[killnine]

Would an 1900xtx be bottlenecked with my 3.6Ghz prescott at the high resolutions I play at? My native res is 1600x1200 and I enjoy playing at that if possible. I was planning on waiting till the next round of cards but might pick one of these up (probably a 1900xt and OC to XTX) if the next gen's would not be out for a long long while.

 

[claymanhb]

LOL-that graphics card will bottleneck anything out there. Bottlenecks aren't a bad thing though. Your 3.6 should be able to handle it

 

[killnine]

Alright, sweet. Dunno if I should wait till the Dx10 cards come out next year though, just cuz I can play BF2 at native res with about 50fps no problem now....I mean, if it aint broke.....

 

[claymanhb]

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Originally Posted by killnine Alright, sweet. Dunno if I should wait till the Dx10 cards come out next year though, just cuz I can play BF2 at native res with about 50fps no problem now....I mean, if it aint broke.....

Exactly what I'm doing.

They should be out this fall around the release of vista. The features they will have will stomp the current dx9 cards.

 

[sctheluna]

Don't worry about it if you want it get it otherwise wait for the next gens.

 

[masterwong]

Ther are only a hand ful of chips better than the 3.6 pressy not including dual core. So unless you get like the amd fx or some thing you'll be alright.

 

[Ste]

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Originally Posted by killnine Would an 1900xtx be bottlenecked with my 3.6Ghz prescott at the high resolutions I play at? My native res is 1600x1200 and I enjoy playing at that if possible. I was planning on waiting till the next round of cards but might pick one of these up (probably a 1900xt and OC to XTX) if the next gen's would not be out for a long long while.

I presume we're talking about games rather than benchmarks here? If so, no the GFX would be the bottleneck at these resolutions and not the CPU. That setup should get excellent performance.

 

[killnine]

Yeah, I am talking about games. and its probably going to determine on whether or not I get another job. If I do, Ill sell my X800XT and put what I make towards a new graphics card, if not, Ill just chill. My friends still use their 9800pros so I figure Im still alright.

2 jobs in college isn't all fun and games though, probably wouldnt even have time to PLAY my x1900xt!

 

[Marshall82]

Might I suggest if you want an x1900 series get the x1900xt not the xtx. Its pointless paying and extra $100 for someting you can do with a free download of ATI Tool.

 

[iker0]

Asking about bottlenecks with current CPU's is pointless, as all the current cpus have enough power for anygame engine, the only time a cpu could possibly create a bottleneck is if it wasnt upto the requirments of the game but the gfx card was, as the cpu would be able to keep up at that point.
this is all IMO

 

[killnine]

*shrug* but I think there is a law of deminishing returns as far as GPU/CPUs go. If you have a barton, (assuming there was a PCIe board that an AXP would work on) you might as well just get a 6800 because its never going to be able to process the info a x1900xtx is going to wanna throw through it. I mean, having the x1900xtx would work better than the 6800 but again, diminishing returns....

 

[iker0]

that is a good look at it with the deminishing returns, but has no real relevence to my post as i said there is no game engine that will really need any more cpu power then the 3.6 will give thus not really creating a bottleneck in current games, you are quite right though.

 

[Ice-Cold]

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Originally Posted by Marshall82 Might I suggest if you want an x1900 series get the x1900xt not the xtx. Its pointless paying and extra $100 for someting you can do with a free download of ATI Tool.

a modded card will never have the full potential of the card... I saw it with an x800 GTO² flashed to a x850 XT PE and it had a 300 - 400 point difference with the same hardware. IS this true ?

 

[Ste]

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Originally Posted by Ice-Cold a modded card will never have the full potential of the card... I saw it with an x800 GTO² flashed to a x850 XT PE and it had a 300 - 400 point difference with the same hardware. IS this true ?

The XT and the XTX are different in other ways apart from clock speed. The XTX can overlock quite a bit higher than the XT, in general, at lower voltages.

 

[Marshall82]

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Originally Posted by Ste The XT and the XTX are different in other ways apart from clock speed. The XTX can overlock quite a bit higher than the XT, in general, at lower voltages.

Where did you read that, most reviews I read never mentioned anything like that. And some said the opposite.

 

[Ste]

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Originally Posted by Marshall82 Where did you read that, most reviews I read never mentioned anything like that. And some said the opposite.

I've not really read it anywhere. Just comparing the overclocking results of the cards on different forums and to my own overclock as well. The XTX cards seem to be able to reach higher clock speeds at lower voltages.
It makes sense though, the XTX would most likely have the best GPUs and the XTs have the speed binned ones that didn't make the XTX version.

 

[M Diddy]

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Originally Posted by Marshall82 Where did you read that, most reviews I read never mentioned anything like that. And some said the opposite.

Come over the OCForums and take a look in the ATI sections... The XTX has no problem OCing while people are stuggling to get the XT above 800 mem....

 

[sccr64472]

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Originally Posted by Marshall82 Where did you read that, most reviews I read never mentioned anything like that. And some said the opposite.

They also use different memory.

 

[Ste]

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Originally Posted by sccr64472 They also use different memory.

Kind of true.

The XTX has a guaranteed 1.1ns ram whereas the XT is guaranteed 1.2ns. However, the first batch of XTs all seem to have come with 1.1ns. As SCCR pointed out though, no-one knows if this will continue. I suspect later batches will revert back to 1.2ns, as originally planned.