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Hey there OCN!

I'm trying to build a computer on a low budget. I wanted to double check with the pro's and ask you guys if the power supply would hold in conjunction with this item, and what would be the best GPU options for me.
I am trying to decide on which video cards to purchase, I'll post my questions below.

BUDGET FOR ITEMS NOT INCLUDING THE CASE/PSU: $500-600

CASE:
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Power Supply:
SILVERSTONE ST56F 560W ATX 12V 2.01 & EPS 12V SLI Ready CrossFire Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Motherboard:
GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

RAM:
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B

CPU:
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX

POSSIBLE GPU:
GIGABYTE GV-R785OC-2GD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

This is the build that I came up with. Of these items I have purchased the Case and PSU, however I wanted to see if you guys think the power supply will hold for all these items. Or if there are any tips or feedback you guys could give me to make this build better.

I have a HDD that is not too large but I plan on upgrading as soon as I know everything else is up and working. I'm not too sure if this is the best choice for my GPU - I am working on a budget and this video card seemed reasonable and had good ratings.

I'm hoping this build can run games efficiently, hopefully with some time as the GPU card's prices decline I'd like to double up.

Please let me know what you guys think, thank you for your time!
 

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CPU Debate:

AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core - $199.99

AMD FX-8320 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core - $179.99

AMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core - $139.99

I'm really liking the idea of getting the 6300, however, will I lose anything in the 2 core trade off over time? Would it be in my best interest to spend a bit more and get eight cores?

GPU Debate:

GIGABYTE GV-R787OC-2GD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX - $249.99

GIGABYTE GV-R785OC-2GD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX - $194.99

The only difference I saw in between both of these cards was the 1280 [7870] vs 1024 [7850] stream processors. If you guys think the extra 256 is worth the 50 dollars I would happily make that switch.

I will check out cheaper RAM, I just want it to be solid. I'm also not a professional when it comes to the "timing" I'm not sure what would work best for this set up.

Thank you for your replies, I couldn't see LuckySeven's link (broken link)

What do you guys think? 8/6 cores? And $50 worth it for the better vid card?
 

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Excluding the Case and PSU which I already own. I don't want to spend much over $500. But if I had to go in the 5 hundred for a system that can last me and could be easily upgraded in the future, then I would spend the extra.
 

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CPU Debate:

AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core - $199.99

AMD FX-8320 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core - $179.99

AMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core - $139.99

I'm really liking the idea of getting the 6300, however, will I lose anything in the 2 core trade off over time? Would it be in my best interest to spend a bit more and get eight cores?

GPU Debate:

GIGABYTE GV-R787OC-2GD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX - $249.99

GIGABYTE GV-R785OC-2GD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX - $194.99

The only difference I saw in between both of these cards was the 1280 [7870] vs 1024 [7850] stream processors. If you guys think the extra 256 is worth the 50 dollars I would happily make that switch.

I will check out cheaper RAM, I just want it to be solid. I'm also not a professional when it comes to the "timing" I'm not sure what would work best for this set up.

Thank you for your replies, I couldn't see LuckySeven's link (broken link)

What do you guys think? 8/6 cores? And $50 worth it for the better vid card?
Plenty of PSU

I WOULD consider a FX6300 and a http://www.Newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=14-202-024 for a budget gamer
This is a Tahiti core and darn close in performance to 7950

Let me try link http://www.Newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=14-202-024

Posting from phone, sorry. This is the sapphire 7870 xt which runs a Tahiti core from the 7950. This is the best bang for buck right now

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202024
 

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For gaming (at least for now) you will not lose much by dropping to a 6300. Unless you really REALLY like battlefield 3 64 player servers, a 6300 would be fine.
This! Not many games taking advantage of more than 6 cores atm. The 6300 clocks just as high, if it means you get (dramatically) more Gpu power then its definitely worth the trade off
 

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FYI, if you're not overclocking a locked i5 build will be significantly better than an AMD fx-build & about the same price.
 

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Which PC games will you be playing? Which PC games are most important to you?
At what resolution will you be playing?

One big mistake I see on OCN is ....
people recommend a cpu or gpu for "gaming", and they dont even know which games will be played.
 

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I think I'm pretty convinced on the Sapphire 7870... Deciding which processor to get is debatable right now... I wanted to go with the FX 6300 and try to over clock it. But I'm also thinking it might be in my best interest to get a better CPU (even though costly) so that I won't have to upgrade the CPU and can just double up on the video cards once it goes down in price over time.

This set up as of now is already a little above my budget but I wouldn't mind it if I'm convinced that it will hold for some time.

The games I'll probably be playing are CS:GO and I would probably have it running at the highest res. I'm also thinking of getting another 22" monitor to complement the one I have. Even if my computer raped CS:GO I would probably not have it on full settings so that I could get best FPS and reg. With music running in the background usually. I also do a lot of photoshop work and 3d modeling for my engineering classes.
If my comp raped games I would love to try some more upscale games like Crysis (always wanted to try it) and maybe something like FarCry.

I'm a student, don't want to spend 5k on a G5 computer, I do have a long history with gaming and want this computer to hold. Thank you guys for your input.

The FX 6300 + Overclock?

AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core - $199.99
AMD FX-8320 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core - $179.99
AMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core - $139.99

It seems to me like the 6300 is a great choice, especially with the 7870. I'm just wondering if the $60 dollars from the 6300 to the 8350 over time would be worth spending today. A lot of you guys recommended the 6300, I'm leaning towards it because of the price...however....
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This! Not many games taking advantage of more than 6 cores atm. The 6300 clocks just as high, if it means you get (dramatically) more Gpu power then its definitely worth the trade off
Since the 8320 and the 8350 differ by only 20 dollars, its either 6300 vs 8350. I AM planning on getting the second video card in the next couple of months though, so this would fit with LuckySe7ens theory that it would matter if I get more GPU. Even though you are correct not that many games are knees deep in that technology, it would probably be in my best interest to spend the extra to have a cpu that will last me longer as that technology grows.

So FX 8350 + 7870 looks to be the verdict..

Any last words to save my wallet? Thank you guys for taking the time to reply my noob questions, I want to purchase the parts by the end of today...
 

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Directron has the PCS+ 7870 MYST which is the Tahiti LE chip as well But the sapphire has generally been regarded as better due to cooler design i believe.

The MYST card is more of a traditional singe fan exit out the back type of design. If your case can handle the heat dump of the sapphire card then the thermals and noise should be better with that choice.

Just throwing out an option.

This shows some comparisons in game of 8320 8350 and 6300. For a clost to clock/clock comparo the 6300 vs 8320 is quite close in games. This leads me to believe that the extra 2 cores are rarely advantageous atm
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300_6.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8350_8320_6300_processor_4300_performance_review,10.html

How much is the ~$60 worth to you?
Is it enough that potentially future games may generally be higher threaded?
That is a question that only you can answer
 

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Directron has the PCS+ 7870 MYST which is the Tahiti LE chip as well But the sapphire has generally been regarded as better due to cooler design i believe.

The MYST card is more of a traditional singe fan exit out the back type of design. If your case can handle the heat dump of the sapphire card then the thermals and noise should be better with that choice.

Just throwing out an option.

This shows some comparisons in game of 8320 8350 and 6300. For a clost to clock/clock comparo the 6300 vs 8320 is quite close in games. This leads me to believe that the extra 2 cores are rarely advantageous atm
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300_6.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8350_8320_6300_processor_4300_performance_review,10.html

How much is the ~$60 worth to you?
Is it enough that potentially future games may generally be higher threaded?
That is a question that only you can answer
Great post. Thank you guys for your help
 
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