirable for some one considering a purchase over a 1920v1200 etc)

This is what I want to know, too. Why is having 230,400 fewer vertical pixels considered a good thing for any application besides high-def movies and/or TV?
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This is what I want to know, too. Why is having 230,400 fewer vertical pixels considered a good thing for any application besides high-def movies and/or TV?


Sharper image as the image is now being displayed over more pixels?

Having less pixels on the screen requires less resources at a cost of quality, while more pixels require more resources to display at the cost of performance.
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maybe they want a bigger monitor?

Size is a big thing for alot of people. (no rude jokes)

that's what she said

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I don't think you understand.... with higher resolution your cramming more pixels into the same space- the actual physical size of the pixels is smaller, allowing you to get better detail for the same amount of real estate on the screen. It has nothing to do with screen size, it's how much picture detail you get within that screen size.
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This is what I want to know, too. Why is having 230,400 fewer vertical pixels considered a good thing for any application besides high-def movies and/or TV?


I don't think that people with the actual money to spend on a 1920x1200 would ever pick a 1080p over the 1200.

But the fact of the matter is, 1200 monitor are often double the price of the 1080p counterpart. Is twice the price worth those vertical pixels? That is something only a individual can decide. I personally went with the 1080p, and I am very pleased with it.
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Well while watching a movie (on my TV) or looking at a still image say thru photoshop I do not have to worry as much if my GPU can run it or not. I doubt there are many who can run 1920x1200 on Crysis or the like, and if they can the system is so costly I don't think a monitor price plays a big part.

You need to find content that has actually been recorded in 1080p, which I do not think much has been or any really at all. Most of it is going to be upconverted which then is using my TV or DVD player processor to do this (this is a bad thing). But I am getting of the subject of gaming.

I think they are looking for a uniformity of a aspect ratio, since a lot of people are converting their digital lives to one set area. While in the past we had specific components to do this for us. Look how Playstation is marketing their system to do everything not just gaming. Look at how Microsoft is adding more lifestyle features to my Xbox, hardly any of it is actually for gaming.

Something to also consider on this type of resolution and what size display you will be in front of. How close should you even be sitting to a display of that size? I would hope at this price point someone would have it calibrated properly for that sitting area. When I used my 32in LCD as my computer monitor brightness was very very low to help my eyes focus. But on the flipside of things sitting that close will also show a lot of irregularities or the "interlace" effect, so progessive montiors will show less irregularities.

This is just a man rambling.

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It has nothing to do with screen size, it's how much picture detail you get within that screen size.
Exactly, and this completely depends on the panel underneath. If you use a TN panel oriented toward gaming, don't expect it to have a sharp, color-accurate image. If you use an S-PVA monitor, or (if you have the gift of money) an H-IPS monitor, you're going to get VERY sharp and accurate images at an unnoticable loss in gaming performance; that is, unless you're using an older Chi Mei Optoelectronics MVA (or a variant thereof; AU Optoelectronics will have AMVA5 panels out next year, per the news I posted some time ago; these new panels should be even better than PVA), which bottom out around 16ms; even this is unnoticable to all but the sharpest FPS-tuned retinas.

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I don't think that people with the actual money to spend on a 1920x1200 would ever pick a 1080p over the 1200.

But the fact of the matter is, 1200 monitor are often double the price of the 1080p counterpart. Is twice the price worth those vertical pixels? That is something only a individual can decide. I personally went with the 1080p, and I am very pleased with it.
Eloquently put, I agree. But if you can cover the premium, why deny higher quality and more pixels?
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Originally Posted by xxicrimsonixx View Post
Sharper image as the image is now being displayed over more pixels?

Having less pixels on the screen requires less resources at a cost of quality, while more pixels require more resources to display at the cost of performance.
But you are only getting more pixels in width. It's like saying I am getting taller when I am in fact just getting fatter. Right?
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Originally Posted by ELmo1989 View Post
More pixels More Detail(Which than leads to seeing zig zag lines which leads to wanting High AA which Needs More powerful card.
Actually, the higher the resolution, the less need there is for AA. There is already more pixels per square-inch if you compared 1680x1050 and 1920x1080, each on 22" monitors (the standard pretty much nowadays).
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Its simple really...

24" 1920x1200 monitor : $300+
23.5" 1920x1080 monitor: <$200

They are pretty much the exact same size too.
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