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It's about time. Can you pool mine this coin? I think that would be a great leap forward for medical-based distributed computing because we could <strong>combine our computing resources to get larger work units done.</strong></div>
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<p>I don't think that's possible.</p>
 

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Soon it will be.. we will be streaming work units very soon. the folding development team at Stanford has been making leaps and bounds recently coming up with new cores for submitting work. It will be released soon hopefully but the concept is the work will be streamed instead of downloaded in entire chunks. So pretty soon we will be able to see smaller segment submissions. This will more-so be on the folding side so not so much a pool idea. but it does make it where there is much less lost work and much easier to monitor on the curecoin side of things.<br><br>
Also hear news of new API coming out aswell so there will be updated work more often with more statistics available. Stanford has and will continue to improve the folding structure. There will be new updates coming from the pool and the curecoin development team aswell. With the new power coming into stanfords boinc i am sure this will spark some interest at there University attracting more students to the program aswell as scientists. Improvements from both ends will make this coin continue to grow for some time to come.
 

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That's amazing news man, glad I hopped onto this...I missed folding, a lot.<br>
I owe it to my former team mates, who got me into this and taught me a lot.
 

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Don't see it. i see that you download FAH and start folding. And then sign up at a pool to get paid.<br><br>
And what's the point of mining via ASICs? May as well have them just mine the already existing coins and just pay the folders with that. I don't see why they gotta double the man power to make this work. Why can't they make it so that you fold while you mine?</div>
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Yeah I'm one of the first 20 people to post in their original ANN I believe. I was skeptic then, and I'm still skeptical now.<br><br>
No I don't think they're getting financial incentives from a 3rd party for the folding efforts. Personally I feel like they're just taking advantage of [email protected] to generate the hype. They're just going to sell their coins and the bigger the hype, the more BTC's they'll get from it.<br><br>
I feel like they're just learning from the experience of Primecoin. It was so hyped up that it slowly fell unlike the other coins that falls in value quickly when created. But in the end all they did was make a mine-able coin and not go anywhere with it. They didn't go mainstream with it or anything. It's just mine and dump, mine and dump.<br><br>
I feel like that's all curecoin is going to be. Just like all these other coins out there. They're not going do anything with it except just be listed on an exchange for selling. People are going to buy it and fold for it just for the hype of it. But what can they do but sell it? Nothing. It's just another coin that the creators created so that they can make money off the hype for a longer period of time than just creating yet another animal or joke coin that everyone else is doing.<br><br>
Nobody is making new coins so that it becomes an actual currency. They're just all making coins to get some easy BTC's.</div>
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What's the problem with having a lot of coins for different purposes?<br><a class="spoiler-link H-spoiler-toggle" href="#"><strong>Warning: Spoiler!</strong> <span class="spoiler-help">(Click to show)</span></a><div class="spoiler-hidden">It's a way to generate money to pay the folders with, that's it...and it's a proof of concept as well.<br>
Coin can be forked, and new features implemented to the original code if need be, what's important is Stanford's support, and the dev team, which is really capable.<br><br>
Primecoin generates a few different prime number chains, that's it...Can't compare that to generating an incentive for people to fold!!!<br><br>
Come on, Curecoin is the number 1 team in the world right now, and it took 3 days since launch. Give credit where credit is due <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"></div>
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They're not for different purposes though are they? They're all for 1 purpose: exchange for BTC. They all have their different themes but for a single purpose. And those that promised to have other purposes, don't follow through.<br><br>
I am glad that this is generating an interest towards folding. I bet most of which are people leaving other folding teams to join this one though but that besides the point. What I fear, is that people are just going to fold, get paid and dump... fold, get paid and dump. The value of the coin is only going to drop to the point where people will just stop and move onto a different coin, just like with all the other coins.<br><br>
But if they make the coins usable other than dumping at an exchange, then great. But I'm not getting my hopes up anymore because no one ever follow through that.
 

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I personally think this should replace bitcoin. Just my opinion but it could really happen to. Theres no reason to mine bitcoin other then to get bitcoins. At least mining cure helps support the network. Folding for cure helps save lives.. So all in all its a better use of the power by far. I added some information to the OP on the power consumption of bitcoin and its wastefulness. Maybe that will help <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif">.
 

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Plus, all those sha256 asics could go to curecoin. <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"><br><br>
Hey, spread the word: <a href="http://www.curecoin.us/index.php?topic=3510.0" target="_blank">http://www.curecoin.us/index.php?topic=3510.0</a><br><br>
The logo is ok, at best, we can raise some funds for that. I'll be donating a few coins.
 

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So let me get this right.. the only thing different here from standard folding is that we change teams and get coins.<br><br>
So in theory, if you already fold then why would this be an issue..?
 

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Just joined the pool <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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Same passkey and user...that's it.
 

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It's about time! Been wondering when this was going to happen. Looks like I'm folding again!<br><br><img alt="band.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/band.gif">
 

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I understand but I've still got this "I've got a bad feeling about this" feeling. I really think they should focus more on making it so that it's folding while you're mining.<br><br>
Instead they spent all their energy into creating yet another coin to mine with an already existing algorithm to pay people for folding on their team. Probably didn't even take much. Probably just yet another copy.</div>
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Just catching up but I agree.<br><br>
Why can't this coin just substitute Folding Wu's for hashing wu's?<br><br>
Stanford [email protected] devs need to address this.<br><br>
Is Panda in control here?
 

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Just catching up but I agree.<br><br>
Why can't this coin just substitute Folding Wu's for hashing wu's?<br><br>
Stanford [email protected] devs need to address this.<br><br>
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You can't substitute Folding for Hashing because calculating the folding of a protein is not the same as calculating the digits on a long series of text....<br>
Stanford does not need to address anything, they are not directly working on the CureCoin Project, they are just the ones benefiting from the CureCoins existance...<br>
Also moving it over to something 'hashable' would make is so pool hoppers would jump on, which would just be bad for everyone involved. WU take a lot of time to finish; when people move off the coin and leave an unfinished WU it hurts the research.
 

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You can't substitute Folding for Hashing because calculating the folding of a protein is not the same as calculating the digits on a long series of text....<br>
Stanford does not need to address anything, they are not directly working on the CureCoin Project, they are just the ones benefiting from the CureCoins existance...<br>
Also moving it over to something 'hashable' would make is so pool hoppers would jump on, which would just be bad for everyone involved. WU take a lot of time to finish; when people move off the coin and leave an unfinished WU it hurts the research.</div>
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Wow, I think you need to think about this again. There is NO reason the folding calculation cannot replace a simple hashing algorithm.<br><br>
And yes A WU takes alot of time so what? The market always levels out if it bothers you that you will only get a few coins if 1 coin == PPD then add a multiplier.<br><br>
Simple... seriously simple.
 

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Wow, I think you need to think about this again. There is NO reason the folding calculation cannot replace a simple hashing algorithm.<br><br>
And yes A WU takes alot of time so what? The market always levels out if it bothers you that you will only get a few coins if 1 coin == PPD then add a multiplier.<br><br>
Simple... seriously simple.</div>
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Do you understand how the different proof of work methods work for other coins?<br><br>
You can't work on closed source Stanford code either, so your point is moot.
 

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Wow, I think you need to think about this again. There is NO reason the folding calculation cannot replace a simple hashing algorithm.<br><br>
And yes A WU takes alot of time so what? The market always levels out if it bothers you that you will only get a few coins if 1 coin == PPD then add a multiplier.<br><br>
Simple... seriously simple.</div>
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<br><span style="text-decoration:line-through;">There are all sorts of reasons, the problem is you decided you were 'right' before you understood the process. Now you are stuck trying to defend a position that is inaccurate at best. Stop making conclusions before you even understand what folding is. My point about WU taking a lot of time is that pool jumpers who are only concerned with maximizing profit (such as yourself) would do a lot of harm to the stanford university by leaving unfinished Work units. 1 coin = 1 PPD describes your misunderstanding for the process completely. And yes, it is quite simple... If you would just listen and take the information in.</span><br><br>
Edit: The development of a streaming WU would solve some of the issues, but like I stated earlier: Stanford is not working on this coin, the only thing they are 'doing' is receiving the benefits from the coins existing. With work units taking a significant amount of time there is no desire to have pool hoppers on board with the project, they would do more harm than good by leaving unfinished Work Units that would have to be resubmitted down the line. Like I stated earlier as well, there is a HUGE difference between the process in solving the work for Protein folding and the process of solving a long series of text by hashing. I don't know how else I could 'rethink this' but it seems that I have thought it through quite well. Please, by all means if I am missing something please explain thoroughly and describe how it is that we could 'hash' this work out using any current hashing algo. Thanks!
 

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Meh, curocoin is way too beta. If you can't get the coins in within 48hours then your solution has problems and secondly you can't even get this naming convention working if you have a "-" there. Now, I wonder if you're going to flag this post?<br><br>
No "implied swearing" there mate, just simple truth.
 

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Meh, curocoin is way too beta. If you can't get the coins in within 48hours then your solution has problems and secondly you can't even get this naming convention working if you have a "-" there. Now, I wonder if you're going to flag this post?<br><br>
No "implied swearing" there mate, just simple truth.</div>
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i highly disagree with the first part of your statement although i have no idea what the end is referring to...<br><br>
The problem is miners who think they need there coins within 24 hours or even 2 hours.. If you truely care about a coin and plan on dedicating your time and effort to it. then you will mine for more then the time needed and start gaining a steady flow. I currently get curecoin everyday now and I dont mind the delay because its null after a few days. So why does it matter? It matters to people like you who are just mining to dump.<br><br>
I like the delay asside from the gathering of people in IRC whining about it.<br><br>
Also you must dedicate yourself to folding in order to gain coins. You cant just fold for a day and expect good results. You have to submit multiple WU to get steady points (only base payout initially).<br><br>
Personally in total I think this is a system that was unintentionally designed perfectly to gather and keep the people that join. Nothing but good for the future of curecoin check the stats. Upward trend continues day after day.<br><br>
Also sitting #1 on what-to-mine aswell as the price is trending upwards after some early fluctations.<br><br>
Don't forget to vote on mintpal guys! Every vote counts!
 

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Link: <a href="https://www.mintpal.com/voting" target="_blank">https://www.mintpal.com/voting</a><br><br>
1 free vote per hour, 0.001btc each paid vote.<br><br>
Not a bad investment if it helps the coin get to bigger audiences and investors.
 

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Ok so I've been thinking about this for a while and even though I know very little about curecoin, and the whole mining industry in general...<br><br>
I still want to invest in this idea,simply for the reason that the "you're helping a cure" folding mentality is combined with this mining craze. I think it has potential...would we call this a penny stock?<br><br>
My main question is, let's say I have 1000 dollars to throw at it. Would my money be obviously better invested by buying coins outright in the market? Or better invested buying GPU(s)?<br><br>
My second question is, is this a special type of stock, or will any broker exchange usd for it? How does it become actual dollars exactly?<br><br>
I know the questions are really noob. I've always wanted to get into it but never understood it enough. Never really understood what this super-computer network was "processing" in the first place. But if we're after a cure, it's just the push I needed to start...maybe it will be someone else's too.<br><br>
Thanks for the help in advance.
 

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Meh, curocoin is way too beta. If you can't get the coins in within 48hours then your solution has problems and secondly you can't even get this naming convention working if you have a "-" there. Now, I wonder if you're going to flag this post?<br><br>
No "implied swearing" there mate, just simple truth.</div>
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i highly disagree with the first part of your statement although i have no idea what the end is referring to...<br><br>
The problem is miners who think they need there coins within 24 hours or even 2 hours..</div>
If you truely care about a coin and plan on dedicating your time and effort to it. then you will mine for more then the time needed and start gaining a steady flow. I currently get curecoin everyday now and I dont mind the delay because its null after a few days. So why does it matter? It matters to people like you who are just mining to dump.
<a class="spoiler-link H-spoiler-toggle" href="#"><strong>Warning: Spoiler!</strong> <span class="spoiler-help">(Click to show)</span></a><div class="spoiler-hidden">I like the delay asside from the gathering of people in IRC whining about it.<br><br>
Also you must dedicate yourself to folding in order to gain coins. You cant just fold for a day and expect good results. You have to submit multiple WU to get steady points (only base payout initially).<br><br>
Personally in total I think this is a system that was unintentionally designed perfectly to gather and keep the people that join. Nothing but good for the future of curecoin check the stats. Upward trend continues day after day.<br><br>
Also sitting #1 on what-to-mine aswell as the price is trending upwards after some early fluctations.<br><br>
Don't forget to vote on mintpal guys! Every vote counts!</div>
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Is there another use for curecoins other than exchanging it for BTC's?
 
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