$200ish-300 US best camera IYHO

Wow, its under $200 here for the basic camera... more stuff more money
http://www.ontimedigital.com/product...FR7yDAodC1Ifqg

Review from the UK
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08...asonicfz28.asp

More poking arround... Canon 400D XTI

CANON EOS XTIB ALL AROUND PACKAGE $279 w/free shipping.

• Vidpro 52" Tripod with 3-Way Quick Release
• New! 28-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Auto Focus Lens
• 1GB Compact Flash Card
• High Speed Compact Flash Card Reader
• Courier CR-225 Medium Digital Camera Carrying Case
• Universal Digital Camera Screen Protector
• 3 Piece Lens and Camera Cleaning Kit
• Digicom Video Hard Case Pro Series DC-C81
• Floor Standing Monopod
• Introduction to your camera on dvd
• Memory Card Carrying Case
• Canon EOS 400D Digital Rebel XTi 10.1 Megapixel DSLR Digital Camera Body (Black)

Or the
CANON EOS XTIB VALUE PACKAGE W/ CANON 18-55mm & 55-200mm Plus Extra
With the two lenses for $339 w/free shipping.

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The XTi is a great camera, but I wouldn't go with these "value packages," because besides the camera itself, the rest is junk. That 28-200mm lens is rather old and of low quality, and so are the other two lenses in other setup.

Where are these packages sold at? There are a lot of bait 'n' switch camera resellers out there that scam people by drawing them in with unbelievably low prices.

My advice would be to get an XTi body only and get the updated Canon EF-S 18-55mm IS. You would probably spend in the less than $500 for a setup like that.

Canon XTi body - $359
Canon EF-S18-55mm IS - $129

These are both used, but they're from B&H, who is very trusted for used gear (they have their own rating system for condition, both these are 9/10).

I think if you got one those eBay value packages you will regret it. Best to get decent gear to start if you truly want to get into a DSLR.

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Really not possible if you want anything decent from a DSLR. That's only point I'm trying to make. It's very feasible for a point 'n' shoot however.

CANON EOS XTIB VALUE PACKAGE W/ CANON 18-55mm & 55-200mm Plus Extra
With the two lenses for $339 w/free shipping.
http://www.slrgenius.com/products.asp?product_id=10174

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• Canon EOS 400D Digital Rebel XTi 10.1 Megapixel DSLR Digital Camera Body (Black)
• New!!!! 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 Standard Zoom Auto Focus Lens For Canon
• New !!!! 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 EF II Lens For Canon
• 1GB Compact Flash Card
• High Speed Compact Flash Card Reader
• Vidpro 52" Tripod with 3-Way Quick Release
• Courier CR-225 Medium Digital Camera Carrying Case
• 3 Piece Lens and Camera Cleaning Kit
• Digicom Video Hard Case Pro Series DC-C81
• Universal Digital Camera Screen Protector
• Floor Standing Monopod
• Introduction to your camera on dvd

the base model @ $249

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• Canon EOS 400D Digital Rebel XTi 10.1 Megapixel DSLR Digital Camera Body (Black)
• New!!!! 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 Standard Zoom Auto Focus Lens For Canon
• 1GB Compact Flash Card
• High Speed Compact Flash Card Reader
• Vidpro 52" Tripod with 3-Way Quick Release
• Universal Digital Camera Screen Protector
• 3 Piece Lens and Camera Cleaning Kit
• Courier CR-225 Medium Digital Camera Carrying Case
• Memory Card Carrying Case
• Introduction to your camera on dvd
• Digicom Video Hard Case Pro Series DC-C81
• Floor Standing Monopod

So, is this to good to be true or did I stumble on something

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Nope, there new.

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Like you never started out with a lower budget and spent more

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CAVEAT EMPTOR:
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Closeout_Genius

This is definitely a bait 'n' switch company Duke. They rip people off to the point where no one will buy from them, then they register a new domain name and start the process over. When you order the camera, they'll make you call to "confirm your order" but what they'll do is try to make you pay extra for items that are supposed to be included like the battery or carrying strap, and if you don't do that, they hang up and cancel your order. If you get your order placed, companies like these will take weeks to ship and when you get your camera, you find out that it's used or grey market.

Always check resellers at www.resellerratings.com

You can trust the resellers from any given at this site's shopping widget:
http://dcresource.pricegrabber.com/s...php/page_id=48

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I owe you big time on this one!
I usuall check www.resellerratings.com but I dropped the ball on this one

So what to look for next for some thing half way decent for about $300 Is there such a camera?

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No problem, these kinds of companies are especially abundant in the camera market.

But for your budget, there are some good p&s cameras out there, to name a few: Panasonic TZ5, Fujifilm F100fd, Canon PowerShot SX10 IS, Canon PowerShot SD1100 IS, Canon SD880 IS

And slightly above $300 there's the Panasonic LX3 (one of the best p&s cameras out there), Canon G9, Canon G10

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Duke im telling you right now "BUY IT" Or im going to buy them all!

Normal Price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...nic%20DMCFZ28K

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You won't if you read back to gonetommrow's reply!

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ya when i clicked it i searched it up on realraters and got the same thing, they have a worse rating then broadwayphoto

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Yeah, I once Broadway Photo's user reviews for entertainment. There are some seriously pissed off reviewers.

i was just about to post that reseller ratings thing

its really hard to find cheap slr's under $400. You can get a nikon D40x from buy.com for $420($500 at amazon)

or you could get a nikon D40 from amazon for $412 which is what i got.

dont go chasing megapixels