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AMD Going under NEVER!

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I am hearing a lot about amd going under cause of i7 and i don't think it will happen...

Yes if you look at alot of the profiles here all you see is mostly core 2 q**** or e**** which is great for intel and you do see the amd boys of course.

if you look at the market cap of 100% and even if amd has only 15% that should still be enough to keep them alive as long as they kept fighting for more shares and yes i know they have a larger share of the market then that.

As long as amd keeps competeing with intel in price/performance and as least keeps up until they can strike I don't think amd will ever go under. I must also admit that their Black editions look really fun to play with even if oc's are minimal having the multiplier and bus to oc with a low price is awesome.

So if your a amd fan and your worried about amd crashing I wouldn't worry that much.
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Never did. Look at ATi as the perfect example. Getting stomped on by nVidia for at least two years, then BAM. Surprise, we own. Things can change that fast. Nothing to worry about really.
I was an AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU fanboy for a few years.. but I won't buy something based on wether i prefer it for some strange reason, i go for what is most competitive in both price and performance. Don't think AMD will ever go under.
Worse case would be that AMD stops making gaming processors and high end processors.

They still have a large market for normal consumers.

Processors are fast enough now that we really don't need anything faster though.

I mean what does the I7 have over my Q6600 @ 3.6 in games at 1920x1200. 2FPS at most.

Probably alot faster at encoding but thats not something i care about.
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Worse case would be that AMD stops making gaming processors and high end processors.

They still have a large market for normal consumers.

Processors are fast enough now that we really don't need anything faster though.

I mean what does the I7 have over my Q6600 @ 3.6 in games at 1920x1200. 2FPS at most.

Probably alot faster at encoding but thats not something i care about.
i have a q6600 stock and it runs everything flawless i could only understand the i7 if your running a p4 or maybe some dual cores or your a enthusiast
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post
Worse case would be that AMD stops making gaming processors and high end processors.

They still have a large market for normal consumers.

Processors are fast enough now that we really don't need anything faster though.

I mean what does the I7 have over my Q6600 @ 3.6 in games at 1920x1200. 2FPS at most.

Probably alot faster at encoding but thats not something i care about.
most sites show the 920 matching the qx9770 at the same clocks by a 5 fps gain or something (i forgot) but it looked like it was worth an upgrade. although now intel is limiting voltages. which is stupid. i'm waiting for denebs to come out before i can say amd lost. btw, amd has the best processors for around 100-150. after that, intel wins. you can get a black edition X3 8750
that can oc to 3.1-3.2.
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i have a q6600 stock and it runs everything flawless i could only understand the i7 if your running a p4 or maybe some dual cores or your a enthusiast
I guess if your going DDR3 i'd probably jump up to i7... but still.... its a waste of money for anyone with a Q6600 or better.

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most sites show the 920 matching the qx9770 at the same clocks by a 5 fps gain or something (i forgot) but it looked like it was worth an upgrade. although now intel is limiting voltages. which is stupid. i'm waiting for denebs to come out before i can say amd lost. btw, amd has the best processors for around 100-150. after that, intel wins. you can get a black edition X3 8750
that can oc to 3.1-3.2.
5FPS gain at 800x600 or 1280x1024. On those resolutions processors are used more. At 1920x1200 or 2560x1600 I bet there are little to no gains.

Those benchmarks are tricky


You'll show big gains in benchmarks, but overall gaming, unless your on a old monitor with a max res of 1280x1024.. Your not going to notice a diff.
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AMD won't go under for two reasons.....
A) distributors/retails/consumers want competition
B) Intel wants competition.

Yup, Intel needs AMD. Otherwise, Intel will be limited in where they can expand to in the future. Without AMD, Intel will be hit with monopoly allegations every time it tries to enter a new market.
Of course AMD won't go under. Someone will buy them if it ever gets that bad


There's also a need for competition
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Of course there is always VIA...but Intel likes AMD better.
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Of course there is always VIA...but Intel likes AMD better.
I don't think via will ever enter into the mainstream cpu line I know they have their low power cpus and their cpus for palms and crap but do you think you will ever see via enter minstrream cpu market i would say 5%chance in 50 years lol.
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Cyrix will arise from dark alleyway and kill everything. One day...
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Cyrix will arise from dark alleyway and kill everything. One day...
LOL omg as soon as I read cyrix old memories pop up... cryix 233mhz i used to play ultima online on... befor ea fugged it all up!

AWESOME!!!
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Originally Posted by sLowEnd View Post
Of course AMD won't go under. Someone will buy them if it ever gets that bad


There's also a need for competition
Correct me if I am wrong, but that would violate Intel's licensing agreement with AMD and they would have to start the processor from scratch without ANY Intel related IP.
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i have a q6600 stock and it runs everything flawless i could only understand the i7 if your running a p4 or maybe some dual cores or your a enthusiast

i7 is fail if you are primarily gaming, overclocking or both. If you do alot of rendering or things of that nature, however, i7 is pwnsauce, expect a large amount of i7's to show up at game developer and 3d modelling places worldwide.

For my intents and purposes, i7 is a flop and I'm not even going to consider it. I overclock, I game, and most importantly I don't have a very large budget. I don't have 1500 bucks to blow on mobo, cpu, ram when I can spend that much with AMD and get mobo, cpu, ram, hdd, odd, case, fans, coolers, gpu and OS, and still be able to overclock. :\\ Sorry Intel...If you want my money, shove a Core 2 under my nose...
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Of course, you have people like me that just can't stop buying crap from either one of them.
lol, thank you for this rant, I was terrified AMD was a goner
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amd will never go under. if they did intel would be the only cpu maker and would have a monoply, which is against the law.
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i7 is fail if you are primarily gaming, overclocking or both. If you do alot of rendering or things of that nature, however, i7 is pwnsauce, expect a large amount of i7's to show up at game developer and 3d modelling places worldwide.

For my intents and purposes, i7 is a flop and I'm not even going to consider it. I overclock, I game, and most importantly I don't have a very large budget. I don't have 1500 bucks to blow on mobo, cpu, ram when I can spend that much with AMD and get mobo, cpu, ram, hdd, odd, case, fans, coolers, gpu and OS, and still be able to overclock. : Sorry Intel...If you want my money, shove a Core 2 under my nose...


i agree with ya especially about price OMG and the gaming with sli and crossfire scaling i hear is amazing with i7 of course I don't use more then 1 graphics card just can't jsutify the money been spent!

Enthusiasts still want a i7 even if it was crap just to play with it and see what they can do with it. For them an i7 along with any new tech is like gold!
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nvidia will never go under. if they did intel would be the only cpu maker and would have a monoply, which is against the law.

Nvidia? I think you mean AMD
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