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I Just installed my watercooling and its working pretty decent. I have my FSB at 149Mhz and multiplier at 11 (next multiplier for my bios is 14). I cannot push my pcu past 1642mhz (149 FSB). When I go over this by 1mhz FSB my comp crshes and does a physical memory dump or I get "Status Code 128."

What do I have to do to push my cpu faster??
 

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Here is the actual message:

The system is shutting down. Please save all work in progress and log off. Any unsaved changes will be lost. This shutdown was initiated by NT AUTHORITY\\SYSTEM.

The system process C:\\WINNT\\SYSTEM32\\SERVICES.EXE terminated unexpectedly with status code 128. The system will shut down and restart.
 

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When I had my XP1800+ (one of my first CPUs) I was able to go as high as 166x13 with 1.7V at a 1:1 ratio, but that was with a nforce2 chip, a massive copper heatsink, and a Tornado at full blast... those were the days
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Your RAM seems to be a little on the slow side, so I would put it at a divider to keep it at or under its rated speed. Never had any experience with VIA chips (OC experience) so I can't really say.
 

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So how do I get around this? my goal is 1.8ish Ghz... and my comp is pretty cool... wahts the problme ??

39C idle 45C load
 

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Put the RAM on a divider, increase the vcore and chipset voltage (don't go crazy), enable PCI and AGP frequency locks (I know nforce boards do this, not sure about VIA boards).
 

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Ok i understand how to do voltage on core (+.5good?)

How do i check chipset voltage (its still on auto). Is it in CPU-z?

explain ram divider thing...
Does this mean to put my two sticks of ram farther apart? like slot 1 asnd 3?

explain PCI AGP locks (never seen these in my bios)

sorry first time overclocking
 

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Since you are on WC, +.5 is okay but I wouldn't push it past there even if temps. are within acceptable levels. There should be an option to change chipset voltage in your BIOS; the default value is 1.5V and depending on the board it may let you set it as high as 1.8V (this is from my experiences with the nforce chip).
Your BIOS should also have the option to set dividers; they are usually rapresented as frequency intervals (200MHz, 166MHz, 133MHz, etc.) or ratio type values between your CPU FSB and your RAM frequency (1:1, 2:1, etc.). This means that a 200Mhz or 1:1 divider will allow you to run both your CPU FSB and RAM at the same frequency (if the CPU is running at 166 so will the RAM), or similarly if running a 2:1 divider with a 200FSB means your RAM will run at 100MHz. Dividers allow you to set your FSB higher while keeping your RAM at it's rated speed or close to it (this reduces instability on the part of the RAM).
Everytime you increase or decrease the system FSB, you also change the frequency of the PCI, AGP, and IDE bus (SATA bus in newer boards also), which may cause instability with devices using those channels (video cards, sound cards, HDDs). Some motherboards (specially the nforce based ones) allow you to manually lock these or do it automatically. I remember hearing that one of the reasons VIA chips sucked at OCing was because they did not have this particular lock.
Of course, this is all from my OCing experiences with nforce boards, since the only VIA boards I ever touched were budget builds I did for others. You may be limited on your OC potential simply because you have a VIA chip, but you should be able to push at least a 300MHz+ OC.
http://www.overclock.net/overclock.p...king-guide.htm
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/31782-...pu-memory.html

Edit: That PSU looks a bit iffy, specially if running a WC setup and OCing. That may be holding you back too. Check the rails; you should have at least 20A in the 12V rail.
 

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zomg questions


So i could not find any sort of divider mechanism in my bios

I foud a DRAM timing control and i think it is like your frequency lock but im not sure... I am weary to touch anything cause im freaking paranoid until i get some sort of ok...haha, THe options were SPD (like auto?), HCLK and HCLK+-33.

I also founda item called "fast command" which my user manual says is likea response time mechanism between my cpu and fsb/mem? it is current ly on normal (with fast and ultra remaining). If I put on ultra what could happen? is my computer going to die ? :/

Also how can i find out my PCI/AGP/ram voltages? is there a program out there?

How do i check the rail?

And what is this business about spread spectrums?! Will there be adverse effects if i disable it (currently at 25%)

bah... lots of questions but if you feel up to it, answer away ^ ^
 

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Check the FAQS that I linked to; there are more laying around the forum, so just do a search.
Timmings are another important aspect in overclocking. Basically, the lower the values, the faster the RAM and the more stress you will put on them (leading to possible instability). One of the FAQS I linked to should have an indepth explanation on timmings. I'm rather certain that the "fast command" controls the timmings (the more aggresive settings lower the timmings). I could be wrong, so just try it out; you can just make the changes, save and restart, and then go right to the BIOS again to see what changed (that way you don't risk booting into the OS without knowing what you changed).
You can use Speedfan or MotherBoardMonitor to check voltages and temperature readings. The PSU should have a label with its specifications, unless it's a generic PSU that came with your case, in which case I would reccomend changing it. Again, the countless overclocking FAQS on the forum have reccommendations on PSU specifications.
 

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The VIA chipset along with your memory speed is holding you back...
Make sure you've updated to the newest chipset drivers and last official BIOS
 

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That mobo is not helping you at all with your OC, if I remember correctly msot IVA boards do not have pci/agp locks, and a lot of them do not have their own adjust for it. Typically they incrase with your fsb clock. IF you can try and maybe set your fsb clock to 166. I do not know hold old your baord is or what the max capable running fsb is. But chances are the board will not allow you that. Usually with the "Standard" fsb clocks for cpu's on a mobo the pci/agp bus stays at its default (33/66). I know on my older AMD Slot A board, you can increase the fsb, bu tthe pci/agp freq increase slightly also. If I also remember the max safe pci bus is 35. If you can get a nForce2 mobo for cheap to OC your xp1800 then I am sure you will have more luck. Those palominos typically run hotter than the t-bred or barton and even the t-bird.
 

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Specialist
Are you using SD-RAM?
Look if you can get a better OC if you only use the PC166 Ram stick!
The PC133 stick holds you back!
There is no PC166 SDRam
 

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My mobo is like 8-10 years old, same with the processor. Both are in great shape

as for the ram, dimm 1 is pc 2700 and dimm 2 is pc 2100... That was a goof on my part when i was building by computer as a young one
And now i do not have money to upgrade and keep my mem at 768 (or wow gets all poopy like)

I am still getting BSOD's /cry, i have seen some debate of the spectrum thing with EMI interference if i turn it off--do yu guys think i should worry about this or should i let it go? Or are the BSODS from my ram... getting hot? i dunno


In light of me not being uble to re-upgrade my ram...should i play with the ultra/fast option for the ram clock?
 

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OCing your MB has quirks.
1. Ocing can cause the PCI bus to run out of specs and cause instability and crashes. If you can run @ a standard like 166 go for it.
2. Keep the full load temp @ or below 55c.
 

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Ok so i was searchin the forums and i found on MM5, speedfan, and cpuz my HD temp was 60C!!!! Could this be causing the BSODs? IF it is really 60C (as it doesnt feel that was when i touch my hand to it) how the heck do i get this under control!?
 

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If that "60c" is accurate that could be a serious issue!
Odd, that is very hot, if it's bocked in at a no air flow area it would run hotter.
 

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Mine is running at 63C and I can get to 1.78Ghz no problems (same temps). Your RAM is holding you back and so is your mobo
 

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You wont get any farther with that motherboard, VIA chipsets of that era didn't have pci/agp locks. get a board with nf-2 chipset then you will get more out of that setup.
 
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