But we still don't know how they perform at these frequencies.
People seem to be forgetting that AMD was never about clock speed in the first place.
People seem to be forgetting that AMD was never about clock speed in the first place.
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And if the Core 2 Quad is faster (and cheaper), will you still get the Phenom?
Originally Posted by jonny1989 it could run at 100MHZ for all i care it had better beat intel,i plane on getting a Phenom x4 when they come out and it had better beat the hell out of anything intel. |
well.. following AMD's release of the Phenom, intel will be dropin the penryn lol..
its going to be an interesting end of summer for us computer Techies
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its going to be an interesting end of summer for us computer Techies
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Thats the idea behind fanboyism. He'll just be an angry fanboy.
Originally Posted by pauldovi And if the Core 2 Quad is faster (and cheaper), will you still get the Phenom? |
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Ya, like Paul isn't a fanboy...
Anyway, we all know that 3 GHz K8s killed 3 GHz, and even 4 GHz, Intels. Why care about clock speed now? If the speeds are comparable to K8 vs P4 (and I'm not saying they are) then new AMDs being under 2 GHz makes sense, seeing as Intel's fastest at stock is 2.66 GHz.
And don't pull out that same tired benchmark you always do, because it's really getting old.
You always say they aren't going to scale well because they're launching the low end at like 1.6 GHz and the High end is 2.0, and was originally planned to be 2.3 GHz... Well, when C2D came out, their slowest was 1.8 GHz, and their fastest was what, 2.66 GHz? And that chip was well over $1000.
Wait until the chip is out, real, reputable benchmarks are presented, and then we will know whether this 2.0 GHz Barcelona is a flop, or if AMD has done a great job with low clock speeds (comparatively) just like with K8...
Originally Posted by liermam Thats the idea behind fanboyism. He'll just be an angry fanboy. |
Anyway, we all know that 3 GHz K8s killed 3 GHz, and even 4 GHz, Intels. Why care about clock speed now? If the speeds are comparable to K8 vs P4 (and I'm not saying they are) then new AMDs being under 2 GHz makes sense, seeing as Intel's fastest at stock is 2.66 GHz.
And don't pull out that same tired benchmark you always do, because it's really getting old.
You always say they aren't going to scale well because they're launching the low end at like 1.6 GHz and the High end is 2.0, and was originally planned to be 2.3 GHz... Well, when C2D came out, their slowest was 1.8 GHz, and their fastest was what, 2.66 GHz? And that chip was well over $1000.
Wait until the chip is out, real, reputable benchmarks are presented, and then we will know whether this 2.0 GHz Barcelona is a flop, or if AMD has done a great job with low clock speeds (comparatively) just like with K8...
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The point is that they can't get out of the chips what they thought they could at this point. Even if it performs on par with the lower-end C2Ds and overclocks only mildly then I'll be happy because it means that competition continues.
Originally Posted by IcedEarth But we still don't know how they perform at these frequencies. People seem to be forgetting that AMD was never about clock speed in the first place. |
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Show me one place where I have demonstrated "fanboy" qualities.
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Core 2 Duo launched from 1.86Ghz to 2.66Ghz because that is all it needed to be the clear performance leader. Everyone knows the Core 2 Duo scales well. On July 26th we will have Core 2 Duo up to 3.0Ghz (1333Mhz FSB) and soon we will have the quad core at 3.0Ghz as well (Core 2 Extreme QX6850) The chip was $1000 because it was the fastest processor in the world. Remember when the FX60 cost $1000?
You do realize that K10 would have to be 50% faster clock for clock thant the Core 2 Quad to match its performance? (2.0Ghz vs 3.0Ghz)
Do you really see that happening when the pre-production benchmarks show it slower than Core 2 Quad clock for clock.
Originally Posted by pow3rtr1p Ya, like Paul isn't a fanboy... |
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Originally Posted by pow3rtr1p You always say they aren't going to scale well because they're launching the low end at like 1.6 GHz and the High end is 2.0, and was originally planned to be 2.3 GHz... Well, when C2D came out, their slowest was 1.8 GHz, and their fastest was what, 2.66 GHz? And that chip was well over $1000. Wait until the chip is out, real, reputable benchmarks are presented, and then we will know whether this 2.0 GHz Barcelona is a flop, or if AMD has done a great job with low clock speeds (comparatively) just like with K8... |
You do realize that K10 would have to be 50% faster clock for clock thant the Core 2 Quad to match its performance? (2.0Ghz vs 3.0Ghz)
Do you really see that happening when the pre-production benchmarks show it slower than Core 2 Quad clock for clock.
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If you want to accuse people of being fanboys then at least get your facts straight first. The $1000 processor was the C2D X6800 which ran at 2.93 GHz and had multipliers unlocked in both directions. Show me where the E6700 cost $1000.
Originally Posted by pow3rtr1p Well, when C2D came out, their slowest was 1.8 GHz, and their fastest was what, 2.66 GHz? And that chip was well over $1000. |
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Which is why I stated the top clock speed in the form of a question, because I wasn't positive.
And Paul, you have been an "AMD FTL!" type since about the day C2D came out and benchmarks showed it beat K8.
Originally Posted by stargate125645 If you want to accuse people of being fanboys then at least get your facts straight first. The $1000 processor was the C2D X6800 which ran at 2.93 GHz and had multipliers unlocked in both directions. Show me where the E6700 cost $1000. |
And Paul, you have been an "AMD FTL!" type since about the day C2D came out and benchmarks showed it beat K8.
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Grammar plz.
(grammar Nazi, HEIL!)
Originally Posted by Devon preach on brother Core 2 rocks. |
(grammar Nazi, HEIL!)
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Unfortunately, I don't think you are going to see that kind of scaling. If AMD cannot get it to launch at what they originally hoped for, I doubt it scales very well.
Originally Posted by mudd just think about this. the opty was clocked at a base speed of 1.8 GHz and can be overclocked to 3+ GHz.... maybe, just maaaaaybe you can take your 2 ghz phenom and put some juice to it.......and just maaaaybe you'll be able to hit 3 GHz. never know until they're release. but a man can dream can't he? |
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