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Any old Linux heads still around?

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Life kinda threw me some curveballs and my time for hobbies has basically been null until recently. I know Shrak (and myself) more or less dropped off the forum shortly after the Huddler move.
(coming back now, I can see this was a wise decision. The intrusive advertisement placement and lack of proper functionality for the forum is kind of sad.)

This forum seems pretty inactive, so maybe we can all say hello again to give it some life?
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I used to be more active many moons ago... now check in every month or so.
 

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Old enough to necro this year old thread. Been on Linux 21 years, and 18 of those on Slackware... and old enough (and non PC enough) to wish all Merry Christmas and especially A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 

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Old enough to necro this year old thread. Been on Linux 21 years, and 18 of those on Slackware... and old enough (and non PC enough) to wish all Merry Christmas and especially A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
and he runs it all on a toaster too! :p

I pop in from time to time to see whats going on, just don't have a lot of times these days. I still run linux as my daily driver (tried windows 10 + wsl and wsl2 for awhile, but its just wasn't the same). I'm currently been running POP!_OS, I like it a lot.

I thought about buying a system 76 pangolin when i needed a new laptop, but they weren't out yet, so i got a sager laptop (basically a pagolin as they are both the same modeled clevo) and put pop on it. thinking of figuring out how to put coreboot on it, but kinda iffy on that atm. but the laptop runs really solid on it, and with a few tweaks here and there, i can get pretty decent battery life, around 5 to 6 hours, but i don't really go mobile with it.
 

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Still ricing on my secondary, dual-bootin since 2004. Excitedly awaiting release of 470 NVidia drivers on Linux.
 

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I'm not as read up these days on the latest nvidia prop drivers, what is exciting about 'em?
For those stuck with NVidia GPUs and want to use Wayland, all 3D rendering is currently being done on CPU with a software driver. With Fedora 34 going with Wayland as default, it forced NVidia to pick up their game and actually write some code, so 3D rendering will be done on their hardware and maintain performance. It's taken 10 years to get NVidia to move, and do anything meaningful for Wayland. EGLStreams was half-assed and partially only works for desktop rendering, because it wasn't really a response to anything in particular. This time, DMA-BUF is their reaction to being left behind.
 

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For those stuck with NVidia GPUs and want to use Wayland, all 3D rendering is currently being done on CPU with a software driver. With Fedora 34 going with Wayland as default, it forced NVidia to pick up their game and actually write some code, so 3D rendering will be done on their hardware and maintain performance. It's taken 10 years to get NVidia to move, and do anything meaningful for Wayland. EGLStreams was half-assed and partially only works for desktop rendering, because it wasn't really a response to anything in particular. This time, DMA-BUF is their reaction to being left behind.
I dunno, i don't really blame nvidia for not supporting wayland all these years. I've been using wayland on my laptops for the last few years, its not quite up to snuff imho.

Ubuntu 21.04 is going with wayland (again) too, nvidia wouldn't want to miss out on that install base.

I'm more eager to check out gnome 4.0 than wayland again, but that is gonna have to wait, there are too many gnome plugins i rely on and those will have to be updated before i jump into that pond.

any info on when the 470 drivers gonna be released?
 

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Should be dropping any day now. Fedora 34 beta is out already. Sounds like Ubuntu 21.04 beta should be out already also.

A 465 driver was released for better WSL support and gpu passthrough recently, if that's any indicator.
 

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The NVidia XWayland work can be tracked here (where 470 was first mentioned):
nice.

I installed manjaro on a secondary m.2 i had laying around, installed plasma 5.21 and the egl-wayland package (along with editing grub for the kernel mode setting for nvidia) and it was a very unpleasant experience. half my apps would just launch with a black screen and i had no window decorations...I guess i will wait for 470 before trying again, but i will say this plasma 5.21 is extremely nice, so much so, that i might just be replacing gnome with it. last time i truely used KDE was back in the 4.x days and everytime there were serious issues (mostly crashes or just really strange behavior) but plasma 5.21 at least, seems to have fixed all the previous problems i had with kde plasma. still not quite the glory days of KDE 3, but man is it nice.

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currently have it configured in the "unity" look (I had been using unity/gnome in this configuration for so long, its almost impossible for me to go back to something else, i even struggle with windows taskbar lol).
 

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Plasma 5 has been a decent experience for me as well, enough so that when I left Gnome 2 a few years ago, I never looked back. Once Gnome 40 is available for Gentoo, I will install it beside Plasma 5 though and try it out. With QT taking the high commercial road, it would be good to have a fully open-source alternative to fall back on.

I also have black screens in various applications, like Firefox. I believe this is due to the software rendering backend not implementing some needed features.
 

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With QT taking the high commercial road, it would be good to have a fully open-source alternative to fall back on.
Oh i don't think KDE is going any where anytime soon, even if the QT company does something stupid like make new versions proprietary with no dual licensing.

Once Gnome 40 is available for Gentoo, I will install it beside Plasma 5 though and try it out.
I've been trying out the livecd of it from time to time over the last few months (since they released the beta), its a lot like the 3 series. they moved the dock to be on the bottom of the screen, and made working with desktops easier/faster, but other than that it still feels a lot like 3. it seems more fulfill the original promises of 3 than anything, not a huge change like 3 was.

I dunno, as long KDE plasma 5 keeps up what they are doing, i think i might just be jumping ship. I like gnome's notifications better than KDE's, and some of the plugins/widgets for KDE are inferior (like the temp/weather widgets), but the system tray and the panel's being editable and me choosing the order the widgets show up, is far superior than gnome's. Plus i haven't had much problems getting my mic working (usually a pita in gnome) and kde remembers which audio device i'm using, where i gnome i always have to set it (as i switch between my wired headphones, hdmi audio and my bluetooth headset), so that is another plus.

I think i like nautilus more than i do dolphin and i def like gedit more than kate (but i'm not sure if it is worth bringing in a large portion of gnome just for gedit).
 

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Heya Transhour ol' buddy! Since you're trying out Live Distros maybe check this out. The link is for a number of Live versions with differing WM/DEs but there is also and elsewhere (but by the same AlienaBob) a dedicated DAW live system that is really great if you do any Audio-Video deep work. All of these on the below linked page are ~Current which is stage 2 beta now for the somewhat imminent v15.

These are not "first one's free" "stick a toe in" live distros. These are extremely full-featured as well as featuring persistence. They all employ v5x kernels and all you need to login first time is Username: Live Password: Live. I think you just might be quite surprised. I'm almost certain you will also be impressed. They are really excellent. Anyway for some educational serious fun try one or more of these

Index of /latest

Plasma 5.21 or Gnome-based? No prob!

Best wishes for you and your twin Sis :)
 

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Heya Transhour ol' buddy! Since you're trying out Live Distros maybe check this out
a bit has changed since my last post. I almost died and bought a m1 mac mini...so i've gone to the darkside.

the jury is still out on mac os, hardware wise this is a little monster, software however...it feels like it is missing something. mac os feels like it is several years behind, even windows. hopefully distro's start rolling out m1 spins sooner rather than later, cause like i said the hardware on this little thing is blowing away my ryzen 3700x desktop and 4700u laptop away. I was compiling something the other night, the cpu was almost at a 100% utilization and the temp of the cpu never peaked above 50c and the fan never kicked on or got louder. my desktop/laptop doing the same thing, would easily hit over 80c, so apple def has the winner there with thermals.
 

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Pretty cool... both literally and figuratively :) I'm not a Mac hater like so many seem to be but I can't get past all the proprietary crap especially when it's viewed as vulgar to "look under the hood". I have a cousin who writes for several Mac magazines, does hardware reviews and the like, and when he showed me his rig the first thing I did was open a terminal. He exclaimed" What is THAT?!? I thought I'd seen every app on this box."

Incidentally my roommate is a MacBook user and was experiencing awful slowdowns and asked me for help. After futzing around a bit I asked her if it was OK to boot up Slackware Live Linux from a flashdrive. It ran great and REALLY fast as well and greatly aided repairing the stock OpSys. I don't know for certain if all the Live versions have kernels with the Apple File System driver enabled but this version did.

Anyway, best wishes mate.
 

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XWayland is hardware-accelerated now with NVidia! Some fullscreen games/apps still show black screen, but windowed is all working. Even Firefox with WebRender is fully working in Wayland. I'm this close to dumping X11.
 

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I am excited about Wayland but Ima wait a year or three before I dump X11. Since I boot to Runlevel 3 which, in Slackware is Multi-User Command Line and then launch SDDM ( a display manager, login chooser) I can pock between at least 9 WM/DEs including 2 versions of Wayland. So I will keep checking it out, maybe contribute some bug reports, but my daily driver will be X11 I'm predicting for at least a year.

Good luck, mouacyk !
 

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Wayland is no where near prime time. Even worse, individual applications need Wayland support as well.
 

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For casual gamers and users, wayland should be quite usable now, even on NVidia. As of kwin-5.22 and recent revision of 470 driver, windowed xwayland gaming is working quite well. Fullscreen gaming still results in blackscreen, but is reportedly working in git versions of kwin. Currently, there are issues with widevine in Firefox, even though the browser is fully accelerated now with WebRender. Some chromium-based apps like vscode don't render at all.

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