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is the extra 1mb cache and +400mhz stock speed worth the extra $$$? its almost double the price......<br />
and what are the usual stable OC of both proc's?
 

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can depend on what stepping you get. Some people on here have the 3800+ and have it OCed to like 2.6-2.9<br />
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But don't know how the 4800+ will OC, but usually more L2 cache can sometimes mean a better OC.<br />
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Like for mine, same has the 4800+ just with 2x512 cache, I got it up to 2.6 stable, and 2.8 max, but only tried it a couple of times, and didn't mess with ram timmings or anything.
 

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Both are good....you get around 2.7 Ghz on average on the x2 3800. I have the x2 4000 which goes up to around 2.9, and now the x2 4800 which I have gotten up to 3.14. All very nice oc'ing chips. And the xtra L2 cache simply gives it a little more processing power over the 512 versions in some applications.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Both are good....you get around 2.7 Ghz on average on the x2 3800. I have the x2 4000 which goes up to around 2.9, and now the x2 4800 which I have gotten up to 3.14. All very nice oc'ing chips. And the xtra L2 cache simply gives it a little more processing power over the 512 versions in some applications.</div>

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what mobo did you use to get overclocks like that?? did u run prime and what not to make sure u had a stable overclock
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">what mobo did you use to get overclocks like that?? did u run prime and what not to make sure u had a stable overclock</div>

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</div>While I can't vouch for every instance, I have seen OCs like that verified with CPU-z and prime stable for many hours. The mobos people use very alot, good ones include DFI mobos and to a slightly lesser extent ASUS mobos.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">what mobo did you use to get overclocks like that?? did u run prime and what not to make sure u had a stable overclock</div>

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</div>Used the the DFI 590, and Asus M2N32SLI dlx mobo on both chips. The DFI is a slightly betetr oc'er due to better bios options bus Asus let me hit almost the same clocks. I used prime95 on both cores for 8+ hours to make sure of stability.
 

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hummm!!<img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Thumb" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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just like I though, I had a hunch u had to have been running a DFI mobo<img src="/images/smilies/cool.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cool" class="inlineimg" /> Im running an Asus A8R-MVP (@1.56 volts), and the best 24hr stable clock I could reach was 2.5 ghz.<img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" /> <br />
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max overclock was 2.7 ghz, but wasn't stable enough<img src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Mad" class="inlineimg" />
 

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You needed that many volts for 2.5? what is your FSB and multiplier?<br />
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EDIT: DOH, 10 multiplier I am sure with 250 FSB, I am guessing you set the HT link to x3 and also increased the RAM divider as you moved up the FSB?
 

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FWIW, I dont think its worth the overclock in a 4800, when a 3800 can get you just as far as the 4800 will. <br />
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IMHO, if you plan on overclocking and saving money at the same time...get you a 3800 X2
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">You needed that many volts for 2.5? what is your FSB and multiplier?<br />
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EDIT: DOH, 10 multiplier I am sure with 250 FSB, I am guessing you set the HT link to x3 and also increased the RAM divider as you moved up the FSB?</div>

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250 FSB<br />
10x Multiplier<br />
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LDT @ 3x<br />
Ram divider set for DDR333.<br />
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I will double check my settings when I get home. im not quite sure about the voltage setting I gave you. I just have a bunch of notes that I took and wrote down as I was finding my max settings (u know...max FSB, max CPU, max ram, etc...).
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">FWIW, I dont think its worth the overclock in a 4800, when a 3800 can get you just as far as the 4800 will. <br />
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IMHO, if you plan on overclocking and saving money at the same time...get you a 3800 X2</div>

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</div>The 3800 will usually not go as far as a 4800. The higher the stock speed the higher it will OC, usually. As far as how much its worth to you, it depends on what the difference between hitting ~2.7 and ~3.1 is worth to your wallet.<br />
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<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103754" target="_blank">x2 [email protected]$</a>, <a href="http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80724-9" target="_blank">x2 [email protected]$</a>, <a href="http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80721-8" target="_blank">x2 [email protected]$</a> (the 3800's are out of stock at both Newegg and ZZF) - No matter what you go with I think they are all great buys at these prices. Core 2 really made AMD slash everything up and down their line.
 

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whats the average oc speeds people have been achieving here with a 4800??<br>
Ive been doing some reading, and the 4800 doesnt seem to overclock as high as one would expect. only a handful (maybe less) of people hitting the 3 ghz mark with a 4800 X2.<br><br>
for the X2 3800, Ive been reading about people averaging somewhere between 2.5-2.8 ghz.<br><br>
now-a-days, its kinda hard to tell when people post an overclock. Did they hit a "Max" overclock or did they hit a "24 hr Stable" overclock. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused"><br><br>
My testing methodologies <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/typer.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Typer"> involve a 24 hr run with memtest, prime95, and OCCT, and sometimes ill throw in 3dMark05 and let it loop several times. gonna burn some muscle<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Thumb">
 

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My voltage is about 1.5-1.52<br>
Ram divider at 166<br>
Memory speed at 208 Mhz @ 3-3-3-8<br>
250 FSB w/ 10x multiplier<br>
LDT 3x<br><br>
you think I should lower my voltage (its maxed out w/ overvoltage turned on)?? what voltage were you running that gave you a 2.8 Ghz speed??<br><br>
here is a pic<br><img alt="" src="http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n186/Latin-Man/Score6-1.jpg" style="border:0px solid;">
 

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You guys are talking about the x2 3800 939 skt I believe. I think the OP is interested in the AM2 versions.
 

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For my 2.64 and 2.7 for that matter (not 100%) Ihave my RAM on a slightly higher divider. But I am assuming you have tried this. Sometimes you just get a bad chip.
 

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the difference is 1000+.<br>
haha PWNED<br>
not really.<br>
get it like (4800+) - (3800+)<br>
yea. im such a joker.
 

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If I move my ram divider up, my memory speed will shott past my max-ram-speed. so I really cant, but I did try it though.
 

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I dont want to oc' to defualt speeds of another processor, I want to oc' as high as I can get (usually faster)<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Thumb"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin">
 

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well i would suggest going witht he 4800 if you can afford it, ive had a heck of a time ocing both the 3800 and 4000 and realized that was jsut there highest, i got the 4000 to about 2.4 which really sucked and my 3800 to about 2.7 stable but thats with 1.7 vcore so its a voltage hog, and its frozen which really pisses me off, from what i have heard the 4800 will get you hihgher then either of these two,<br><br>
go with that or hope that you get lucky with one of the 3800 or the 4000 if you can find it because its got the 1mb l2 cache for each core
 
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