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As you can see in my specs below I have a 6800GT and I think that card has finally met its maker. I loaded up Flight Sim X and I can no where get it close to high settings...I know the 7800GS is currently the best AGP vid card out there right now and Newegg has the BFG one for 200 bucks.. My question is will the 7800GS be enough of an upgrade to be able to play some more of these games that are coming out....Or do you think they will release a DX10 Vid card for AGP and should I just wait for that.<br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;"><b>As you can see in my specs below I have a 6800GT</b> and I think that card has finally met its maker. I loaded up Flight Sim X and I can no where get it close to high settings...I know the 7800GS is currently the best AGP vid card out there right now and Newegg has the BFG one for 200 bucks.. My question is will the 7800GS be enough of an upgrade to be able to play some more of these games that are coming out....Or do you think they will release a DX10 Vid card for AGP and should I just wait for that.<br>
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Maybe if you fixed them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)"><br><br>
Wait and upgrade your whole setup. 7800GS is not worth the money. If you can find a 7600GT for a god deal (Under $200) then go for that, but otherwise I would just wait.
 

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bump any more suggestions
 

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Well if you don't want to upgrade your entire pc and you have around $200, the 7800gs is currently the best agp video card you can get. Overclocked it still a good performer, I believe there is someone on these boards that has one and he gets a 3dmark 06 score close to 6000points. Ati was suppose to release some kind of x1900 card that ran on agp, but I haven't heard anything about it in a long time. The other option would be to get a s939 cpu and board with pci-e, so you could use your old ram, hd and optical drives. There are no cards out right now agp or pci-e that support direct X 10 natively, so thats kind of a moot point, I doubt they will release an agp direct X 10 card since the industry has pretty much dropped agp all together in the high end cards.
 

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Stick around with your whole system for a while... I have a feeling they will release a dX10 card in AGP but not sure... Do not upgrade to a 7800gs because you will see minimal increase from your 6800gt. ATI from Diamond will soon be releasing a x1950pro in AGP (I'm waiting for that right now <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />)... So if no AGP card with DX10 comes out then either upgrade to that or its time to move on to PCIe.
 

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I'd say buy a 7600GT PCIe for $120 and then a whole new mobo + cpu. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"><br><br>
But if you can't afford that...buy a ~cheap AGP card now; new ones(like the x1950 PRO) are just around the corner.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">I'd say buy a 7600GT PCIe for $120 and then a whole new mobo + cpu. <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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But if you can't afford that...buy a ~cheap AGP card now; new ones(like the x1950 PRO) are just around the corner.</div>

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</div>If I go the route of buying a new mobo AMD CPU and new grpahics card...What would you recommend that I get that is best for the money that I want to spend.<br />
I dont really want to spend much over 250 if I can help it but then again I will be able to sell my current stuff to makew up for it...
 

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i had a 6800GT and now i have a 7800GS and there is no comparison. The 7800GS smokes my 6800. in 3dmark03 the 6800 would get 12k this card gets 18k . oblivion runs smooth as can be. so does bf2. i run bf2 at 1280x1024 with everything on high except textures and i get a solid 85fps , as for 3dmark05 i get over 7k, and aquamark3 gets me 83k. .. if you can get one for 200 bucks then get it. it will tide you over. the evga version i have overclocked really good. to 500/1525.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">i had a 6800GT and now i have a 7800GS and there is no comparison. The 7800GS smokes my 6800. in 3dmark03 the 6800 would get 12k this card gets 18k . oblivion runs smooth as can be. so does bf2. i run bf2 at 1280x1024 with everything on high except textures and i get a solid 85fps , as for 3dmark05 i get over 7k, and aquamark3 gets me 83k. .. if you can get one for 200 bucks then get it. it will tide you over. the evga version i have overclocked really good. to 500/1525.</div>
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Keep in mind that you also have a AMD 3500+ vs. my Socket 478 3.0GHZ...Your CPU smokes my vid card so that will probably help as well....
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">The X1950Pro is coming out in AGP amazingly enough, I think it's coming in at $299 that should kick some serious ass</div>
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Yeah but when....I dont know if I like the idea of waiting 6 more months for it....
 

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Yeah, a 7800GS can really take it far...but not on your CPU! My CPU is a bit faster than yours, so look at the discrepancy in scores. I get 45k in Aquamark3, and I wouldn't describe Oblivion as "smooth as can be".<br />
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You'll for sure want to go the 7600GT, Mobo + CPU route. Keep your current memory, and transfer as many components over as possible.<br />
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<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813188007" target="_blank">S939 Athlon 64 + Motherboard</a> - $115-125<br />
<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143049" target="_blank">BFG 7600GT 256MB</a> - $120<br />
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If possible sell your current stuff to recoup from some of the costs.<br />
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The combo deal on that gives you a spiffy new CPU to match Burnstudios' one, and presumably a nice overclocking board(260mhz FSB?). There's also cheaper combos, but if you get a CPU with a low multi and can't raise the FSB high, your CPU will never reach its potential.<br />
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That's probably the way to go; you spend as little as possible on a CPU + Motherboard while getting a videocard that can go in your next rig. Overclocked, that CPU is about like a 4.5ghz P4, so should tide you over until quad-cores are common, and you decide where to spend your money next. <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" />
 

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I thought 6800GT is very good already maybe it doesn't fully support DX9c?
 

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All I can say is that the 7600GT outperforms the 7800GSmy enough to make you buy a 7600GT. I say go with the 7600GT use froogle it has lots of results.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">All I can say is that the 7600GT outperforms the 7800GSmy enough to make you buy a 7600GT. I say go with the 7600GT use froogle it has lots of results.</div>

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</div>Roger that. Just look at benchmarks. The only way the 7800GS beats the 7600GT is by OCing it. The 7600GT AGP doesn't OC too well, i hear, since it has the bridge chip. If you're considering the 7600GT AGP, get the XFX ones; they have 256-bit interface, i believe.
 

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to krammy your cpu doesn't beat his. Mine nearly beats his and not by much. and the leadtec 7600gt off newegg is in or was last time i saw buy that or get 300 dollars and get a opty 165 and t force 6100 and a pci e 7600gt that would work too
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">to krammy your cpu doesn't beat his. Mine nearly beats his and not by much. and the leadtec 7600gt off newegg is in or was last time i saw buy that or get 300 dollars and get a opty 165 and t force 6100 and a pci e 7600gt that would work too</div>

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</div>I'm overclocked.
 

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</div>At stock I pull right about a 45-48000K aquamark...Oced on the CPU to 3.6 I get 55K...I think I am going to go for the new CPU, Mobo, Vid card combo...Now to come up with what I want...I like the EVGA one that was listed, however it only has 1 PCI slot...I need at least 2 min...
 

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Am I dreaming or am I really hearing good things about my 3500+ at this time..........I kinda feel a little proud of it for once..........<br><br>
Anyway I wouldn't take a 7600GT if I were you since it isn't much better than that 6800GT. If you were to make your last AGP upgrade then shoot for the 7800GS, it isn't a bad card under any circumstances, although it does cost a little bit much for what it is.<br><br>
If you do plan on getting a whole new PC, however, just drop the word and let us know how much you can afford.
 
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