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i am seriously considering upgrading from my 6600gt (agp) and have a rough idea what i want.<br />
i need some help to get the best deal (considering my rig) and not overspending unneccasarily.<br />
heres what the child in me wants :<a href="http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=392225" target="_blank">http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=392225</a><br />
and heres what my wallet wants :<a href="http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=386398" target="_blank">http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=386398</a><br />
nearly $80 difference.<br />
would i really get all the use out of the "+", maybe the other is enough.<br />
maybe the other is also too much enough ? i don't know<br />
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help me guys
 

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x800-AIW<br />
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it has 16 pipelines!!!!!!!<br />
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oh yeah, i have one and its a stable overclock from 500mhz gpu 1000mhz mem<br />
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to, drumroll...<br />
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600mhz gpu 1200mhz ram on AIR!~
 

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If I can remember right, the Gainward 7800GS is a 7900 core with an AGP-PCIe bridge, giving that one a huge advantage. They are both expensive though, and it may be cheaper to upgrade to a PCIe board and card. Is your presscot a 478 or a 775?<br />
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Edit: The gainward has a heck of a better cooler on it too. The stock one sounds like a jet engine, and looking at the site, it says for the gainward '7900GT on 7800GS'. I think the extra money will be worth it.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">If I can remember right, the Gainward 7800GS is a 7900 core with an AGP-PCIe bridge, giving that one a huge advantage. They are both expensive though, and it may be cheaper to upgrade to a PCIe board and card. Is your presscot a 478 or a 775?<br />
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Edit: The gainward has a heck of a better cooler on it too. The stock one sounds like a jet engine.</div>

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</div>the x800 AIW card is cheaper and outperforms the 7900... not to mention it comes with a tv tuner, video in and a remote
 

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hmm, is this it ?<br />
<a href="http://www.pcplus.co.uk/reviews/components/ati_radeon_x800_xl_all-in-wonder" target="_blank">http://www.pcplus.co.uk/reviews/comp..._all-in-wonder</a><br />
its dearer, but its an x800xl, have i got the wrong one ?
 

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The XL is the PCIe version, and the XT is the AGP, so no, that is not it. Close though.
 

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i dont know if the x800XL has all 16 pipelines of video.<br />
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I think the one you want is the x800xt. theXL is most likely PCI-express x16<br />
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here is a link to the other one. <br />
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<a href="http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__ATI_All_in_Wonder_Radeon_X800_XT_Video_Card,__6728106/skd=1/search=x800+aiw" target="_blank">http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__ATI_A...earch=x800+aiw</a>
 

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The X800 would be nice, but remember, not SM3 in the architecture, so the 7900 would be more future proof. Or just save up for new DX10 stuff.....
 

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are u really sure that this <br />
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATI-X800XT-X800-XT-256Mb-DDR-AGP-Brand-New-in-UK_W0QQitemZ300035740423QQihZ020QQcategoryZ67864QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATI-X800XT-X80...QQcmdZViewItem</a><br />
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is going to be better than this<br />
<a href="http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=392225" target="_blank">http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=392225</a><br />
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or are we just talking about it being better suited to my rig, for 1/2 the $$'s ?
 

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No, check <a href="http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=543&model2=566&chart=224" target="_blank">this</a> out though. Has the GS+ on it, and the X800.
 

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bdatillo, i think your right m8, the 1800gs+ whacks the x800xt, by miles .<br />
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so what about the lower class bfg 7800 gs ? how good would that be for me.<br />
could i save $80 and not regret it ?
 

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</div>WRONG... the 7800gs is the best AGP card out right now... The x800xt AIW may outperform it very little in certain tests but the biggest thing is that it lacks HDR or SM3.0 support. The newer games are and will take advantage of this technology and this is when you will see the x800 cripple. Oh and that overclock you have on your card .. I hope you don't expect your Tv tuner to last <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" />
 

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The BFG will preform about 15-20% slower than the Gainward, and there is about a 20% price difference between the two, so depending on how much of a hit your wallet can take, either would be good, and an improvement from your 6600GT. I would go for the gainward. I wish us USA people could buy gainward....quality stuff, and with that cooler, you can push the clocks big time.
 
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i take your point, my "PC fund" increases steadily as i have a saving scheme, please don't tell the wife,lol.<br />
so i think i will wait that little bit longer, maybe Jan 07, before i buy.<br />
i will even have a bit left over of i wait that long.<br />
thanks for your help Btadillo, rep 4 u <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /><br />
also, i think this just about confirms what u say.<br />
<a href="http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/09/26/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money_uk/page7.html" target="_blank">http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/09/26..._uk/page7.html</a>
 
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