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5970 vs 5870

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Ok guys here's the deal. I'm in a bit of a dilemna and I want to pick up either 2x 5870s or a 5970. I also want to go watercooling with them.

As of right now I can get a powercolor 5870 + ek Waterblock for $510. I won't have enough to purchase a second one for a while. This is a good deal, considering they are going on newegg for about $550 (CA tax)

Option 2, I can try to snipe up one of those 5970s, for about $660ish. This would come without the waterblock, since there are no waterblocks for the 5970 out yet, and I'm not even sure how much they will cost. (Anywhere from 100-200?) So the end cost will be anywhere from $760-860 when EK comes out with their blocks in a few weeks.

What would you guys do?
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I say since you're going water and heat wont be a problem that you grab the 5870 and waterblock, and then get another 5970 in teh future. Two 5870s will pwn a single 5970 I think.
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I say since you're going water and heat wont be a problem that you grab the 5870 and waterblock, and then get another 5970 in teh future. Two 5870s will pwn a single 5970 I think.

You mean get another 5870 in the future? I've heard that two 5870s will own a 5970, since the 5970 is limited by its stock cooling and cannot overclock that far. But since im WC that may be a moot point.
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5970, then another in 12 months when the 5970 can't max everything. At 1680x1050 I don't think you'll have that issue for atleast 18 months.

The 5970 will overclock to atleast 2x 5870s clocks on water.... with ease I might add. Definitely the better buy here.

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Two 5870s will pwn a single 5970 I think.

Barely beats it, the 5970 will be match the speed of 2x 5870s after OCed, and be $250 cheaper.
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I say just go for the single 5870. You're only playing at 1080p, and that single card will be more than enough for your resolution. Now if you had Eyefinity or a larger resolution...that'd be different.
It'd just be a lot easier (and cheaper) to slap a block on a 5970 and call it a day <---- my vote
Well, do they have a water block for the 5970 yet?

You could either spend 1k + on 2 5870's with WB's, or find a 5970 for 630$~ and have 370$ left to spend on a waterblock. The 5970 might be the cheaper route in all honesty, but the CF 5870's might perform slightly better

Price and performance has my vote. 5970
I was able to run Crysis on a stock clocked 5870 and 3.6Ghz 720BE at 1920x1080 max settings 8xAA with no stuttering, totally playable framerates.

There is no game ATM that a 5870 can't run IMO, unless you're one of those "It sucks if it isn't 60fps even if it doesn't suck" types.

I would do as suggested above though, and see what happens.
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I was able to run Crysis on a stock clocked 5870 and 3.6Ghz 720BE at 1920x1080 max settings 8xAA with no stuttering, totally playable framerates.

There is no game ATM that a 5870 can't run IMO, unless you're one of those "It sucks if it isn't 60fps even if it doesn't suck" types.

I would do as suggested above though, and see what happens.

2560x1600 will utterly destroy a single 5870 in crysis..

At his resolution though, he is probably fine with a 5870. But the 5970 should max anything he can throw at it for atleast 18 months. The 5870 will probably need to be upgraded to 2x 5870s after about a year if he still wants to max games.

I think he will save money in the long run by going with a 5970.
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my vote goes to 5970 no doubt......man i have been recommending this card all day today!! why stop now?? hahaha
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2560x1600 will utterly destroy a single 5870 in crysis..

At his resolution though, he is probably fine with a 5870. But the 5970 should max anything he can throw at it for atleast 18 months. The 5870 will probably need to be upgraded to 2x 5870s after about a year if he still wants to max games.

I think he will save money in the long run by going with a 5970.
That's why I mentioned 1920x1080, I saw he runs the same res as I do in his sig so I figured it would apply to him very well.


I think you are correct, but odds are, W/B's for 5970 will be rather pricy, so he could be looking at well over $800 total. Hard to say atm.

Definitely worth waiting no matter what. Right now is not a good time to buy any 5xxx series card IMO.
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The 5970 with watercooling is one beast of a card... I'd go for it, it's probably going to be the most beastly GPU ever made, I mean 400w and a foot long!!!

It really kind of blows without water cooling though, it uses so much damn power it even has to throttle on stock clocks.

Hope your PSU can handle an OCd 5970!
5970 + waterblock. It's a more affordable OVERALL investment. You're gonna spend more on just the 2x 5870s than the 5970 more than likely, plus the cost of each waterblock.

Once you've got that 5970 watercooled, OCing it beyond 5870 specs will be child's play.
Bump for more input. The Powercolor 5870 + WB must be purchased by tonight if I go that route. Keeping in mind guys that while it may be a wiser investment in the long run to go with the 5970, spending in increments 1 card at a time has its benefits as well. Blowing 800+ on a 5970 in the next month or so is hard to justify, whilst spending 510 on one 5870 now and waiting a year or so down the line is much easier on the wallet in the short term. (imo)

PLUS a 5870 +Block 1 year from now should be significantly cheaper correct? And lastly, I doubt any of my games will require more power than a single 5870 currently. Oh decisions decisions! Help me out OCN! I MUST know by tonight
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I would hold off a month or 2 and see how the prices drop.
Exactly. There isn't anything you can't run now, maybe apart from the 3 games that support some minor DX11 things. You pay full price for the 58/5970 now, and on top of that you'll have to run a few months on crappy drivers..

I'd get one in januar/februar, and then probably the 5870, though this will not give you much more performance than your current setup, so if you really want a big upgrade, the 5970 is the way to go


But I'd at least wait for a price drop!
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I saw that Powercolor 5870 with the block and it looked pretty good IMO. From reviews I heard that the 5970 is two 5850's put together, meaning two 5870s would beat that out. I would go with the two 5870s. Running a single GPU just feels weird to me strangely anyway lol.
Ah I should mention that just today I sold my 2 gtx260s on craigslist for $290. So now I'm using an 8800gt as a temp backup. So yeah I really need a card asap
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I saw that Powercolor 5870 with the block and it looked pretty good IMO. From reviews I heard that the 5970 is two 5850's put together, meaning two 5870s would beat that out. I would go with the two 5870s. Running a single GPU just feels weird to me strangely anyway lol.
No... it's 2 5870 cores downclocked to 5850 clocks to keep within the official power envelope of PCIe 1.1. That's like the 6th or 7th time since release I've had to remind someone of that. They OC back to 5870 specs with ease, and further if you want. Also, in another, more recent review I saw the 5970 beating 2 5870s. I can guess it's because of the faster internal interconnect, but IDK for certain.

If you have the money to blow on a 5970 and a waterblock, do it. 2 5870s w/ waterblocks would be a lot more expensive in the end. ~$1k vs ~$800.
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