[compuman145]

Morning guys,

OK I'm getting a new computer because WoW runs like dog poo on my laptop... I can't even get it above 30fps on low and it's doing my head in. I'm trying to make this a budget build without sacrificing too much performance. I don't have issues with spending more money on it later but I need something to get me through these hard, dark times

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£142.27 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard (£82.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£38.27 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£75.99 @ Dabs)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£216.98 @ Dabs)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case (£30.95 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£44.31 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £630.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-01 08:36 GMT+0000)

That's an ITX build I was thinking about, yes I know the processor is locked however i'm going with an H77 motherboard and there isn't room in the case for a good cooler. Also I know I'm well over on the power but that's cheap, 80+ bronze and modular, again with this case the less that's in it the better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£95.56 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£38.27 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£75.99 @ Dabs)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card (£156.56 @ Aria PC)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case (£38.75 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£69.71 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222AB DVD/CD Writer (£16.25 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £678.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-01 08:50 GMT+0000)

That's my standard ATX build, I've had to sacrifice the GPU to keep the cost down, I'm not interested in spending more than £700 and the second I go to a 7950 or a GTX660ti I'm breaching that, I also have to buy a monitor but i'll get that second hand off ebay or gumtree. I would like the option of playing other games as well rather than just WoW. Again the PSU same reasoning as before, 80+ bronze, cheap, modular.

I have no issues getting second hand gear, but I'm not getting GPU's, Processors, etc etc from ebay or Gumtree, I'll happily take them from users on overclock.net though

Any opinions or improvements don't hesitate to reply

, it's all appreciated

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[Ramzinho]

i like the second rig more. but really why not pay just a little extra and getting a better gpu.. all the other parts are good for gaming and i'm sure the samsung RAm can be replaced with cheaper choices..

 

[WR6133]

I'd do the 2nd build unless you need a small form factor for some pressing reason. Have you looked at these newer coolermaster mid towers they have better cable management and features than the older ones. http://www.cclonline.com/product/104010/RC-K350-KWN2-EN/Cases/Cooler-Master-K350-Micro-ATX/ATX-Mid-Tower-Chassis/CAS0785/

 

[compuman145]

Because once I put in the 7950 into the second rig it's the best part of £780....

Unfortunately the prices in the UK are no where near as good as they are in the US, this rig would cost me around £500 in the US. That memory is only £10 more than the 65nm memory.

I quite liked the small form factor machine purely because I was a bit tight for space, also it would be a lot quieter and yeah.... It just seemed like an ok build.

I can always upgrade later on, but after I get the keyboard and mouse etc it'll come to £700

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[Ramzinho]

you can add 80 Quids and move up with the GPU GPU

 

[compuman145]

£80 is quite a lot of money tbh... That's 50% more than the other card and after I sort out a monitor i'll be over £800

I have a holiday to pay for as well this month and that's another £380 and then that's paid off.. :S

I really can't go over £700, well, I can if I don't mind going hungry for a month...

Are there any issues with putting a 7950 in that ITX case?

 

[Ramzinho]

check out WR6133's post.. the case has more cable management solution which really helps your pc running cool with air flow.. also the case he is pointing out is Mid tower and i think it can handle the 7950..
the reason i'm telling you to get the 7950 is that it's gonna keep you going for sometime. and if you plan to Xfire that 7850 i think it might bottle neck as well.

 

[compuman145]

Xfire 7850's won't bottle neck on the i5 3450

Not really too concerned with cable management since it'll be getting ripped out when I fit the waterloop later in the year, if I go with the tower option... TBH if I went with a tower it'd get replaced with the 900D after my holiday in preparation for the water loop.

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[PCBuilder94]

Instead of going intel right this moment maybe you could get an AMD FX-4100. I know this is an Intel thread and I'm in love with intel the AMD would be cheaper. I've noticed you haven't had much luck with people respecting your Budget. I to have been on a tight budget and know how it feels. I hope I can help you out in anyway possible.

 

[Ironman517]

Here is a build that is £790 with monitor. I think you said that you wanted it under £780 with monitor, just get some used parts and you should be golden.

Spoiler: Build

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: GeIL EVO Leggara Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£35.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£63.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£216.98 @ Dabs)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£29.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£47.99 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.85 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor (£93.50 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £789.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

 

[compuman145]

Quote:

Originally Posted by PCBuilder94

Instead of going intel right this moment maybe you could get an AMD FX-4100. I know this is an Intel thread and I'm in love with intel the AMD would be cheaper. I've noticed you haven't had much luck with people respecting your Budget. I to have been on a tight budget and know how it feels. I hope I can help you out in anyway possible.

I've not got an issue per say with going AMD, I've just not got any experience with them
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironman517

Here is a build that is £790 with monitor. I think you said that you wanted it under £780 with monitor, just get some used parts and you should be golden.

Spoiler: Build

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: GeIL EVO Leggara Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£35.90 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£63.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£216.98 @ Dabs)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£29.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£47.99 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.85 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor (£93.50 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £789.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

That's not much different over the one I did, a few bits changed out.... I don't need loads of space either tbh, just a couple of games since I have my laptop I can use for storage if need be, that's why I went with the SSD.

Although that PSU could be considered into the build.... That's a nice choice.... The memory though I'll stick with the samsung memory since it's better for tweaking.

thanks though, it's not a bad go.

 

[Ramzinho]

here is my final thought. get another PSU. no need for 620watts in that build. a 500 will be fine. used the extra cash on the gpu. that's all... and never say few games. there will always be more games than your hdd..

 

[PCBuilder94]

Okay
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramzinho

here is my final thought. get another PSU. no need for 620watts in that build. a 500 will be fine. used the extra cash on the gpu. that's all... and never say few games. there will always be more games than your hdd..

man that sounds good. I wish you luck in your build.

 

[compuman145]

I know 620w is overkill but the thing is that would last me and it's 80 bronze.

Don't really like going with just 80 plus raiting.

 

[BiG StroOnZ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by compuman145

Morning guys,

OK I'm getting a new computer because WoW runs like dog poo on my laptop... I can't even get it above 30fps on low and it's doing my head in. I'm trying to make this a budget build without sacrificing too much performance. I don't have issues with spending more money on it later but I need something to get me through these hard, dark times

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£142.27 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H77N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard (£82.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£38.27 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£75.99 @ Dabs)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£216.98 @ Dabs)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case (£30.95 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£44.31 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £630.77
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-01 08:36 GMT+0000)

That's an ITX build I was thinking about, yes I know the processor is locked however i'm going with an H77 motherboard and there isn't room in the case for a good cooler. Also I know I'm well over on the power but that's cheap, 80+ bronze and modular, again with this case the less that's in it the better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£95.56 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£38.27 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£75.99 @ Dabs)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card (£156.56 @ Aria PC)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case (£38.75 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£69.71 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222AB DVD/CD Writer (£16.25 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £678.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-01 08:50 GMT+0000)
Comps

This build is probably the best.

Except one thing. You can swap that 7850 (which is pretty useless card IMO) for a Sapphire HD7870 (11199-00-20G) on Amazon.com. If you go used you can grab it for £114.56. Amazon.com's used department is very well run and can save you large amounts of money. Have been using it for a while, both buying and selling. Very reliable.