[scajjr2]

I have 2 A-series systems: one is our current master bedroom HTPC (A6-3500/Biostar TA75M) the other is a A4-5300/Biostar TA75MH2. Both systems have 128Gb SSDs, 8Gb ram, DVD burner, and output to 32" TVs.
As I'm going to put one in our spare bedroom for when kids/grandkids/friends visit which one (if either) would be better for the system that gets more use (probably master bedroom) streaming (from our NAS & online), web surfing, etc. Grandkids bring their Xbox's and PS3's when they come so gaming not so much a factor.

My initial figuring is they're both about the same power usage-wise, A4-5300 slightly more powerful?

Sam

 

[edalbkrad]

The A6 has a slower cpu but an extra core, it also has a better gpu so I say its better.

A6-3500
Triple core 2.1 Ghz with Turbo 2.4 Ghz
HD 6530D 320 shader units

A4-5300
Dualcore 3.4 Ghz with Turbo 3.6 Ghz
HD 7480D 128 shaders

 

[Droogie]

I don't think that extra core is going to make up the difference of 1ghz, especially considering Trinity is faster clock for clock anyway. I'd go with the Trinity. The gpu should do fine for an htpc.

 

[zvrk22]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droogie

I don't think that extra core is going to make up the difference of 1ghz, especially considering Trinity is faster clock for clock anyway. I'd go with the Trinity. The gpu should do fine for an htpc.

Trinity faster clock for clock? Did u mix it around?

3870k (llano) clocks 3.0GHz (no turbo) and 5800k (trinity) clocks 3.8GHz (4.2 turbo) and they score neck to neck in most of test with 3870 even being faster in few.

Trinity isnt faster clock for clock its other way around.

Edit: heres just a fast google result i found comparing the 2 at stock and OC.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2012/10/03/amd-a10-review/4

 

[Heavy MG]

Quote:

Originally Posted by zvrk22

Trinity faster clock for clock? Did u mix it around?

3870k (llano) clocks 3.0GHz (no turbo) and 5800k (trinity) clocks 3.8GHz (4.2 turbo) and they score neck to neck in most of test with 3870 even being faster in few.

Trinity isnt faster clock for clock its other way around.

Edit: heres just a fast google result i found comparing the 2 at stock and OC.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2012/10/03/amd-a10-review/4

The 5800K runs cooler,overclocks higher,and has a more efficient VLIW4 based GPU. Cinebench isn't going to tell you what frame rates you're going to get in what those two APU's are geared for which is HTPC and gaming. Besides this thread isn't about the 3870K or 5800K. An A4 or A6 will be fine for use on a TV.

 

[zvrk22]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavy MG

The 5800K runs cooler,overclocks higher,and has a more efficient VLIW4 based GPU. Cinebench isn't going to tell you what frame rates you're going to get in what those two APU's are geared for which is HTPC and gaming. Besides this thread isn't about the 3870K or 5800K. An A4 or A6 will be fine for use on a TV.

I agree but idk why u quoted me.
Where did i state against any of things u mention?
"The 5800K runs cooler"
"overclocks higher"
"has a more efficient VLIW4 based GPU"
"Cinebench isn't going to tell you what frame rates"
"you're going to get in what those two APU's are geared for which is HTPC and gaming"
"A4 or A6 will be fine for use on a TV"
I very specifically quoted person who posted about clock for clock regarding CPU performance not iGPU. I didnt say trinity is slower i replied simply to hes statement that CPU wise trinity model runs 1GHz higher and is faster clock for clock. It runs higher but isnt clock for clock faster. Idk why u quote me when u say nothing in that regard.

 

[DaveLT]

Clock for clock Trinity is very slow. It uses the piledriver's efficiency to drive up frequencies instead

 

[Droogie]

Quote:

Originally Posted by zvrk22

Trinity faster clock for clock? Did u mix it around?

3870k (llano) clocks 3.0GHz (no turbo) and 5800k (trinity) clocks 3.8GHz (4.2 turbo) and they score neck to neck in most of test with 3870 even being faster in few.

Trinity isnt faster clock for clock its other way around.

Edit: heres just a fast google result i found comparing the 2 at stock and OC.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2012/10/03/amd-a10-review/4

I thought Piledriver finally surpassed the Phenom/Athlon architecture, something that Bulldozer didn't do.

 

[DaveLT]

Bulldozer IPC was 16 and Piledriver 18. Stars was 20. Ivy Bridge & Sandy Bridge 24

Trinity is slower because it's a crippled piledriver due to the lack of L3 cache
Clock for clock piledriver is slower but piledriver can OC to crazy lengths without requiring the same amount of cooling (i.e Piledriver scales up in frequency vs power usage really well)