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So, I'll start off by asking if upgrading from a 2700k to a 8700k would be worth it for gaming? (8600k out of stock and is only 100 bucks less so idc). My current CPU is accompanied by a GTX 1070 and I'm playing on a 1440p/144hz monitor. I'm planning to upgrade my GPU maybe the next or the release after that and I'm fairly sure those GPU's would start to get bottlenecked by my current 2700k. I'm gonna add a pic of what I'm planning to get alongside the new CPU (if I should upgrade at all?) and if you guys think there's something I should change on my list, then please go ahead and tell me, thanks.
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Yes and no. The hardware upgrade itself is worth it, but I don't like the current prices. if you're okay with the prices, that's on you. As for the components you plan on getting, I would skip on the NVMe SSD. You would only notice the additional performance while loading Windows.
 

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Strictly for gaming then it's honestly not worth it right now, especially with decent clock on your chip as you have.
You would see an increase in min frames, but I'd just rock what you have now and enjoy your 1070/1440p setup.
 

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I went for it guys. It might not give me all that much performance now, but at least future gpu's won't be bottlenecked by the 2700k.
 

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For me the upgrade would have cost more than upgrading my 980 to a 1080 Ti and wouldn't have been nearly as much benefit. I'm running 3440x1440 so I'm GPU bound anyway. I only play single player games for the most part, so my 2600k stays. lol
 

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I went for it guys. It might not give me all that much performance now, but at least future gpu's won't be bottlenecked by the 2700k.
Congrats man! I went from a 2700k to a 7820x 4 months ago. If I was buying today, it would be a tough choice for me between the 8700k and my chip.
 

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For me the upgrade would have cost more than upgrading my 980 to a 1080 Ti and wouldn't have been nearly as much benefit. I'm running 3440x1440 so I'm GPU bound anyway. I only play single player games for the most part, so my 2600k stays. lol
I also play at 3440x1440 with a 1080 ti and had a 2700k and 980ti.. Going from my 4.8GHz 2700k to my 4.8GHz 7820x made a solid difference in some games and non in others. I don't blame you for rocking your 2600k for a while longer. If I had to choose between upgrading 2700k or upgrading from my 980ti to my 1080ti, it is no contest...1080 ti all the way. The upgrade from a 980 to a 1080ti would be even more epic. You made the right choice.

BTW, How sick is the 1080ti 3440x1440 setup? 100FPS in almost all AA titles in ultra wide 1440 glory! It is a sick combo.
 

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The i7-8700K basically gives you a smoother gaming experience than the i7-2700K thanks to higher 1% and 0.1% lows. Other benefits include much more memory bandwidth and immensely more HSIO lanes provided by the chipset. I know I'm looking forward to those when I eventually upgrade, as well as native SATA III and USB 3.0 support.
 

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Sure, the 1080ti would be great with my 2700k and a cheaper choice a well, but volta is not to far away now either and I'd have to upgrade my cpu sooner or later to, as newer gpu's would start to be held back by my 2700k, maybe the volta release wouldn't do that but more probably the next. My economy and situation right now makes it the right time for me to upgrade as well. I could have waited another year for the next release from intel, but who knows what life might be like then.
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Yeah, that's what I figured from all sources. There's nothing that bugs me more than going under 60fps, so having basically the same max fps as previously with maybe 5fps more and with higher lows will most definitely be worth it for me until I get a new gpu down the road.
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The i7-8700K basically gives you a smoother gaming experience than the i7-2700K thanks to higher 1% and 0.1% lows.
And how much higher are these in case of 1440p and 1070?
 

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And how much higher are these in case of 1440p and 1070?
It would really take a 1080Ti to see a difference tbh
 

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And how much higher are these in case of 1440p and 1070?
I'm not sure, but the difference would be less than 1080p. It's worth noting the move from Sandy Bridge to Coffee Lake gives more than just cores, frequency, and IPC. The Z370 chipset offers quite a bit more than the 60- and 70-series chipsets did, mainly in PCI-e lanes. Z370 offers 24 PCI-e 3.0 lanes compared to 8 PCI-e 2.0 lanes.
 

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I also play at 3440x1440 with a 1080 ti and had a 2700k and 980ti.. Going from my 4.8GHz 2700k to my 4.8GHz 7820x made a solid difference in some games and non in others. I don't blame you for rocking your 2600k for a while longer. If I had to choose between upgrading 2700k or upgrading from my 980ti to my 1080ti, it is no contest...1080 ti all the way. The upgrade from a 980 to a 1080ti would be even more epic. You made the right choice.

BTW, How sick is the 1080ti 3440x1440 setup? 100FPS in almost all AA titles in ultra wide 1440 glory! It is a sick combo.
The 1080Ti is the perfect card for 3440x1440 @ 60hz, imo. Pretty much any game maxed at 4xaa at stock. Dropping down to one of the lesser aa modes cures anything else. As soon as it starts feeling a bit sluggish, I'll start pushing the OC and I'll upgrade the board / CPU / mem and get a nice boost in frames. With the core wars going on, I'm gonna wait another cycle or two before I decide what I'm going to get.
 

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I'm not sure, but the difference would be less than 1080p. It's worth noting the move from Sandy Bridge to Coffee Lake gives more than just cores, frequency, and IPC.
To me with Sandy Bridge E(3960X) it gives exactly the same number of cores/threads, so only a bit of IPC & frequency and this is 5 or 6 generations ahead
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. Z370 chipset also is not good - is somewhat temp. solution(patched Z270), not supports future CPUs, should wait for Z390. So in case SB-E/X79 I see no obvious reason to upgrade to 8700K/Z370 for gaming or anything else. On min(0.1%, 1%) FPS difference in 1440p it is for sure less than 1080p and is probably not noticeable at all (in most modern titles at least), that's why the majority of CPU gaming benchmarks (in media) is done in 1080p or even 720p.
 

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Firstly, I wish Intel stopped giving every new CPU its own generation. What matters are architecture changes and die shrinks. Coffee Lake is optimized Skylake with more cores, two architectures and die shrinks removed from Sandy Bridge. We shouldn't be looking at Coffee Lake as if it's six generations removed from Sandy Bridge, but rather four.

Secondly, since integrating the memory controller into the CPU with Nehalem, only one mainstream series of chipsets supported one family of CPUs: 50-series chipsets. Every series since has supported at least two. I fully expect 300-series motherboards to support two families of processors. After two optimizations, I expect a die shrink and 300-series boards should support those processors with a BIOS update. If that doesn't happen, it honestly doesn't make much of a difference. Architectures aren't improving quickly enough to want to drop a new processor into a five-year old motherboard. So it doesn't matter that current motherboards won't be compatible with 10th generation CPUs. AM4 supporting Zen 2 and 3 is one of the reasons to go Ryzen, but I can't imagine Zen 3 being enough of an upgrade to go that route. And if it is, chances are whatever chipsets and motherboards that come along with it will be much better than what's on the market today.
 

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So, I'll start off by asking if upgrading from a 2700k to a 8700k would be worth it for gaming? (8600k out of stock and is only 100 bucks less so idc). My current CPU is accompanied by a GTX 1070 and I'm playing on a 1440p/144hz monitor. I'm planning to upgrade my GPU maybe the next or the release after that and I'm fairly sure those GPU's would start to get bottlenecked by my current 2700k. I'm gonna add a pic of what I'm planning to get alongside the new CPU (if I should upgrade at all?) and if you guys think there's something I should change on my list, then please go ahead and tell me, thanks.
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Here's a picture of the components:
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A CPU upgrade would be useless with your current GPU.
I'd wait until you can upgrade both because if you can't upgrade the GPU for another year, they will have better chips then too.
 
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