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Hello my dear OCN friends.<br><br>
I have recently moved, and due to some unpredictable circumstances my monitors broke in the move. (Basically never ask my friends to help me move again.)<br><br>
I am currently using two 24' Monitors, both are my old monitors that I had sitting around in storage, they are 60HZ, both non gaming monitors.<br><br>
I want to buy a good gaming monitor to put in between my two 24' ones that I can enjoy games on.<br><br>
I am debating between 120/144HZ monitors but since I haven't been keeping up with monitors lately, I'm not sure which one to get.<br><br>
My budget is preferably under $400. I mainly play FPS/MOBA with RPGs whenever they come out.<br><br>
Thank you ahead of time my dear OCN friends for all your advise.
 

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If you are ok with another 24" 1080p TN look into the Acer XB240H, it's 1080p 144hz and also has G-sync and it's around $384.99 atm on amazon.
 

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VG248QE hands down the best 144HZ monitor assuming colors isn't your high priority.<br><br>
<a href="http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2013/test-asus-vg248qe-teil7.html#Reaktionsverhalten" target="_blank">http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2013/test-asus-vg248qe-teil7.html#Reaktionsverhalten</a><br><br>
Fastest 144HZ monitor on the market as far as I know.
 

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VG248QE was the best monitor two years ago.<br><br>
XL2720Z is the best FPS monitor at the moment<br>
And it's on sale at Amazon so it fits right under your budget.<br><br>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=overclockdotnet-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB00GWFNMJS%3Fref_%3Dcm_rdp_product" rel="norewrite" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GWFNMJS?ref_=cm_rdp_product</a>.<br><br>
Just as fast as the VG248QE, built in strobing/blur reduction 60-144hz in 1 hz increments (Via VT tweaks).<br>
Limited scaler downsampling also possible. ([email protected] with VT 1500, [email protected] (maxiumum) with HT 2641 and VT 1497<br>
[email protected] possible (using 2250 VT). Blur reduction will not work here; if you want blur reduction at [email protected], use DSR/VSR to downsample via GPU scaling.<br><br>
Nice monitor.<br><br>
(P.S. Hooked up my VG248QE earlier today to try scaler downsampling...monitor won't accept a single resolution higher than 1920x1080 unless it's GPU scaled, and you can only GPU scale with the Nvidia control panel (Not possible on AMD CCC without VSR).
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Falkentyne</strong> <a href="/t/1576752/best-120-144hz-monitor-for-fps-gaming#post_24500429"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
VG248QE was the best monitor two years ago.<br><br>
XL2720Z is the best FPS monitor at the moment<br>
And it's on sale at Amazon so it fits right under your budget.<br><br>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=overclockdotnet-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB00GWFNMJS%3Fref_%3Dcm_rdp_product" rel="norewrite" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GWFNMJS?ref_=cm_rdp_product</a>.<br><br>
Just as fast as the VG248QE, built in strobing/blur reduction 60-144hz in 1 hz increments (Via VT tweaks).<br>
Limited scaler downsampling also possible. ([email protected] with VT 1500, [email protected] (maxiumum) with HT 2641 and VT 1497<br>
[email protected] possible (using 2250 VT). Blur reduction will not work here; if you want blur reduction at [email protected], use DSR/VSR to downsample via GPU scaling.<br><br>
Nice monitor.<br><br>
(P.S. Hooked up my VG248QE earlier today to try scaler downsampling...monitor won't accept a single resolution higher than 1920x1080 unless it's GPU scaled, and you can only GPU scale with the Nvidia control panel (Not possible on AMD CCC without VSR).</div>
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XL2720Z is a good monitor, but the VG248QE is still quicker. The blur reduction only adds to the over all input latency on that monitor on top of what it already has.<br><br>
<a href="http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/benq_xl2720z/144Hz_schaltzeiten_ama_aus.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/benq_xl2720z/144Hz_schaltzeiten_ama_aus.jpg</a><br><br>
<a href="http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/asus_vg248qe/response-144-100.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/asus_vg248qe/response-144-100.jpg</a>
 
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What about the benq xl2420g? Wouldn't g-sync be the best option give he is using a gtx980?
 

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XL2420G isn't a bad monitor, although it's a 24" TN panel (same panel used on XL2411Z, XL2420Z, XL2430T and many other models including Asus VG248QE).<br><br>
It's basically an XL2420Z combined with a gsync module for two independent scalers in one (they can NOT be used at the same time; monitor must be power cycled after setting the scaler switch on the back). It's 100% identical to the XL2420Z in Z mode, although I'm not sure what firmware it's based on...most likely either V2 or V3 firmware.<br><br>
It just wasn't a popular monitor because it was overpriced and was too close in price to the 27" IPS and 1440p TN Gsync monitors. But now that the price has dropped, it's a pretty decent "starter" monitor for people who want to try gsync while still keeping the 60hz-144hz blur reduction capability for consoles and non Nvidia systems.<br><br>
While "Lightboost" mode looks better on the 24" versions (everyone except the XL2430T which doesn't have lightboost), the XL2720Z has an AMA low mode (V3, V4 and V5 firmware) that the 24" monitors don't have, which improves benq blur reduction pretty drastically. So if you're buying a monitor for the strobed backlight and NOT for gsync, the XL2720Z would be a great choice.
 

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XL2720Z is a good monitor, but the VG248QE is still quicker. The blur reduction only adds to the over all input latency on that monitor on top of what it already has.<br><br>
<a href="http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/benq_xl2720z/144Hz_schaltzeiten_ama_aus.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/benq_xl2720z/144Hz_schaltzeiten_ama_aus.jpg</a><br><br>
<a href="http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/asus_vg248qe/response-144-100.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/asus_vg248qe/response-144-100.jpg</a></div>
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You either don't understand the sources you linked to or are very biased since you took PRADs measurements out of context and didn't compare the monitors overdrive settings properly. I'm guessing it's a bit of both. The VG248QE measurement is for the maximum overdrive/Trace Free 100 setting @144hz which suffers from very obvious overshoot as indicated by the green line in the graph while the BenQ measurement is for the AMA Off Setting which is not the ideal setting. <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2014/test-benq-xl2720z-teil10.html" target="_blank">The next page of PRAD's XL2720Z review</a> has 144hz AMA High setting measurements which indicate that the BenQ is free from obvious overshoot ghosting and has fast pixel response times. The BenQ is also PWM/Flicker free which makes it win by default since the VG248QE uses PWM which ruins motion clarity (<a class="bbcode_url" href="https://flic.kr/p/qSbVjo" target="_blank">example</a>) when Lightboost is not enabled. The VG248QE also has terrible contrast and colours and contrast when Lightboost is enabled and ok colours and poor contrast (its glossy black bezel ruins the perceived black depth compared to the new BenQ's matte black bezels and LG 24GM77's dark matte grey bezel).<br><br>
The LG 24GM77 (<a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.digitalversus.com/lcd-monitor/lg-24gm77-p21911/test.html" target="_blank">Review by Digital Versus</a> & <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2014/test-lg-24gm77-b.html" target="_blank">Review by PRAD</a>) is the best on F/G-Sync 144hz monitor, especially in terms of image quality compared to the cheap Acer, AOC and BenQ monitors.<br><hr class="bbcode_rule"><br>
The XL2420G is a waste of money since it's possible to buy an AOC G2460PG (<a class="bbcode_url" href="https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-g2460pg/" target="_blank">Review by PC Monitors</a> & <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.digitalversus.com/lcd-monitor/aoc-g2460pg-p20680/test.html" target="_blank">Review by Digital Versus</a>)) and a 23-24" IPS with much better image quality and superior 60hz performance versus the XL2420G (it suffers from obvious overshoot ghosting @60hz with AMA High and is slower than most newer IPS panels when the overshoot AMA Off setting is used @60hz) for slightly more.
 
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Just FYI:<br>
Newer versions of the VG248QE have (virtually) pwm free backlighting. This also applies for the previous generation Benq "T" series (not talking about the XL2430T). The original T/TE series had PWM backlighting while the most recent revisions of that series (XL2411T, XL2420TE) were PWM free.<br><br>
<a href="http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/69323-pwm-vs-non-pwm/" target="_blank">http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/69323-pwm-vs-non-pwm/</a>
 
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After reading all of the replies and reviews, which one of these 3 should I get?<br><br><b>The BENQ</b> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=overclockdotnet-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBenQ-Performance-24-Inch-LED-Lit-XL2430T%2Fdp%2FB00M8E0K06%2Fref%3Dsr_1_2%3Fs%3Dpc%26ie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1444801296%26sr%3D1-2%26keywords%3Dbenq%2B144hz" rel="norewrite" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-Performance-24-Inch-LED-Lit-XL2430T/dp/B00M8E0K06/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1444801296&sr=1-2&keywords=benq+144hz</a><br><br><b>The LG</b> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=overclockdotnet-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FLG-Electronics-24GM77-24-Inch-LED-Lit%2Fdp%2FB00P0EOX1S%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1%3Fs%3Dpc%26ie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1444801215%26sr%3D1-1%26keywords%3D24GM77" rel="norewrite" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-24GM77-24-Inch-LED-Lit/dp/B00P0EOX1S/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1444801215&sr=1-1&keywords=24GM77</a><br><br><b>The PHILIPS</b> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=overclockdotnet-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FPhilips-242G5DJEB-Extreme-Performance-Professional%2Fdp%2FB00G6IWEE0%2Fref%3Dsr_1_4%3Fs%3Dpc%26ie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1444801471%26sr%3D1-4%26keywords%3D144hz" rel="norewrite" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Philips-242G5DJEB-Extreme-Performance-Professional/dp/B00G6IWEE0/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1444801471&sr=1-4&keywords=144hz</a>
 

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The LG is better than the BenQ and the Philips uses PWM which ruins motion clarity and has bad colours: <a href="http://www.digitalversus.com/lcd-monitor/philips-brilliance-242g5djeb-p16177/test.html" target="_blank">http://www.digitalversus.com/lcd-monitor/philips-brilliance-242g5djeb-p16177/test.html</a><br><br>
You can keep asking about budget 144hz monitors instead of Googling reviews, but they're all worse than the LG.
 

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Hmm, I'm thinking of just getting the LG one than.<br><br>
I'll be honest with you though, I don't get why it's better than the BENQ, from what I understand, the BENQ one has less reverse ghosting, and a faster response time.
 

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By the way, that's not to say that you are wrong, Menacing, It's a legit question, from the reviews I don't get it, so maybe you can explain something that I dont understand, which is possible since I don't know that much about monitors.
 

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All of the 24" BenQ monitors aside from the XL2420G have mediocre (default)-to-meh (switched to Standard mode) colours and lower contrast. The LG also has more balanced overdrive @144hz since it suffers from less overshoot/reverse ghosting which is represented by the green graph and is far more important than super low pixel response times:<br><br>
Compare AMH High (hoch) to the LG's AMA High (Hoch)<br><br>
<a href="http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2014/test-benq-xl2430t-teil10.html" target="_blank">http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2014/test-benq-xl2430t-teil10.html</a><br><br>
<a href="http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2014/test-lg-24gm77-b-teil7.html" target="_blank">http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2014/test-lg-24gm77-b-teil7.html</a><br><br>
Most people will consider the Blur Reduction modes to be ghosting free so I wouldn't worry about the tiny differences.
 

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MenacingTuba: you linked the same thing twice.<br>
Do you have the LG link?
 

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The LG is not G Sync correct?
 

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correct, not freesync either also op not interested in G-sync ? (seeing how he has a nvidia gpu)
 

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correct, not freesync either also op not interested in G-sync ? (seeing how he has a nvidia gpu)</div>
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Actually I was asking for my own information....
 

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correct, not freesync either also op not interested in G-sync ? (seeing how he has a nvidia gpu)</div>
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While I would like a g-sync monitor, all of them are out of my budget currently, if I want 144hz. <img alt="frown.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/frown.gif">
 

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While I would like a g-sync monitor, all of them are out of my budget currently, if I want 144hz. <img alt="frown.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/frown.gif"></div>
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what about this <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=overclockdotnet-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FAcer-XB240H-Abpr-24-Inch-Widescreen%2Fdp%2FB00QS0AK6U" rel="norewrite" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB240H-Abpr-24-Inch-Widescreen/dp/B00QS0AK6U</a> ?<br><br>
if the budget is still under $400 then this thing has pretty much everything the other ones have only that it probably lacks the gimmicky stuff like on screen crosshair or the thing that make's darker places easy to see ( even tho it kinda overall washes the whole image, good for hardcore fps gamers i guess...) the input lag is most likely just as low as the other popular 144hz monitors and for some reason if you don't like it you can return it and get a cheaper one like the LG, benq xl2430t/xl2411z.
 
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