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4870 1Gb or GTX 260 Core 216?

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Hey guys,

I'm building my first rig. My mobo will be the Gigabyte UD3P (which supports ATI Crossfire. Are there compatability issues with NVIDIA?).

I want to pick a good card but I don't know what to decide between ATI or NVIDIA.

What are your opinions (I don't want to set off a whole debate here, but which would be better)? And what card manufacturer would you recommend.

I'm looking to game and do some graphic design (Photoshop, etc).

I want a card that is going to run cool, be reliable, and hopefully free of any problems.

Skinny
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There aren't compatibility issue but you won't be able to Sli two Nvidia cards where as you could CrossFire two Ati cards. Do you want PhysX? If not, go with the 4870 (or crossfire 4850, whatever's your preference)
I'm probably not going to crossfire.

How important is PhysX. Is this used by the majority of games?

Skinny
Personally, I would go with the 4870. As far as Brand, Asus, Sapphire, HIS, MSI, PowerCooler, XFX are all good.

PhysX is not currently used by a large number of games.
Mirror's Edge is the only big one I know of.
With that board I would get the ati card, that is coming from some one who had the 260 it is a good card but no sli with that board.
for Photo shop you should get a Quad core
I'd say get the 4870 because you might want to xfire later on. There are going to be some major price drops on them within a couple months because the 4890 is being released. If you want to mix ATi with a previously nVidia only manufacturer to get the nVidia feel (kind of) get an XFX.
I'd get whichever one you can find cheaper if you don't plan to use crossfire.
From what I hear, Nvidia cards run a bit cooler than ATi cards.

Even though you have a Crossfire motherboard, you shouldn't see any issues with using a single Nvidia card.

I personally would choose the GTX 260 with 216 cores over the 4870. From what I hear, it outperforms the 4870.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts...otals,795.html

If I had to recommend a retailer, it would EVGA for their tremendous customer support, lifetime warranty, and their step-up program.
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I'd say get the 4870 because you might want to xfire later on. There are going to be some major price drops on them within a couple months because the 4890 is being released.
Gist of it, right there. But worth considering two 4850's for budget reasons
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From what I hear, Nvidia cards run a bit cooler than ATi cards.

Even though you have a Crossfire motherboard, you shouldn't see any issues with using a single Nvidia card.

I personally would choose the GTX 260 with 216 cores over the 4870. From what I hear, it outperforms the 4870.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts...otals,795.html

If I had to recommend a retailer, it would EVGA for their tremendous customer support, lifetime warranty, and their step-up program.
From what I understand, they are pretty evenly matched, performance wise.
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From what I understand, they are pretty evenly matched, performance wise.
They vary between games, settings, resolutions.. Its endless really and the fact that three different GTX260's exist doesn't help.
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As far as I know PhysX is not too useful in gaming these days, maybe with time things will change but until then it's not so important to have PhysX in your system...

Physx is technology that takes care of all the physical calculations, if there is a Physx PPU on the system (Ageia PhysX card, GeForce 8 and higher GPU from Nvidia or a CUDA equipped GPU from Nvidia) then what the PHysX system does is, to take all the physics calculations from the CPU and it passes them to the PPU to be processed. This take load from the CPU to allow it to make more calculations and allow the games to run faster. This works ONLY IF THE GAME IS PROGRAMMED TO RUN WITH PHYSX!!!!

So, because many games don't support physx correctly, or they just don't support it, i'd reccomend you to pick the HD4870 1GB if your budget is tight, if not, then get the GTX 216
but remember, if you pick the GTX 260 you won't be able to make SLI because of the motherboard
another extra point to get the HD4870
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OMG sorry, my post duplicated...

DAMN YOU PRODIGY INFINITUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from what i've heard the 4870 handles photoshop better......
Personally I'd wait to purchase and see what becomes of the imminent ATI price drop of the 4870/50, which may also cause Nvidia to drop its GTX 260 prices. I've also read that the GTX 260 C216 performs slightly better than the 4870 1GB, and you can get a EVGA (lifetime warranty) GTX 260 Core 216 (55nm too) for very cheap right now, if you want to purchase as quickly as possible.
If that's true (the 4890 being released in April) then I'm wondering if I should just wait until then to pick up the 4890 or take advantage of the price drop of the 4870 as mentioned.
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I was just surfing the web and came across a rumour that ATI will release the 4890 in April. If that's true then I'm wondering if I should just wait until then to pick up the 4890 or take advantage of the price drop of the 4870.

You mean our very own forums?
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...hd-4770-a.html
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get the 4870.. perhaps xfire.. for only 300 when price drops
He said he wasnt going to xfire

From both tomshardware and guru3d I have seen the GTX260 outperform the 48701GB in almost ever game they tested.

I would just get whats cheapest though imo. They arent that differance performance wise, but I personally would buy the GTX260c216.
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