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Hi, it's time to put my 2004 HP Pentium4 out to pasture.

Below is what I have narrowed it down to; I expect I have 'over kill' or 'miss spent' moola, so please suggest, agree or SLAM me with constructive criticism freely. Before you do please note I was considering a $2200 pre built donkey (so I have learned) and yeah I do have a sense of humor
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Do I need an upgrade? Well yeah. I have no Mrs and kids so why not
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Do I really need this upgrade? If I had the capacity, yes I want to start gaming...(If I had a V8 not a 4WD Feroza; I would do burn outs too).

I've been researching allot (I'm a noob) and am mindful that if I need 'more' or 'faster' I can add down the track i.e. SLI/RAM; but I don't intend on upgrading in a hurry. If I get 4+ years out of the majority of this PC then I'm happy. If I get hooked on 3D gaming and it adds $$$ then fine as long as I'm enjoying it
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Some people buy new motor bikes each year.

Build $AU (online in Aus)
CPU- Intel Core i7 950 $319.00

HSU- Noctua NH-D14 CPU Cooler $108.00

GPU x1- EVGA GF GTX 570 1280MB;
Model 012-P3-1572-KR. 797MHz and 3900MHz $469.00
or (1570-KR. 732MHz and 3800MHz - $439.00 save $30).

MOBO- Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 Rev2 $379.00
or (UD5 @ $315 save $64, or UD3 @ $229 save $150).

RAM;
Corsair CMP6GX3M3A1600C7 6GB DDR3 $199+fan $39 $238.00
PC3-12800 (1600MHz) XMS, Ultimate Dominator
+ DHX, 7-8-7-20 + Corsair Dominator Airflow 2 Fan.
or (Mushkin 998826 Ridgeback 6GB DDR3
PC3-12800 (1600MHz), DIMMs, 6-8-6-24 @ $234.00).

SSD- OCZ Vertex 2 120GB E Series SSD 2.5' $269.00
or (3.5' @ $249 not available @ this store and yes won't fit lappy later on).

HDD- Samsung STORY USB 3.0 2TB External Drive $139.00

Case- CoolerMaster HAF X Case $239.00

PSU- Corsair HX-850 Power Supply $222.00
or (Corsair TX-750 Power Supply save $147).

OS- Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM $119.00

Total $2501.00AU

*(Don't need Blu-Ray burner, mouse, KB, sound card or monitor).
Down grades ? - GPU save $30, MOBO save $64 or $150, PSU save $75; so potentially a $255 price drop.

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"why a 950?" I guess cost more than anything. If I get serious and hooked I can see myself wanting better; but I can't justify it atm. Although, what's another couple of days work to get the toy of choice
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"why a 950?" I guess cost more than anything. If I get serious and hooked I can see myself wanting better; but I can't justify it atm. Although, what's another couple of days work to get the toy of choice
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Since your only going 950 until you can justify your addiction... Why not just go with an EVGA GTX 470 for starters also. You can upgrade later when the GTX 570's go on sale or have a decent rebate. Thats my plans.

I would also look into a cheaper HSF for your 950.
 

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stick with a lot of what you have, although i would recommend getting a Sandy Bridge CPU, the i7 2600K is just 40 more than the 950 you have listed and faster with more longevity. The mobo will be a bit more as well. The 570 is a good choice, faster than a 480 and you arent spending an arm and a leg for one. If you can shell out a little more money for an SSD i would have you get the Crucial C300 128GB model. Its the best SSD out there right now that isnt just completely ridiculous.

Get the 570 for $439, you can overclock it yourself if you want and save some money. The software is free to do it and it can be a fun experience to overclock anything really
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heatsink- Good choice, it is what i use and i love it, looks pretty badass in the case you have, which is also the same i have
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For the case though you might want to think about buying a few extra fans so that you take full advantage of the case's cooling, especially if you plan to overclock. So get another 200mm fan for the top and get a 120mm for the GPU duct that comes with the case, it really helps about 5C for me on a HOT day
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mobo- honestly i do not think you need the UD7 unless you want to brag about the cool mobo that you own. The GA-X58A-UD3R is what i have and i love it, it got me to 4.2GHz on air on an i7 920 and i am sure that this mobo will take you wherever you want to go with overclocking with air cooling. The higher levels of this board are more for some seriously extreme overclocks and for benchmarking since a better mobo gives MAYBE 1FPS more than one that isnt so great.

RAM- i love OCZ RAM but others around here really hate them, corsair makes some very nice RAM also. I would recommend saving the money on the RAM and get the XMS RAM sticks from Corsair if you still want Corsair RAM, they are the same stick with a smaller heatsink so it will fit under your D-14 (the dominators will not). If you really want performance though imo the OCZ RAM is the best, 1600MHz and CAS latency of 6, that is very very fast for DDR3 RAM that doesnt cost $100 a gig. These also have a normal heatsink that doesnt extend past the top of the RAM stick. RAM does not heat up much at all so you really dont need to worry about heatsinks too much, they are mostly for looks. I think it is $200 for a 6GB pack of that exact speed for the OCZ RAM i mentioned earlier and that is in my sig...

HDD- since you are using a good size SSD for the OS and your Apps, i would say that for this you should pick the size you want, then the brand (i recommend Seagate or Western Digital heavily) to make sure it works well and has a decent warranty, then just pick the cheapest one. You dont need a fast HDD since you would just be using it for data storage.

PSU- spend a little extra when it comes to these, always. Not for the extra wattage, but a good PSU that does not have a lot of volt flutuations will help your computer last longer, your overclocks be more stable, and it will better protect your computer from a sudden change in power availability like if a fuse gets blown of a small level power surge goes through your house. A cheap one would fry and fry other expensive parts with it, a good one (Corsair make the best imo) will break and save most other parts, if not then Corsair has a great warranty that if the PSU blows for no reason and breaks something else in the computer they will replace all the parts for you so long as it was not caused by improperly protected computer from a large power surge.

OS- keep the 64bit, need it for extra RAM, i am sure you know this already, just throwing it out there
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and there you go, sorry for all the text, but i am feeling pretty thorough today.
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also, about the CPU, if you go to a Sandy Bridge then you will have to use dual channel ram too. That means either 2GB, 4GB, or 8GB packs and triple channel is ever so slightly faster. Your call on that one. I would stick with the 950 just because its a very good CPU anyways and is considered "high end" the sandy bride CPU are newer, but they are considered the middle-ground for the new CPUs.
 

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Since your only going 950 until you can justify your addiction... Why not just go with an EVGA GTX 470 for starters also. You can upgrade later when the GTX 570's go on sale or have a decent rebate. Thats my plans.

I would also look into a cheaper HSF for your 950.
This is just horrible advice. If you want a 570 now, buying a 470 now and waiting "for the price to come down" on a 570 is ******ed. You have no guarantee that the difference between the resell value and initial cost of your card will be less than any decline in price that 570 may or may not experience. I facepalmed so hard when I read this that I have a headache now.

*Edit to contribute: I would advise going with Sandy Bridge over LGA1366 unless you absolutely require 1) triple-channel memory; 2) >8x/8x 2-way SLI.
 

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i7 950s a great processor
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I Went from a low grade AMD quad core to the i7 and I was completely blown away. Ill never go back. Also, IMHO i'd go with the mushkins. Great brand, great RAM. I have the 8-8-8-24 version and there is a ton of OC room (at least thats what i've found) so you might want to go with those. They're also about a hundred US dollars cheaper, not sure how thats correlated into Australian money, than the mushkin RAM that you have in the OP. Either one of the power supplies would work, i'd go with the more powerful one but thats just me. 570 is a great card and you also have room to SLI in the future if you wish.
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Why are we still talking about 'First Generation i7'?

Second gen is here, people! Sandy Bridge makes bean paste out of 950.
 

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This is just horrible advice. If you want a 570 now, buying a 470 now and waiting "for the price to come down" on a 570 is ******ed. You have no guarantee that the difference between the resell value and initial cost of your card will be less than any decline in price that 570 may or may not experience. I facepalmed so hard when I read this that I have a headache now.

*Edit to contribute: I would advise going with Sandy Bridge over LGA1366 unless you absolutely require 1) triple-channel memory; 2) >8x/8x 2-way SLI.
You can facepalm your self all you want. I never said anything about re-selling. For one I am a folder so re-selling the card to me is out of the question. Why would one need to end up forking out a $150 extra for the GTX 570 if he never takes off with gaming? Persoanlly I see that as a waste. Plus, once I pick up my 570 the 470 will make a great overkill PhsycX card.

I really dont understand why your panties are in a wad. He asked for suggestions and we are all giving him them. So take some migrane medicine and go take a nap.
 

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stick with a lot of what you have, although i would recommend getting a Sandy Bridge CPU, the i7 2600K is just 40 more than the 950 you have listed and faster with more longevity.
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Why are we still talking about 'First Generation i7'?

Second gen is here, people! Sandy Bridge makes bean paste out of 950.
Thank you all for the wake up slap. Once I started looking down the i7-2600k path I understand why this is most likely the way to go...for me that is...although I am a bit apprehensive since I did get caught up reading the debates most of the early hours of yesterday regarding Ivy Bridge and the future releases of the 1356 (triple channel) sockets. I'd hate to get the i7-2600k only find it is 3rd rate within 6 months or worse.

But in all honesty, I don't see how I could fully use or need to totally wring the neck of the i7-2600k with a decent MOBO (now where did I put that Asus Maximus 4 Extreme) in the near future anyway. By the time I'm obsessed with performance for the sake of performance I should have the full picture and know enough to make my own informed judgments for future upgrades or total rethink.

Thank you all for the input. I will sit in the shadows and read read & read some more.

Maybe soon (when Intel release Ivy Bridge 6 or 8 core) I could buy a 2nd hand rig like Track's and save my head space and $$$
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