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Ok, first of all... I'm aware that it's old, and yes, i have something else but i want it to work so... just give me some help


Ok i have a AMD 2200+ that appears as a 1800 and has a bus speed of 166, i have 1.5GB of DDR RAM that runs at 400Mhz... My motherboard is a VIA KT600 and the BIOS is a Pheonix 6.00 PG... The thing is that the computer is (from time to time) even freezing or crashing (rebooting)... It's very cold outside, 35 - 40 degrees (Celsius) and i thought it can't handle it... So i bought a fan for the HDD (don't ask me why, it seeemed preety hot)... After that, a fan for the cage, still, same thing... Another fan for the CPU (but not an expensive one... 2200RPM)... The thing is that after it's restarting the bios shows the CPU temp at 52-53 degrees... And i guess that something is wrong, and it doesn't have any connection to the fans... I think the frequencyes are wrong so i'm asking you for help
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Things to consider...
The BIOS temp is 80% of the full load temp.
You should keep the full load temp @ or below 55c when OCing... some prefer below 60c but thats pushing it.
Some possibilities to look into.
1. Check the voltage out puts on the 3.3, 5 and 12v rails.
2. Memtest86 to test your RAM.
3. Do you have the latest chip set drivers.
4. Is there a relative BIOS update that you may need
5. Mixed RAM can cause issues...
IC can be used on one of both sides of the RAM and mixing them can cause issues. That is 8 chips on each side or having 8 and 16 chip modules can be an issue.
The 2200+ ... both the Thouroughbred and Thorton Cores do run at 1800MHz with a default 13.5x.

Oh, and please fill in your "System Specs" via the USER CP link, it will help us help you
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Welcome to the forums friend


Lovely - more K7 stories ^_^

nice advice there by duke - I would only also like to add.

Check your IDE cables..
As well as what your temps look like under FULL load (in bios even).

PErhaps its getting much hotter in windows than you think (like mine does)
My system crashes at 58d (cant keep it any cooler :\\ - unless I take off my case)

As for your speeds being wrong
They're quite fine
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Welcome to the forums friend


Lovely - more K7 clocking. ^_^

nice advice there by duke - I would only also like to add.
Check your IDE cables..
As well as what your temps look like under FULL load (in bios even).

PErhaps its getting much hotter in windows than you think (like mine does)
My system crashes at 58d (cant keep it any cooler :\\ - unless I take off my case)

As for your speeds being wrong
They're quite fine

IDE cables
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I was just looking around for help and... I saw "The Grimm Event"... On a side note, it's very nice what you guys are doing... You have a nice community here... I think i'll stick around


As for my problem, i'll look into what Duke advised

I'll keep you informed
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I was just looking around for help and... I saw "The Grimm Event"... On a side note, it's very nice what you guys are doing... You have a nice community here...
BELIEVE IT - like NO other my friend (and trust me - Ive been around)

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I think i'll stick around

Nice.
You'll love it here ^_^

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As for my problem, i'll look into what Duke advised

I'll keep you informed
Good.
And while you're at it (memtest should reveal a RAM prob anyway)

you should take out your sticks of RAM, and clean the contact with a normal eraser (just rub them, even if they dont look dirty, there is usually a film..)

And use an and old toothbrush and brush out your RAM slots
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Originally Posted by mikehit47 View Post
I was just looking around for help and... I saw "The Grimm Event"... On a side note, it's very nice what you guys are doing... You have a nice community here... I think i'll stick around


As for my problem, i'll look into what Duke advised

I'll keep you informed
Don't forget Grim's recommendations too
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I "MEM Tested" the RAM... It didn't show any problems... And yes, it's mixxed, 2 Kings and a "Vitesta" metalcase... I'm going to change the IDE cables now and clean the RAM... Paste some termoconductor paste on the CPU so i'll see you... when i'll see you
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Ok Man.

But we may need to specify some options in memtest to get the most thorough test
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Ok, changed the paste, the IDE cables, cleaned the RAM... And the rest of the dust from the motherboard... When my mom saw the computer wide open she had a revelation on the computer's next spot in the house and i had to move it :|... Mom's....... Anyway, i'll see how this works out
I'll be crawling around...
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Ok, it was still the same even after i left only one plate of RAM inside :| BUT! As i was sure that the heat was the problem... Here's my new cage


http://www.shopit.ro/componente-pc/c.../nine-hundred/

It's a romanian website, just click the unit to enlarge the picture
... It has 4 coolers inside 2 get air in and 2 big ones get air out
... No problem so far, i've rendered a 1024x768 complex interior project that took like 3-4 hours and the processor was at 100% all the time
Nothing happened... Bought a new power source too


http://www.shopit.ro/componente-pc/s.../sp-atx-z600w/

This one has 2 coolers inside, one gets air out and one gets air in (from the inside of the cage)... The investment took me to like... 60Euro for the source and 110Euro for the cage


I love the lights too
3 of 4 coolers from the cage have blue leds and both coolers of the source
It looks really nice... Too bad it's an old motherboard inside
))) I think i'll buy another cage like this or simmilar (another colour) for my other computer


Edit: The cage also has 2 more spots for coolers... Hmmm
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Chipset drivers...Hyperion 5.07a
Like The Duke said before a BIOS revision should fix your temp issue unless you have the absolute latest.
Antec 900 is very popular here

Nice choice!
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You may want to check the Heatsink contact with the CPU. Also, some BIOS' have a auto-shutoff protection, shutting down the PC when the CPU temp hits 60*C.
make sure ALL cables are tight, and if need be, take your tim e when moving to the new case. Clean contacts with rubbing alcohol on q-tips, and let them air dry. Then clear the CMOS on the motherboard. (remove the little battery on the motherboard for about 5 minutes)
Next, I suggest that you use windos to scan the Hard Drive for errors. Mine was having similar issues, but everything was stable, so I scanned the HD. Turned out that was the problem. Also scan for Spyware/Adware.

So, simply:
  1. Do what the other members suggested
  2. Check Heatsink
  3. Check BIOS for Auto-Shutdown Temp setting (if it exists)
  4. Check Cables
  5. Rebuild PC, cleaning all contacts with rubbing alcohol on a Q-Tip
  6. Clear CMOS
  7. Scan HDD for errors/spyware/viruses
Finally, make sure all your drivers are up to date.

Good luck!


And

Welcome to the real OC!
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