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X2, get a 4800
 

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I would go with an X2 3800, and if you dont have it already, go SLI. The price on the 4800's has not really dropped that much I don't think. Plus, the X2 3800's OC like crazy. I wish I got one of those instead of the 4600+. If you can find a cheap one, get a 4400+
 

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4x4 will apparently be on socket f anyway <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
get the x2 3800 <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Thumb">
 

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4X4 will not be socket AM2. I believe it will be socket F, the 1207 pin processors. If you do go AM2, remember you will have to buy DDR2, and RAM prices have gone through the roof lately. I would just go with the 939, and do a whole upgrade when AM2+ or AM3 come out in 2007, but thats just my opinion!
 

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To get the most out of your current system with the least cost for an X2 look into a 165 Opty, just hope you get a great air OCer!<br>
Or just keep the 3700+ <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">To get the most out of your current system with the least cost for an X2 look into a 165 Opty, just hope you get a great air OCer!<br>
Or just keep the 3700+ <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"></div>
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thats a great idea
 

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Go with Duke and the Opty 165. They are $259 on newegg right now!<br><br><a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103588" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103588</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">To get the most out of your current system with the least cost for an X2 look into a 165 Opty, just hope you get a great air OCer!<br />
Or just keep the 3700+ <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /></div>

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</div>Should have sold the current system and go AM2. S939 systems are not going to worth a lot next year when K8L is out on AM2/AM2+.<br />
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Have to use a longer term perspective to value your TCO. S939 is trash now.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Should have sold the current system and go AM2. S939 systems are not going to worth a lot next year when K8L is out on AM2/AM2+.<br />
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Have to use a longer term perspective to value your TCO. S939 is trash now.</div>

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</div>Compared to a Core 2 Duo system the Socket 939's may be obsolete, but compared to AM2 they hold their own, rather nicely in fact. You have to get DDR2-800 or higher with low latencies, haha I just said low latency when refering to DDR2, to see an improvement over a socket 939 with DDR-400. Your view is narrow on this subject, and a little research will open your eyes.<br />
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Look at the Opteron 165 or the X2 4400+. They both have 2x1MB L2Cache and will overclock similarly, and I think the price on the 4400+ is a little lower as a general rule on most online shops.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Should have sold the current system and go AM2. S939 systems are not going to worth a lot next year when K8L is out on AM2/AM2+.<br />
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Have to use a longer term perspective to value your TCO. S939 is trash now.</div>

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</div>An OCed highend 939 surelly isn't trash! <br />
Monarch has the retail 165 for under $200
 

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After reading the posts I shopped a bit and found $230 spread in prices? No rebates or sales. $160 at newegg and $300 at tigerdirect. Is there something I am missing?<br />
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What your missing is tiger is over priced.<br />
BTW, opps. I missed the newegg deal, great price!
 

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Directron has the <a href="http://www.directron.com/ds-amdada3800cubox.html" target="_blank">X2 3800+</a> for $152 with shipping included. Eagle Computers has the <a href="http://www.saveateagle.com/osa165cdbox-v000.html?ovchn=PGR&ovcpn=Price+Grabber&ovcrn=OSA165CDBOX&ch=PG&pr=159.99&ship=Free" target="_blank">Opteron 165</a> for $160 with shipping included. I have had good experiences with Directron, but I have never dealt with Eagle Computers. Their consumer rating on pricegrabber is favorable though.
 

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Tiger Direct is a ripoff...
 

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You can get some great prices at TigerDirect at times. You just have to shop around. I use <a href="http://www.pricegrabber.com" target="_blank">PriceGrabber</a> with shipping factored in to find the best prices. If Newegg is anywhere near the lowest price I will go with them because of their superior service, but that is only worth so much.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">4X4 will not be socket AM2. I believe it will be socket F, the 1207 pin processors. If you do go AM2, remember you will have to buy DDR2, and RAM prices have gone through the roof lately. I would just go with the 939, and do a whole upgrade when AM2+ or AM3 come out in 2007, but thats just my opinion!</div>

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He's dead right about that ram, the stuff I have in my rig is worth $60 more now then when I bought it over a year ago.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Compared to a Core 2 Duo system the Socket 939's may be obsolete, but compared to AM2 they hold their own, rather nicely in fact. You have to get DDR2-800 or higher with low latencies, haha I just said low latency when refering to DDR2, to see an improvement over a socket 939 with DDR-400. Your view is narrow on this subject, and a little research will open your eyes.<br><br>
Look at the Opteron 165 or the X2 4400+. They both have 2x1MB L2Cache and will overclock similarly, and I think the price on the 4400+ is a little lower as a general rule on most online shops.</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">An OCed highend 939 surelly isn't trash!<br>
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Not talking about Conroe vs A64X2, so stop it there please.<br><br>
An good OC highend 939 isn't trash yet, but they will be trash come December when 65nm parts are out and will make it to the junk yards come next July when Altairs are out.<br><br>
It seems no one in this thread ever considers resale value or TCO of their "highend" systems. Don't cry when your s939 CPU + Mobo + RAM resale price drop from $400 now to $150 next year. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
BTW, hey look, FX-57 S939 is on sale for $190 at Newegg!!!!! I wonder why. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Not talking about Conroe vs A64X2, so stop it there please.<br><br>
An good OC highend 939 isn't trash yet, but they will be trash come December when 65nm parts are out and will make it to the junk yards come next July when Altairs are out.<br><br>
It seems no one in this thread ever considers resale value or TCO of their "highend" systems. Don't cry when your s939 CPU + Mobo + RAM resale price drop from $400 now to $150 next year. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
BTW, hey look, FX-57 S939 is on sale for $190 at Newegg!!!!! I wonder why. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"></div>
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You suggested that cmas sell his socket 939 setup and go with an AM2 setup. If you had suggested that cmas sell his system and go with a Core 2 Duo system that would have some logic and reason. Thus, my reference to a Core 2 Duo setup. However, recommending that someone sell their socket 939 system to make a lateral movement in terms of performance to the AM2 format is ludicrous in my opinion. Even with the monetary concerns considered that you pointed out. It is a valid point with merit, but I spend money on a system to functionally complete the tasks/interest I am involved with, not to make a wise financial decision.<br><br>
For individuals like cmas that want to give their system a little more legs and are not prepared to make the switch to Intel, investing in a processor like the 3800+ or Opteron 165 is a very intelligent decision when compared to scraping their system for an AM2 setup. The only time I will be crying over my computer is if my socket 939 setup along with my Opteron 165 were to take a dive on me and I was forced to buy an AM2 setup. By the way look at my attachment showing in Sandra how my Opteron 146 I used to have that now costs $90 beats the FX-57. So that price is still too high in my opinion.<br><a href="http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazonaws.com/d/d5/d5888ecf_vbattach32801.png"><img alt="LL" src="http://cdn.overclock.net/d/d5/525x525px-LL-d5888ecf_vbattach32801.png" style="width:525px;height:420px;"></a>
 
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