A water cooling idea I have that im curious about

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Toxicknight

Discussion Starter · Mar 16, 2009

ok I have a Danger den setup Im going to be setting up in my upcoming rig.
now I comtemplating an Idea I have coming from my experience in trying to cool big block V8s under the hood of fast quarter mile cars.

in DIY* fuel cooling you can make this container called a fuel cooler out of a coffee can where you take mandrel bent coiled copper tubing place it in the can , have the inlet enter from the top and the exit out the bottom of the can using tightly sealed rubber seals and silicone to leak proof it (due to most nhra regulations an fluids *leaking from the car can sometimes result in disqualification) most fill it with ice , but i know one guy who used liquid nitrogen in his can and it drastically dropped the fuel temps by at least 30 degrees F* and cooling a car is a much larger scale than cooling a pc engine blocks average temperature for a 502 bored (from a 454 bb chevrolet) is around 190 to 200 degrees 240 or above you might cook the inside of the motor and the oil , then cause a piston connectin g rod slam through the side of the block with the piston rings burning start locking up inside the engine. so racers always try to cool their engines in every possible manner. (sorry for the explanation there but giving a idea of the large scale method behind the madness , now if I did this with a watercooling setup ,,, I just wonder if itwould make the cooling potential rediculous or not worth the cost of the nitrogen involved ........ assuming if i want to overclock an am3 and the highest clock possible with out harming the system.

and another wondering is if i would have to use an antifreezing coolant

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thehighlander123

· #2 · Mar 16, 2009

well liquid nitrogen is much colder than any anti freeze is meant to protect against (other liquid than water might work though =] )

in this case why not just use LN2 in a pot on the proc itself

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Rick Arter

· #3 · Mar 16, 2009

Nice idea I say try it and use ice or even dry ice would be plenty.

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Toxicknight

Discussion Starter · #4 · Mar 16, 2009

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Originally Posted by Rick Arter

Nice idea I say try it and use ice or even dry ice would be plenty.

yeah dry ice would be a good idea as well. and cheaper than the nitrogen hehe.

(responding to the first poster :

ln2 ? well i dont want to keep my case open allot and the way those look it appears everytime you wanted to do it youd have to open the case and set the container on the block I could be not seeing the hidden method though Im not that familiar with them ,,,,

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thehighlander123

· #5 · Mar 16, 2009

liquid nitrogen=LN2

but yeah there are alot more difficulties than just turning ur case when u deal with sub ambient temps, one of the big ones is condensation

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Toxicknight

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 16, 2009

yeah Im just looking for a solution that i can keep the case closed with I mean this is just an in theory idea at this moment IM new to overclocking ,, but that idea had crossed my mind when I was laying out the plan for a cooler master midtower elite case I just ordered gonna be a tight fit so gonna be using an outside reservoir anyway ((still trying to figure out where ill mount the longer radiator (it has 2 120mm fans on it ) so I deas are goin through my mind atm lol I may try this for the heck of it. and maybe use dry ice instead for a while thats a bit easier to handle anyway lol

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slickwilly

· #7 · Mar 17, 2009

I had a similar idea but in stead of dry ice or LN2 I was thinking of using a chiller from an old soda machine, it puts the evap. coils for the refer side in to a water bath and then runs a second set of coils through the bath for the water used in the mixing of your favorite Pepsi drink, this set up can frezze the water bath but the water for the soda has not been heated like it would for use on a PC and the refer would use more electricity that a standard water cooling loop so i dropped the idea.

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SpaceCowboy

· #8 · Mar 17, 2009

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Originally Posted by Toxicknight

in DIY* fuel cooling you can make this container called a fuel cooler out of a coffee can where you take mandrel bent coiled copper tubing place it in the can , have the inlet enter from the top and the exit out the bottom of the can using tightly sealed rubber seals and silicone to leak proof it (due to most nhra regulations an fluids *leaking from the car can sometimes result in disqualification) most fill it with ice , but i know one guy who used liquid nitrogen in his can and it drastically dropped the fuel temps by at least 30 degrees F*<snip>

That's just to keep the fuel cold enough that it doesn't vapor lock (percolate or boil off) in the carburetor. Once it passes through it never returns. It's not a closed loop like a cooling system. It's being burned off in the combustion chamber.

If you want to use that principle in a PC cooling loop, it's called chilled water cooling. An example would be to extend the hoses on your radiator 5 feet each, put the radiator in a large picnic cooler, fill with ice & water, then fire up the system. You wouldn't need fans on the radiator.

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slickwilly

· #9 · Mar 21, 2009

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Originally Posted by SpaceCowboy

This is a low cost alternative to what I posted which is an actual chilled water cooler. I might give this a try

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wimcle

· #10 · Mar 21, 2009

You mentioned using ice... today I did that, put my rad in a bucket of icewater (nice 1C coolant) 2 bags of ice lasted the afternoon, nice experiment but not very practical

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ChielScape

· #11 · Mar 21, 2009

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Originally Posted by wimcle

You mentioned using ice... today I did that, put my rad in a bucket of icewater (nice 1C coolant) 2 bags of ice lasted the afternoon, nice experiment but not very practical

now try dry ice :3

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SpaceCowboy

· #12 · Mar 22, 2009

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Originally Posted by wimcle

You mentioned using ice... today I did that, put my rad in a bucket of icewater (nice 1C coolant) 2 bags of ice lasted the afternoon, nice experiment but not very practical

What kind of CPU temp did you see?

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