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My desktop has died twice in the past 9 months so I decided I'll try to get the most for my money and not only build one myself, but also overclock it. Building is half the fun and overclocking is best bang for the buck. I'm a light gamer, and my budget is $1000.<br />
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<b>What I have:</b><br />
psu: <a href="http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4587957" target="_blank">http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4587957</a> <br />
(was free after rebate, doesn't fit in my current case, psu too small)<br />
hdd: 4 pata's, all 7200rpm, wd 40gb, maxtor 60gb, samsung 80gb, maxtor 100gb.<br />
dvd-rw: plextor 716 (currently doesn't run well with amd 1.3 ghz cpu)<br />
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cpu: e6300 + DG965WH + vista ultimate: $220 <br />
(bundle for retail employee, hope to sell the intel mobo for some extra cash)<br />
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mobo: ga-p965-s3: $120<br />
(best bang for the buck mobo, even have an optical in case I ever want to get a surround sound receiver)<br />
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case: cooler master centurion rc-534: $60<br />
<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811119110" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119110</a><br />
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<b>rest is still up in the air.<br />
</b>ram: I wish to get 2x 1gb ddr2 800mhz, pc6400 (probably overkill) as all of them I can find is about $300.<br />
hdd: I may get 1 or 2 sata hdd's as I'm still learning about raid, and plus that way I can organize all my stuff into 4 pata hdd's. <br />
Videocard: no idea what to get, need vga on it as my lcd has no DVI. <br />
Soundcard: onboard sound for now, though I have a set of Klipsch ultra 5.1 speakers<br />
Cooling: I'm afraid of fans, to me they're making my computer louder, harder for me to sleep.<br />
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Not even sure if my budget is doable, I look at other people's e6300 with the same mobo and they're using 667 ram instead of 800. Also I plan on overclocking to 2.5ghz, (that too little? I don't want to do it too much and kill it prematurely.)
 

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Yes, you're late in the game, when C2D CPUs were relased, DDR2 was dirt cheap, but 4-5 weeks later, their prices are ridiculous, I paid $150 for my DDR2 675s, now they're $205 and paid $250 for my DDR2 800s, now they go for $306.<br>
And no, it won't be overkill going for DDR2 800 and the best DDR2 800 right now, it's the G.Skill models that I have (check my sig), so get them while you can and btw, they're the ones with the black heat-spreader. m'kay!<br><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">hdd: I may get 1 or 2 sata hdd's as I'm still learning about raid, and plus that way I can organize all my stuff into 4 pata hdd's.</td>
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Get 2 SATAs, P965 chipset does away with EIDE pretty much, meaning there's room only for two EIDE devices and not 4 like before and having an optical dive in the same EIDE channel as the HDD is a bad idea. So get 2 and do a Raid-0 and whatever is your EIDE HDDs burn it and sell your old EIDE HDDs and get more SATA......EIDE has one foot in the grave and I ditched EIDE HDDs in 2004.<br><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Videocard: no idea what to get, need vga on it as my lcd has no DVI.</td>
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Usually I recommend to spend at least anywhere between $150-$250 max, in your case if you game a lot, a GeForce 7900 GTO or X1900XT but if you don't, a GeForce 7600 GT or X1800GTO will be enough. Now, there are vide cards that cost as much as $600 but I'm not going to spend no where near that for a VC in my life even though I could but for what I do, it'd be a waste of money to have something like that.<br><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Soundcard: onboard sound for now, though I have a set of Klipsch ultra 5.1 speakers</td>
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I hate on-board sound, have never used and never will, so I'd say get one of those AUDIGY GAMER cards, they cost about $40 at eBay, I got one for my 2nd rig as well and it makes a huge difference between on-board and AUDIGY, plus it takes some work-loads off the CPU.<br><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Cooling: I'm afraid of fans, to me they're making my computer louder, harder for me to sleep.</td>
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Get a Thermaltake Big Typhoon, set it to 1500rpm (or can be set lower, I guess?) and that should be pretty quiet, or you can move the PC away from your bed. Quit sleeping with her.....perv!<br><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Not even sure if my budget is doable, I look at other people's e6300 with the same mobo and they're using 667 ram instead of 800. Also I plan on overclocking to 2.5ghz, (that too little? I don't want to do it too much and kill it prematurely.)</td>
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Indeed, you don't want to kill it prematurely but the Core 2 Duo CPUs with 2MB of L2 cache are pretty good damn overclockers and a 357fsb to achive a 2.5ghz is pretty much bery doable and yes, you could end up using the DDR2 667s for that type of OC and here's something less expensive: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227078" target="_blank">OCZ Gold Series 2GB DDR2 667</a>. Huge difference in price between them and DDR2 800, so if that's your max OC you'll do, then save up.<br><br>
-Good luck.
 

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Thanks for the reply. My EIDE drives will all go into enclosures to separate all my stuff. <br />
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A couple little questions: <br />
If I want to OC to 3 ghz, is would the 800 mhz ram help? <br />
The case material aluminum is better than steel right? I also saw a steel case another member on this forum is using and is debating between that and the centurion case. <br />
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<a href="http://www.xoxide.com/x-ventilator-case-black.html" target="_blank">http://www.xoxide.com/x-ventilator-case-black.html</a> vs.<br />
<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119068" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119068</a><br />
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debating between the Thermaltake Big Typhoon and the Artic Cooler freezer 7 pro.<br />
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I also heard some people complaining the ga-p965-ds3 or s3 being too hot so some people suggest adding extra fans. Any suggestions for case fans?
 

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A couple little questions: <br />
If I want to OC to 3 ghz, is would the 800 mhz ram help?

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</div>Yes, because you're stepping into 400+fsb territory. 3000/7 = 429fsb on a 1:1 you're talking DDR2 800 but in some cases, DDR2 667 can do upto DDR2 880, like my Corsair XMS2 DDR2 675s for <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145015" target="_blank">$230 AMIR</a> and this is the kit I bought for $150 about a month ago. <br />
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The case material aluminum is better than steel right? I also saw a steel case another member on this forum is using and is debating between that and the centurion case. <br />
<a href="http://www.xoxide.com/x-ventilator-case-black.html" target="_blank">http://www.xoxide.com/x-ventilator-case-black.html</a> vs.<br />
<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119068" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119068</a>

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</div>It's not the materical that makes the difference but the air-flow. A case with a 120mm fan for Intake and 120mm fan for exhaust is the best way to go because it keeps moving the air inside the case at a higher rate (CFM) than two 90mm would an the 120mm are a lore more quiet. <br />
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So, IMO, I think you should consider a Full Tower, like: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144164" target="_blank">(ASPIRE) X-Navigator </a> which is about $70 more than what you're looking at but if not, I'd say get the CoolerMaster, I have that one but it made a big difference for me putting all my parts in a Full Tower case than on that CoolerMaster Mid-Tower case. <br />
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</div>Not sure about the freezer but some people praise it and I've seen the TT Big Typhoon being a good cooler. Go for the BT IMO.<br />
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I also heard some people complaining the ga-p965-ds3 or s3 being too hot so some people suggest adding extra fans. Any suggestions for case fans?

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</div>I've hard that too and I guess it should help if you decide to put a fan in the south-bridge or north bridge of a DS3.
 

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It's true, the D/S3's northbridge does get pretty hot so you're best off installing either a fan to blow onto the stock heatsink, or buying an aftermarket cooler for your NB.
 

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the gigabyte mobo i have fits a 40mm fan perfectly on the nb cooler, but you might have to super glue it down or something. thats probably what im gonna do.<br />
as far as memory goes, make sure you get 2gb dual channel or at least thats what i suggest... and what video card do you plan on getting? if you plan on gaming, thats probably the most important part along with processor of course.<br />
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as for o/cing to 3ghz that shouldn't be a problem since that board is a fine overclocker.. you may even be able to get to clocks like 3.4ghz and such if you play your cards right lol...
 
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