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<a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--logo.png" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--logo.png" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--logo.png"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Table of Contents</span></b><br><br><span style="font-family:courier;"><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_21188827">01. 2013-NOV-13: First Hardware Testing & The Noctua NH-U9DX 1366</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_21202531">02. 2013-NOV-16: Temporary Ghetto Setup, OS Installed</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_22042818">03. 2014-APR-01: PSU Mounting & LSI Controller Ghetto Test</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-24-disks-capacity-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_22045804">04. 2014-APR-02: The Disk Racks</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-24-disks-capacity-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_22079815">05. 2014-APR-08: Chipset Cooling & Adventures in Instability</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-24-disks-capacity-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_22085853">06. 2014-APR-09: Disk Ventilation</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-24-disks-capacity-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_22096775">07. 2014-APR-11: Fan Unit for Main Compartment Ventilation</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-24-disks-capacity-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_22101845">08. 2014-APR-12: Storage Topology & Cabling</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-24-disks-capacity-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_22177739">09. 2014 APR-26: Storage and Networking Performance</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-24-disks-capacity-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_22245033">09. 2014-MAY-10: Sound Dampening & Final Pics</a><br></span><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Wait, What, and Why?</span></b><br><br>
So, yeah, another build. Another server, to be precise. Why? Well, as nice of a<br>
system ZEUS is, it does have two major shortcomings for its use as a server.<br><br>
When I originally conceived ZEUS, I did not plan on using ZFS (since it was not<br>
yet production-ready on Linux at that point). The plan was to use ZEUS' HDDs as<br>
single disks, backing up the important stuff. In case of a disk failure, the<br>
loss of non-backed up data would have been acceptable, since it's mostly media<br>
files. As long as there's an index of what was on the disk, that data could<br>
easily be reaquired.<br><br>
But right before ZEUS was done, I found out that ZFS was production-ready on<br>
Linux, having kept a bit of an eye on it since fall 2012 when I dabbled in<br>
FreeBSD and ZFS for the first time. Using FreeBSD on the server was not an<br>
option though since I was nowhere near proficient enough with it to use it for<br>
something that important, so it had to be Linux (that's why I didn't originally<br>
plan on ZFS).<br><br>
So, I deployed ZFS on ZEUS, and it's been working very nicely so far. However,<br>
that brought with it two major drawbacks: Firstly, I was now missing 5 TB of<br>
space, since I had been tempted by ZFS to use those for redundancy, even for our<br>
media files. Secondly, and more importantly, ZEUS is not an ECC-memory-capable<br>
system. The reason this might be a problem is that when ZFS verifies the data on<br>
the disks, a corrupted bit in your RAM could cause a discrepancy between the<br>
data in memory and the data on disk, in which case ZFS would "correct" the data<br>
on your disk, therefore corrupting it. This is not exactly optimal IMO. How<br>
severe the consequences of this would be in practice is an ongoing debate in<br>
various ZFS threads I've read. Optimists estimate that it would merely corrupt<br>
the file(s) with the concerned corrupt bit(s), pessimists are afraid it might<br>
corrupt your entire pool.<br><br><br>
The main focus of this machine will be:<br><ul class="bbcode_list"><li>room to install more disks over time</li>
<li>ECC-RAM capable</li>
<li>not ridiculously expensive</li>
<li>low-maintenance, high reliability and availability (within reason, it's still<br>
a home and small business server)</li>
</ul><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Hardware</span></b><br><br>
The component choices as they stand now:<br><ul class="bbcode_list"><li><b>M/B:</b> Supermicro X8DT3-LN4F</li>
<li><b>RAM:</b> 12 GB ECC DDR3-1333 (Hynix)</li>
<li><b>CPUs:</b> 2 x Intel L5630 Quad Cores, 40 W TDP each</li>
<li><b>Cooling:</b> 2 x Noctua NH-UD9X 1366 (yes, air cooling! <img alt="redface.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/redface.gif"> )</li>
<li><b>Cooling:</b> A few nice server double ball bearing San Ace fans will also<br>
be making an appearance.</li>
<li><b>Case:</b> InWin PP689 (will be modded to fit more HDDs than in stock config)</li>
<li><b>Other:</b> TBD</li>
</ul><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Modding</span></b><br><br>
Instead of some uber-expensive W/C setup, the main part of actually building<br>
this rig will be in modifying the PP689 for fitting as many HDDs as halfway<br>
reasonable as neatly as possible. I have not yet decided if there will be<br>
painting and/or sleeving and/or a window. A window is unlikely, the rest depends<br>
mostly on how much time I'll have in the next few weeks (this is not a long-term<br>
project, aim is to have it done way before HELIOS).<br><br>
Also, since costs for this build should not spiral out of control, I will be<br>
trying to reuse as many scrap and spare parts I have laying around as possible.<br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Teaser</span></b><br><br>
More pics will follow as parts arrive and the build progresses, for now a shot of the<br>
case:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-07--01--pp689.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-07--01--pp689.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-07--01--pp689.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
That's all for now, thanks for stopping by, and so long. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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<b><span style="font-size:24px;">First Steps</span></b><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Hardware Tested</span></b><br><br>
M/B, CPUs and memory have all arrived. The CPUs and M/B seem to be working OK.<br>
One of the memory modules seems to be having a bit of trouble being recognized,<br>
the other five work fine. I'll see if it's really defective or if it's just the<br>
IT gods screwing with me a bit.<br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">The Noctua NH9DX 1366</span></b><br><br>
The Noctua NH-U9DX 1366 is a cooler from Noctua's series specifically made for<br>
Xeon sockets. For those who don't know, LGA1366 sockets have an integrated<br>
backplate, just like LGA2011, which makes them much more convenient than their<br>
desktop counterparts. It's quite a nice and sturdy backplate, too, in fact it's<br>
among the most solid backplates I've come across yet. This does, however,<br>
require a slightly different mounting system. You just have four screws which<br>
you bolt directly into the plate.<br><br>
Aside from that, the cooler is identical to its desktop counterpart as far as I<br>
know. Why the 92 mm version? For one thing, it was in stock, unlike the 120 mm<br>
version of this cooler. Also, the CPUs only produce 40 W TDP each, so there<br>
really is no need for high-end cooling. And as a bonus, I got supplied some<br>
awesome San Ace fans with my case, which also happen to be 92 mm.<br><br>
The Noctua fans which come with the cooler are just 3 pin fans (the newer models<br>
of this cooler for LGA2011 come with a PWM fan I think), but the San Ace fans I<br>
got with my case are actually PWM controlled! Since the M/B has a full set of<br>
PWM headers (8, to be exact, how awesome is that!? <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"> ) I will try the San Ace<br>
fans and see how they play on lower rpm's (they run at 4,800 rpm on full speed<br><img alt="redface.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/redface.gif"> ). This does not need to be a super-silent machine since it will be in its<br>
own room, and since I really like the San Ace fans with regards to build quality<br>
(and I'm a total sucker for build quality) I'd love to use them for this. The<br>
Noctuas would admitteldy be better suited, but I'll see how things go with the<br>
SA's first.<br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:12px;">The Box</span></b><br><br>
Unlike its shiny desktop counterparts, the NH-U9DX comes in a nice and subtle<br>
(but sturdy) cardbord box with a simple sticker on it. I must admit I like this<br>
box more than the shiny ones. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--01--noctua-box.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-14--01--noctua-box.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--01--noctua-box.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:12px;">Contents</span></b><br><br>
How it looks packaged...<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--02--noctua-contents.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-14--02--noctua-contents.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--02--noctua-contents.jpeg"></a><br><br>
... and out in the open.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--03--noctua-contents.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-14--03--noctua-contents.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--03--noctua-contents.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:12px;">Noctua Pr0n</span></b><br><br>
A few glory shots of the cooler itself...<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--04--noctua-pr0n.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-14--04--noctua-pr0n.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--04--noctua-pr0n.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--05--noctua-pr0n.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-14--05--noctua-pr0n.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--05--noctua-pr0n.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:12px;">The San Ace 9G0912P1G09</span></b><br><br>
There is no info about this fan on the web, I'm presuming it's something San Ace<br>
makes specifically for InWin in an OEM deal.<br><br>
I've hooked it up to a fan controller and got a max reading of 4,800 rpm, and<br>
the Supermicro board turns them down to ~2,200 rpm on idle. They seem to be very<br>
good fans, you can only really hear the sound of the air moving, no bearing or<br>
motor noises so far. Also, they are heavy (~200 g per piece), which is always<br>
nice for a build quality fetishist such as myself. <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br><b>Note</b>: Hooking such a fan up to a desktop board as its power source would not be<br>
advisable, they are rated for 1.1 A and might burn out the circuits on a desktop<br>
board. Server boards usually have better fan power circuitry since they are<br>
desinged with high-performance fans in mind. Just as a side note.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--06--san-ace-92.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-14--06--san-ace-92.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--06--san-ace-92.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Compared to the Noctua fan which comes with the coolers. I might still go with<br>
the Noctuas, but it's not the plan at the moment.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--07--san-ace-noctua-92.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-14--07--san-ace-noctua-92.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--07--san-ace-noctua-92.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:12px;">The Noctua NH-U9DX 1366 San Ace Edition</span></b><br><br>
I had to improvise a bit with mounting the San Ace's to the tower. The clips<br>
which you'd use with the Noctua fans rely on the fan having open corners, which<br>
the San Ace's do not. Ah well, nothing a bit of cotton cord can't fix. <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--08--noctua-san-ace-mounting.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-14--08--noctua-san-ace-mounting.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--08--noctua-san-ace-mounting.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
And the current config in its full glory:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--09--noctua-nh-u9dx-san-ace-edition.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-14--09--noctua-nh-u9dx-san-ace-edition.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-14--09--noctua-nh-u9dx-san-ace-edition.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Side note: The coolers were actually more expensive than the CPUs. :lol:<br><br><br>
That's it for now, thanks for stopping by.
 

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Subbed for another build from you man...<br>
Great work <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>barkinos98</strong> <a href="/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_21198835"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
Subbed for another build from you man...<br>
Great work <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"></div>
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Thanks, I appreciate that! <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
I got the RAM Thursday and the rig has passed several rounds of memtest by now, so I think<br>
the hardware is OK. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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<b><span style="font-size:24px;">Up and Running, Ghetto Style</span></b><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Hardware Validation</span></b><br><br>
I've put the system together temporarily to validate the M/B, CPU and memory, so<br>
far all seems good. A minimal Arch Linux setup has been installed and is<br>
successfully running BOINC at the moment. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><b>EDIT:</b><br>
I'm not running BOINC <b>as</b> a hardware validation tool, that's not what it's<br>
designed to do. I have (mostly) validated the hardware and am now just running<br>
BOINC.<br><br>
Just to clarify. <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"><br><b>/EDIT</b><br><br>
Gotta love low-power CPUs, core temps after about an hour of running BOINC on<br>
all cores are:<br>
31 C, 31 C, 35 C, 30 C,<br>
32 C, 26 C, 29 C, 31 C<br><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-16--02--boinc.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-16--02--boinc.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-16--02--boinc.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Feast on the Ghetto-ness!</span></b><br><br>
Yeah... <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2013-11-16--01--ghetto-setup.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2013-11-16--01--ghetto-setup.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2013-11-16--01--ghetto-setup.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Next Up</span></b><br><br>
I'll need to order some supplies for modding the front part of the case for more<br>
HDDs. Still not sure if I'll paint it. Can't paint it in the apartment, and<br>
temps in my workshop in the basement have dropped significantly since we now<br>
have just a few degrees above freezing outside, so conditions for spray painting<br>
are not optimal at all at the moment.
 

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Would you know any sites/ pages that I could find some good info on the whole server topic. I have a very faint idea of the whole thing but the specifics are something that I'm keen on studying. You seem to know your way around servers and wanted to ask where you acquired your knowledge.<br><br>
Also I'll be having a look at this interesting build too.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Jakewat</strong> <a href="/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_21277810"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
Would you know any sites/ pages that I could find some good info on the whole server topic. I have a very faint idea of the whole thing but the specifics are something that I'm keen on studying. You seem to know your way around servers and wanted to ask where you acquired your knowledge.<br><br>
Also I'll be having a look at this interesting build too.</div>
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<br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.servethehome.com/" target="_blank">Servethehome</a> has some nice articles. They don't just look at the latest and greatest hardware, but also<br>
stuff of interest to the home server enthusiast which you can get on eBay for cheaps (similar to the components<br>
for this build). Also, just googling around for specific questions I might have.<br><br>
Aside from that I have also found browsing the catalogues of server hardware vendors very helpful (Supermicro,<br>
Tyan, Asus, LSI, Intel). It gives you a general idea of what components are available for what platform, and when<br>
you find something that might be of interest to you, you can do more research on that specific part via Google and<br>
see if you can get it on eBay (it can be kind of tricky to find the right stuff on eBay with generic searches such as<br>
'lga 1366 server board' or something like that, lots of stuff gets missed which you only find with specific searches<br>
such as 'Supermicro X8DT3' etc., you get the idea).<br><br>
TBH though it's not all that complex, it's more about getting yourself acquainted with product lines which aren't<br>
that known to the normal user (so, for example, finding out what kind of Xeons are available for the LGA1366<br>
socket and which ones might be right for your needs), the procedure is pretty much the same as when a new<br>
desktop product line is launched. The primary caveat is of course that info (reviews etc.) is more difficult to find,<br>
sometimes even downright impossible, so you need to rely much more on spec sheets, manuals and the<br>
occasional tidbit to find out whether or not some component (say, a M/B) is right for you. The nice part about<br>
pro-grade hardware is that the documentation is often pretty good (for example, Supermicro's manual for my<br>
motherboard has been very helpful), so you can often get a good idea of a product's capabilities by doing some<br>
careful reading.<br><br>
As for the software side of things (which could be argued to be the more important aspect): I've been using exclusively<br>
Linux for quite a few years now (not to sound elitist, it's just a statement of fact <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif">), and for most server-like tasks<br>
there are some pretty decent resources available for Linux (I'm assuming for Win Server as well, but I'm not up-<br>
to-date on that front), so usually I just have a look at the Arch Wiki, and if it's not in there I look around google<br>
and Youtube to see if there are any tutorials available for what I wish to do (for instance, setting up a DHCP<br>
server on my machine, although I'm not yet sure if I'll actually do that). On a side note: That's also pretty cool<br>
about server-grade hardware: Good Linux support. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
Then there remains the topic of networking and security, for which I have found <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.youtube.com/user/elithecomputerguy" target="_blank">Eli the Computer Guy</a>'s channel<br>
very helpful. Although I've only just started to delve deeper into that side of things, so there's still lots to learn.<br><br>
For example, I recently did some research on Cisco since, for one thing, we have one of their routers, and secondly,<br>
I was thinking about buying a managed switch from them. Then I found out that they'd done backdoor firmware<br>
updates for a few of their router series and have been involved in quite a few controversies (for example, they<br>
seem to have been helping China build its great firewall). There are also rumours that they've been helping<br>
the NSA with their snooping around (say, sending info about their routers' users browsing and downloading<br>
habits to the man?), although I must say that these are just rumours and I haven't been able to find anything<br>
definite on that topic.<br><br>
Still, I'm paranoid enough that this has motivated me to avoid prebuilt closed-source networking equipment<br>
and now I want to implement my own solution to make sure my equipment only really does what I actually<br>
tell it to do. However, I'm not yet far along in my research (and finances <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif">) to implement something proper in<br>
that regard. But yeah, I feel an urge to get rid of my Cisco router/access point and build my own equipment,<br>
for which there remains a significant amount of work to do.<br><br><br>
Sorry for the long post, but that's what I do, apparently <img alt="rolleyes.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif"><br><br>
Cheers,<br>
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The long posts are what separates you from most other forumers, which IMO is a good thing, not many people have the time and patience to do what you do and should be appreciated.<br>
Anyway, thanks for the info. I will be sure to do a bit of research on the matter and as I have done to gain my knowledge of desktops, watch, read, and scroll through info <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif">.
 

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Hehe, thanks, it's nice to see one's efforts appreciated. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
Have fun! <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 

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On the more casual side of home servers you might want to check out <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.wegotserved.com/" target="_blank">WeGotServed.com</a> - you won't find much detail on larger, more targeted server builds and apps on there (definitely more home-based than enterprise) but if you're looking for a solution for personal cloud, media streaming, backup repository, Intranet, groupware type servers it's a very noob-friendly site. More MS biased than many forums/blogs, but also more accessible than some of the more comprehensive ones - and definitely less of the "if you like a GUI you're a noob and not worth our time" type of thing you can run into on the enterprise-linux targeted sites sometimes. <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br>
Not surprisingly, this is also looking like a thorough and unique build/project alpenwasser... subbed! <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 

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<b><span style="font-size:24px;">Mounting the PSU, Testing LSI Controller</span></b><br><br><br>
Finally, UPDATE TIME! <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
Yeah, it's taking a lot longer to finish this than I'd initially hoped (doesn't<br>
it always with these sort of projects...). But I've been working on it in the last<br>
few weeks and now finally have something to share. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">PSU Fitting Issue</span></b><br><br>
The PSU slides into this case through an opening from behind, and since the case<br>
isn't really made for normal ATX-sized PSUs (but server PSUs instead, it's a<br>
rather tight fit. To be more specific: The PSU in its stock config does not fit,<br>
the screws for the fan grill and the fan grill itself bump up against the<br>
case. An easy fix though, just needed to remove the fan grill on the PSU.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--01--psu-bad-fit.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-01--01--psu-bad-fit.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--01--psu-bad-fit.jpeg"></a><br><br>
And voilà:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--02--psu-good-fit.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-01--02--psu-good-fit.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--02--psu-good-fit.jpeg"></a><br><br>
Furthermore, since normal server PSUs usually blow air through along their<br>
longitudinal axis, there is no ventilation hole on the case for a fan on the top<br>
of the PSU, which most of today's PSUs have. Not to worry, I still had an old<br>
Aquacomputer rad grill laying around. A bit of dremeling should be able to fix<br>
this problem. Marking for cutting:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--03--psu-cutout-markings.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-01--03--psu-cutout-markings.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--03--psu-cutout-markings.jpeg"></a><br><br>
And with the grill mounted:<br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--04--psu-cutout.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-01--04--psu-cutout.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--04--psu-cutout.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Bracket Collision</span></b><br><br>
Another issue with mounting a PSU in the case that wasn't intended to be mounted<br>
in this case: The bracket for the PSU does not quite line up correctly with the<br>
power inlet.<br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--05--psu-back-collision.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-01--05--psu-back-collision.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--05--psu-back-collision.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
The power plug can still be connected, but the PSU sits crooked in the case and<br>
it's a huge pain to mount like this.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--06--psu-back-collision.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-01--06--psu-back-collision.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--06--psu-back-collision.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Again, a little bit of cutting was required:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--07--psu-plug-cutout.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-01--07--psu-plug-cutout.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--07--psu-plug-cutout.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
To give you an idea of how the PSU fits into the case:<br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--08--psu-mounted.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-01--08--psu-mounted.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--08--psu-mounted.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--09--psu-mounted.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-01--09--psu-mounted.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--09--psu-mounted.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Needed to hook up some HDDs to test the LSI controller. Looks very ghetto, worked<br>
like a charm. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--10--hardware-testing.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-01--10--hardware-testing.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--10--hardware-testing.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--11--ghetto-disk-stack.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-01--11--ghetto-disk-stack.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-01--11--ghetto-disk-stack.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Next Up...</span></b><br><br>
Manufacturing the drive cages, the so-called pièce de resistance... <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br><br>
So long<br>
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Thanks! <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><br>
It's not going to be super pretty (not worth the time and money, especially since I don't<br>
really have either at the moment <img alt="rolleyes.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif"> ), but it will hold 24 3.5" disks in the final config,<br>
which I'm hoping should be enough for the foreseeable future and provide some sort<br>
of eye-candy at least for storage fetishists. <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 

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<b><span style="font-size:24px;">The Disk Racks</span></b><br><br><br>
A.k.a. the main part of this undertaking. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><br>
As mentioned elsewhere, one of the two main problem of our current server is<br>
that it only has seven HDD slots, and they're already all filled up. The only<br>
way to get more storage is to install larger disks, which isn't really all that<br>
optimal.<br><br>
One of the main points of this build was to have more disk slots. The PP689 only<br>
offers four in its stock form, which you can upgrade to a maximum of thirteen<br>
drives. You would need to buy another four-disk enclosure (which btw. I could<br>
not find anywhere to buy), and a five-disk enclosure for the 5.25" bays. Since<br>
13 drives aren't really that many, and since these enclosures aren't exactly<br>
cheap, I decided to go another route.<br><br>
It took me a while to figure out how to do it, but in the end this is what I<br>
came up with. I had very generous help from one of my neighbours, who has a mill<br>
and a lathe at his disposal, as well as plenty of time (he's a pensioneer <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"> ).<br><br><br>
So off we went:<br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">The Mill</span></b><br><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--01--mill.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--01--mill.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--01--mill.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">First Steps</span></b><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--02--milling.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--02--milling.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--02--milling.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--03--progress.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--03--progress.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--03--progress.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
The Mill can also serve as a drill press. The drill chuck he looks ridiculously<br>
huge when you put a small drill bit into it (he said they didn't have the<br>
smaller model in stock when he needed to buy his, so he went with the large<br>
one). <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--04--drill-chuck.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--04--drill-chuck.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--04--drill-chuck.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Stumbled upon this when going through my pics. My dog's girlfriend, basically<br>
(she's a labrador and belongs to another one of our neighbours). I was<br>
dogsitting here for an evening a few weeks back. She can be a bit hyperactive at<br>
times, but is a very lovely dog. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--05--sleepy.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--05--sleepy.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--05--sleepy.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Drilling and Milling</span></b><br><br>
Lots of holes needed to be drilled for the pop rivets that were going to hold it<br>
all together.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--06--drill-drill-drill.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--06--drill-drill-drill.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--06--drill-drill-drill.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--07--drill-drill-drill.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--07--drill-drill-drill.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--07--drill-drill-drill.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Milling out the slots for the screwheads:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--08--mill-mill-mill.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--08--mill-mill-mill.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--08--mill-mill-mill.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Phase I Complete</span></b><br><br>
The side panels of the disk racks completed. Testing with some broken old HDDs<br>
I had laying around to make sure it all fits as it should. It does. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--09--cage-panels.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--09--cage-panels.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--09--cage-panels.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--10--cage-panels.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--10--cage-panels.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--10--cage-panels.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--11--cage-panels.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--11--cage-panels.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--11--cage-panels.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Rail Detail</span></b><br><br>
This is how the construct looks on the side where you slide in the disks. You<br>
can see the pop rives I used to assemble it, the slots which are pictured being<br>
milled above for the screwheads and the screws on the disks. You can also see<br>
the recesses into which the screws mounted on the HDDs lock. The system works<br>
very well.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--12--cage-rail-detail.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--12--cage-rail-detail.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--12--cage-rail-detail.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--13--cage-rail-detail.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--13--cage-rail-detail.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--13--cage-rail-detail.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Ventilation</span></b><br><br>
Obviously, 24 HDDs are going to put out some heat, so some ventilation is<br>
required. I'm using six Papst fans for that. The fans will be bolted onto the<br>
panels with some L profiles. Unfortunately, 120 mm fans have 105 mm hole<br>
distance, and HDDs are ~100 mm wide, so it's not possible to mount the fan on<br>
both sides, only two screws can be used. It's not really a problem though, two<br>
screws tightened down nicely give sufficient stability.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--14--fan-rail.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--14--fan-rail.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--14--fan-rail.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--15--fan-rail.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--15--fan-rail.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--15--fan-rail.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--16--fan-rail.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--16--fan-rail.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--16--fan-rail.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--17--fan-rail-detail.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--17--fan-rail-detail.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--17--fan-rail-detail.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Mounting Brackets</span></b><br><br>
The panels are mounted to the bottom and top of the case with screws. To have<br>
some leeway in adjusting things, there are slots instead of round holes in some<br>
places.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--18--disk-rack-mounting-bracket.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--18--disk-rack-mounting-bracket.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--18--disk-rack-mounting-bracket.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Top:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--19--disk-rack-mounting-bracket.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--19--disk-rack-mounting-bracket.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--19--disk-rack-mounting-bracket.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Bottom:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--20--disk-rack-mounting-bracket.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--20--disk-rack-mounting-bracket.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--20--disk-rack-mounting-bracket.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Fan Mounting</span></b><br><br>
Since the fan screws need to be tightened rather heavily, the screws exert quite<br>
a bit of pressure on the fan frames. To prevent the fan frames from being<br>
crushed and/or breaking, we made some brass bushings that take the brunt of the<br>
pressure.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--21--fan-bushings.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--21--fan-bushings.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--21--fan-bushings.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">And Mounted</span></b><br><br>
And finally the disk racks are mounted inside the case. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--22--disk-racks.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--22--disk-racks.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--22--disk-racks.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--23--disk-racks.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--23--disk-racks.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--23--disk-racks.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Disk Mounting</span></b><br><br>
The Disks just slide into the slots and lock into place in the recesses you can<br>
see above. Since I can't tighten the screws, I'm using Loctite to prevent them<br>
from falling out due to vibration. I tried to get some screws similar to those<br>
Lian Li use for their HDD mounting, but the only ones I could find were so<br>
expensive that they'd have cost me more than 100 USD. So yeah, nope...<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--24--disk-screws.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--24--disk-screws.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--24--disk-screws.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><br>
There's still lots to do, but that was by far the most work intensive part of<br>
this build, took us quite a while to get it done. And no, it won't be painted or<br>
anything, the server will stand in a closed room in our appartment anyway. I'd<br>
have loved to make it all pretty and nice, but at the moment I just don't have<br>
the time.<br><br><br>
So long, and until next time. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br>
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<b><span style="font-size:24px;">Chipset Cooling, Adventures in Instability</span></b><br><br><br>
As some may be aware, I originally had some issues when trying to<br>
get this machine to run stable. While stress testing with mprime,<br>
it repeatedly and reproduceably crashed after less than an hour,<br>
sometimes even already after a few minutes. Each time after<br>
crashing, it took me several tries and about 10 to 20 minutes to<br>
get the board to POST again.<br><br>
After some troubleshooting and running a few diagnostics, it<br>
turned out that the 5520 chipset was running really hot. It's<br>
temperature threshold as indicated by the system is 95 degrees<br>
Celsius, and when I was last able to check on it before a crash,<br>
it had already passed 85 deg C, so I suspected that it was bumping<br>
up against the threshold, upon which the board did an emergency<br>
shutoff and mandated a cooldown period until it would run again.<br><br>
As an emergency fix, I took the 80 mm San Ace fan that came with<br>
the case and mounted it to the chipset heatsink with some waxed<br>
cotton cord, and voilà somewhere slightly above 70 deg C maximum.<br><img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
Unfortunately I forgot to take pictures of that rather ghetto<br>
setup before dismantling it again and replacing it with something<br>
more solid, but I have managed to blow up some sections from<br>
another picture that should at least give you an idea of how it<br>
looked.<br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Some Improvisation</span></b><br><br>
Apologies for the horrid picture quality, as said this is a blowup<br>
from a picture of which this section is only a small part.<br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--01--chipset-fan-ghetto.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-03--01--chipset-fan-ghetto.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--01--chipset-fan-ghetto.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">A More Permanent Solution</span></b><br><br>
The chipset heatsink is just your run of the mill alu heatsink held<br>
on by a spring clamp with some hooks.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--02--chipset-heatsink.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-03--02--chipset-heatsink.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--02--chipset-heatsink.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
And the naked chipset after cleaning off the TIM. That stuff was a<br>
***** to get off, it had dried up rather significantly.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--03--chipset-naked.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-03--03--chipset-naked.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--03--chipset-naked.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Since the 80 mm fan is quite a bit larger than the chipset<br>
heatsink itself, I needed to either replace the heatsink or modify<br>
it in order to be able to mount the fan to it. I took a<br>
rather crude, but very effective approach: I took an L piece of<br>
aluminium, drilled two holes across the heatsink, cut some M4<br>
threads on those two holes (which worked despite the holes only<br>
going through the fins and not being continuous), then bolted the<br>
L piece to the heatsink with two M4 screws. Works like a charm. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
Don't mind the unclean alu bits from the drilling and cutting on<br>
the heatsink between the fins, it wasn't really possible to<br>
properly clean that off and make the holes as clean as one usually<br>
does.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--04--chipset-heatsink-bolts.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-03--04--chipset-heatsink-bolts.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--04--chipset-heatsink-bolts.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
And from the other side...<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--05--chipset-cooler-bolts.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-03--05--chipset-cooler-bolts.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--05--chipset-cooler-bolts.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
The fan itself is held down by three screws, two in the L piece...<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--06--chipset-fan.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-03--06--chipset-fan.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--06--chipset-fan.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
... and one in the corner of the heatsink itself. The bent fins<br>
are from drilling and cutting the thread, they got a bit<br>
structurally weak at their edges due to that. Doesn't impair<br>
functionality, so not such a big deal since it won't be visible<br>
anyway.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--07--chipset-fan-third-bolt.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-03--07--chipset-fan-third-bolt.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--07--chipset-fan-third-bolt.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
And the whole package:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--08--chipset-fan-unit.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-03--08--chipset-fan-unit.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--08--chipset-fan-unit.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
The heatsink unit mounted on the M/B. You need to unmount the fan<br>
to do that. You can again see the bent fins here.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--09--chipset-heatsink-mounted.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-03--09--chipset-heatsink-mounted.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--09--chipset-heatsink-mounted.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
And mounted, with the fan:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--10--chipset-cooling-unit.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-03--10--chipset-cooling-unit.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-03--10--chipset-cooling-unit.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><br>
That's it for today, thanks for stopping by. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><br>
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<b><span style="font-size:24px;">Disk Ventilation</span></b><br><br><br>
Although disks have become quite frugal when it comes to<br>
power consumption these days (at least some of them) and HDD<br>
cooling is not really a huge issue for most people, packing<br>
24 disks as closely together as in this build will cause<br>
heat issues without ventilation. There is no need for 3k rpm<br>
Delta fans though, a whiff of cool air breezing over the<br>
disks should do the job nicely.<br><br>
For this purpose, as you may have seen in some previous<br>
pics, I have chosen 6 120 mm Papst fans, specifically the<br>
4412 GLL model, and am running them at 7 V. The fans draw<br>
air in through a vent area, and it then gets passed through<br>
the M/B compartment and out the back.<br><br>
Each fan is fixed to a rail riveted to one of the disk rack<br>
panels with two screws.<br><br><br>
You've seen this before, but for completeness' sake I'm<br>
adding the pics of the bushings used to prevent the fan<br>
frames from being crushed to this update as well:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--21--fan-bushings.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-02--21--fan-bushings.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-02--21--fan-bushings.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
I exchanged the copper screws for some silver ones, and in<br>
the process added some dampening foam between the mouning<br>
rails and the fan frame.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--01--disk-fan-dampening.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-10--01--disk-fan-dampening.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--01--disk-fan-dampening.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
The whole fan panel assembly:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--02--disk-fans.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-10--02--disk-fans.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--02--disk-fans.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
While doing some test runs, I noticed that a rather large<br>
amount of air was being expelled through the front of the<br>
case instead of going into the M/B compartment and out the<br>
back (I wasn't really surprised by this seeing as how open<br>
the front was). Obviously, this was not optimal. So I took a<br>
1.5 mm panel of alu and bolted it to the front.<br><br>
Because the existing front has a few folds in it, I needed<br>
to do some cutting on the case first.<br><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--03--front-panel-folds.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-10--03--front-panel-folds.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--03--front-panel-folds.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--04--front-panel-marked.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-10--04--front-panel-marked.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--04--front-panel-marked.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--05--cut-preparation.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-10--05--cut-preparation.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--05--cut-preparation.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--06--front-panel-mounted.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-10--06--front-panel-mounted.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--06--front-panel-mounted.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
After having done that, I turned my attention to the side<br>
panel, making an opening for the ventilation. I thought of<br>
several ways of doing this, but all of them were a bit more<br>
complicated than I'd have liked them to be. Cutting such a<br>
big hole with a dremel isn't really practical, so I<br>
considered doing it with our jigsaw, but after doing a few<br>
test cuts I didn't really like the result as I couldn't get<br>
a straight enough cut. And the cut needed to be clean,<br>
because there's no space to fit a U channel over the edge,<br>
and I don't really like the idea of covering it up on the<br>
outside.<br><br>
Anyway, the guy just used a nice big angle grinder for the<br>
cut, and since he's a metal worker by trade, it turned out<br>
almost perfectly straight (not 100%, but it's still cut by<br>
hand, after all <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif">). After that, I painted the bare edge<br>
with some model paint to not have the blank metal staring at<br>
me.<br><br>
I thought about painting the mesh, but at the moment I don't<br>
really have the time, plus I kind of like the look of this<br>
bare piece of alu, so I've left it as-is.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--07--side-panel-vent-raw.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-10--07--side-panel-vent-raw.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--07--side-panel-vent-raw.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
The mesh doesn't cover the whole fan area (nor is it very<br>
open with those rather narrow slots), but there is no need<br>
for high-power ventilation here, so this is not a big deal.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--08--side-panel-vent-test-fit.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-10--08--side-panel-vent-test-fit.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--08--side-panel-vent-test-fit.jpeg"></a><br><br>
It's fixed to the inside of the panel with some double-sided<br>
adhesive tape.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--09--side-panel-vent-mesh.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-10--09--side-panel-vent-mesh.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--09--side-panel-vent-mesh.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
And in its final config:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--10--side-panel-vent-final.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-10--10--side-panel-vent-final.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-10--10--side-panel-vent-final.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Drive temperatures hover between 28 deg C and 35 deg C at<br>
the moment, ambient is about 23 deg C. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><br>
Until next time,<br>
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<b><span style="font-size:24px;">Triple Fan Unit</span></b><br><br><br><br>
As hinted at earlier, the airflow in this build will go from<br>
the front compartment through the middle wall into the M/B<br>
compartment and out the back.<br><br>
This is pretty much how the stock configuration works,<br>
except in that the air gets in through the front panel, not<br>
through the side panel.<br><br>
Unfortunately I forgot to take pics of the stock config, but<br>
luckily tweaktown.com did a review on this case and took them<br>
for me. <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br><br>
Source article where I got the image from can be found <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3769/in_win_iw_pp689_pedestal_performance_server_chassis/index.html" target="_blank">here</a>.<br><br>
In the stock config, the 92 mm fans are mounted inside<br>
some plastic fan cages that allow quick and toolless fan<br>
replacement in case of failure.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--00a--stock-config-tweaktown.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--00a--stock-config-tweaktown.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--00a--stock-config-tweaktown.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
And without the fan cages:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--00b--stock-config-tweaktown.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--00b--stock-config-tweaktown.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--00b--stock-config-tweaktown.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Originally I just screwed the fans to two aluminium L<br>
profile bars.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--01--triple-fan-unit.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--01--triple-fan-unit.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--01--triple-fan-unit.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--02--triple-fan-unit.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--02--triple-fan-unit.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--02--triple-fan-unit.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--03--triple-fan-unit.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--03--triple-fan-unit.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--03--triple-fan-unit.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
It was fixed to the middle wall with double-sided adhesive<br>
tape. It's very strong stuff, so the fan unit falling off<br>
was not a concern. Additionally, the tape has some thickness<br>
to it, which should provide some dampening between the fan<br>
unit and the middle wall.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--04--triple-fan-unit-taped.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--04--triple-fan-unit-taped.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--04--triple-fan-unit-taped.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Unfortunately, due to some bumps on the middle wall getting in<br>
the way, the tape on the rear angle didn't make proper contact<br>
with the wall. It held, but not very well.<br><br>
Additinoally, I noticed that there were rather strong<br>
vibtrations on the middle wall. It turned out that the tape<br>
did indeed offer some decoupling, but it also did not<br>
offer any additional strength to the middle wall (i.e. no<br>
additional stiffness), which meant the wall could easily<br>
vibrate.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--05--triple-fan-unit-adhesive-failure.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--05--triple-fan-unit-adhesive-failure.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--05--triple-fan-unit-adhesive-failure.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
So, I took the unit out, and while I was at it, I also cut<br>
out some recesses for the fans which I didn't bother doing<br>
before. I also put some dampening foam between the fans and<br>
the alu angles.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--06--triple-fan-unit-improvements.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--06--triple-fan-unit-improvements.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--06--triple-fan-unit-improvements.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Aaand of course I mounted the fans the wrong way<br>
round. Sigh.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--07--triple-fan-unit-welp.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--07--triple-fan-unit-welp.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--07--triple-fan-unit-welp.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Disassemble again, reassemble.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--08--triple-fan-unit-better.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--08--triple-fan-unit-better.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--08--triple-fan-unit-better.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Also: Foam between the alu angles and the wall itself:<br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--09--triple-fan-unit-padding.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--09--triple-fan-unit-padding.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--09--triple-fan-unit-padding.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
This time I bolted it to the wall with some screws. Much<br>
more solid now, no more vibrations. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--10--triple-fan-unit-mounted.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--10--triple-fan-unit-mounted.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--10--triple-fan-unit-mounted.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
How it looks from the other side:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--11--triple-fan-unit-final.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-12--11--triple-fan-unit-final.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-12--11--triple-fan-unit-final.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Cheers,<br>
-aw
 

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<b><span style="font-size:24px;">Storage Topology & Cabling</span></b><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Storage Topology</span></b><br><br><br>
In case you can't read the text, the full res version should<br>
be more easily readable.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--storage-topology.png" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--storage-topology.png" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--storage-topology.png"></a><br><br><br>
The idea behind the storage topology is based on the concept<br>
Any one of the three LSI controllers can fail and I still<br>
have all my data available.<br><br>
You'll see below that I haven't yet gotten around to<br>
installing the Velociraptor.<br><br>
I use coloured zip ties to mark the cables that go to the<br>
different controllers.<br><br>
BLUE = controller 0<br>
YELLOW = controller 1<br>
GREEN = controller 2<br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Tidiness</span></b><br><br>
There isn't really any space to hide the cables, so this was<br>
rather tricky and required three attempts until I was<br>
satisfied with the result. In the end I hid the extra cable<br>
behind the triple fan unit, good thing they're 38 mm fans,<br>
which makes the space behind them just about large enough to<br>
fit the extra cable bits.<br><br>
The power cables for the disks are two cables that came with<br>
the PSU and onto which I just put a lot more connectors<br>
while taking off the stock connectors because those were<br>
neither placed in the correct locations nor facing in the<br>
right direction.<br><br><br>
Looks harmless, right? Yeah...<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--01--cables-harmless.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--01--cables-harmless.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--01--cables-harmless.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
And the disks:<br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--02--disks.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--02--disks.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--02--disks.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
OK then, first try:<br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--03--all-cables.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--03--all-cables.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--03--all-cables.jpeg"></a><br><br>
I soon realized that this wasn't going to work. The problem<br>
was that I had the disks arranged in the same way as the<br>
will be set up in the storage pool layout, so the disks<br>
which go into the same storage pool were also mounted below<br>
each other. Sounds nice in theory, but if you want to<br>
have disk from each pool distributed among the different<br>
controllers, you'll get quite the cable mess.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--04--cabling-round-1.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--04--cabling-round-1.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--04--cabling-round-1.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--05--cabling-round-1.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--05--cabling-round-1.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--05--cabling-round-1.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Second Try</span></b><br><br>
Next try, this time I arranged the disks to that the cables<br>
to the controllers could be better laid out. Since I wanted<br>
to set up all the cables for all the disk slots, even ones<br>
that will stay empty for now, I had to shuffle the disks<br>
around when laying out the cables.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--06--cabling-round-2.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--06--cabling-round-2.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--06--cabling-round-2.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--08--cable-hydra.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--08--cable-hydra.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--08--cable-hydra.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--09--cable-crossruns.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--09--cable-crossruns.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--09--cable-crossruns.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Better. But I still wasn't quite happy, mainly because...<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--10--cables-done.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--10--cables-done.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--10--cables-done.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--11--disks-distributed.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--11--disks-distributed.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--11--disks-distributed.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--12--cables-detail.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--12--cables-detail.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--12--cables-detail.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
... of this:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--13--cables-nest.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--13--cables-nest.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--13--cables-nest.jpeg"></a><br><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">Third Try</span></b><br><br><br>
This time I made sure the cables stayed tidy on both ends<br>
while hiding the mess (which cannot be avoided since all<br>
cables are the same length but lead to different end points,<br>
obviously) behind the triple fan unit.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--15--hiding-space.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--15--hiding-space.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--15--hiding-space.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
The loop of extra cable length for the top cable loom:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--16--hiding-space.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--16--hiding-space.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--16--hiding-space.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
And the cable loom for controller 0, from the disk side...<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--17--cable-loom-controller-0.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--17--cable-loom-controller-0.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--17--cable-loom-controller-0.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
and the M/B side. Much better IMHO. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--18--cable-loom-controller-0.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--18--cable-loom-controller-0.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--18--cable-loom-controller-0.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
The bottom controller had a bit more extra cable length to hide, so<br>
that part is a bit messier.<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--19--cable-loom-controller-2.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--19--cable-loom-controller-2.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--19--cable-loom-controller-2.jpeg"></a><br><br>
And the middle one:<br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--20--cable-loom-controller-1.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--20--cable-loom-controller-1.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--20--cable-loom-controller-1.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Tada! While not perfect (I'd need longer cables for that to<br>
make cleaner runs, but I'm not buying more cables just for<br>
the sake of that for a build that has a closed side panel),<br>
with this iteration of my cabling I'm now rather happy:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--21--disk-rack-cables-overview.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--21--disk-rack-cables-overview.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--21--disk-rack-cables-overview.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--22--disk-rack-cables-closeup.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--22--disk-rack-cables-closeup.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--22--disk-rack-cables-closeup.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--23--disk-rack-cables-closeup.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--23--disk-rack-cables-closeup.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--23--disk-rack-cables-closeup.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
And the other side. Much better than before methinks. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--24--mb-cmpt-overview.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--24--mb-cmpt-overview.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--24--mb-cmpt-overview.jpeg"></a><br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--25--mb-cmpt-closeup.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--25--mb-cmpt-closeup.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--25--mb-cmpt-closeup.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
The SATA cable for the system SSD:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--26--system-drive-sata-cable.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--26--system-drive-sata-cable.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--26--system-drive-sata-cable.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
And the controller LEDs when there's some activity:<br><br><span style="font-size:10px;"><span style="color:#915645;">(click image for full res)</span></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--27--controller-lights.jpeg" target="_blank"><img alt="aw--apollo--2014-04-13--27--controller-lights.jpeg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.alpenwasser.net/images/w800/aw--apollo--2014-04-13--27--controller-lights.jpeg"></a><br><br><br>
Now if you'll excuse me, there's a dinner waiting to be<br>
cooked. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br><br>
Cheers,<br>
-aw
 

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Very nice build, I love the HDD rack you did, made me think about making something similar for my server. Also I'm pretty sure that I'm gonna steal your chipset cooler idea, it's ridiculous how hot that chip gets.<br><br>
I'm curious though about your choice to go Arch instead of something more enterprise focused like CentOS or Debian.
 

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Very nice build, I love the HDD rack you did, made me think about making something similar for my server.</div>
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Thanks, I appreciate the compliment! <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"><br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-24-disks-capacity-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_22104917" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
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Also I'm pretty sure that I'm gonna steal your chipset cooler idea, it's ridiculous how hot that chip gets.</div>
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Yes, ridiculous indeed. I noticed that when I started playing with my SR-2, the fan on<br>
that thing was very busy. Good thing I now have a watercooler on that chipset, but I<br>
didn't really feel like going W/C for this bulid. <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"><br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-24-disks-capacity-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_22104917" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Aximous</strong> <a href="/t/1442386/apollo-2cpu-lga1366-server-inwin-pp689-24-disks-capacity-by-alpenwasser/0_50#post_22104917"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
I'm curious though about your choice to go Arch instead of something more enterprise focused like CentOS or Debian.</div>
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Two reasons primarily, the first one being my familiarity with it. I know there are people<br>
who tend to go "Ah, Arch, bleeding edge, unstable!" and all that. But in all honesty, I've<br>
been using it as my daily driver on several machines for three years now, and I've had<br>
only one case of actual proper system breakage, and that was related to Gnome. And<br>
even then, I just did a clean reinstall and was back up and running within about two<br>
hours with all my settings and stuff from before.<br><br>
I know my way around Arch well enough to feel comfortable with it and be efficient-ish<br>
when needing to troubleshoot, which I can't say for Debian (or FreeBSD, which I actually<br>
also considered at some point and did play around with on another machine for a while),<br>
or other distros (I could learn, of course, but at the moment I'm a bit pressed for time with<br>
college and all, I need this thing up and running sooner rather than later).<br><br>
Secondly, ZFS support is very good on Arch, whereas I've read a few posts around some<br>
forums which said that ZFS under Debian-based distros is... hinky. I haven't personally<br>
tried it, so I can't speak from personal experience on that one though. I have been using<br>
ZFS on Arch on another machine for about nine months now and it's been working very<br>
well, so I thought I'd deploy it on this machine too.<br><br><br>
So basically, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 
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