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HEy, i have been using fraps and msi afterburner for recordings but they doesnt perform as well as i want them to..

Fraps: records at the fps i set it to, but the gameplay gets stutters all the time

MSI afterburner, does not stutter, but has performance problems and only records in 27-30 fps in most games instead of 60.

So is there any other recorders that records in raw video like fraps nd msi and performs good with fps i set it to record at?
 

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Try Dxtory or Mirilis Action recorder. You can find guides on youtube for setting them up for the first time, which is quite straight foward.
 

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With fraps, are you recording to the same HDD that you're playing your games off of? If so thats the reason why it stutters.

Another reason can be is that the HDD you're recording off to isnt fast enough to keep up with the needed write speeds.
 

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With fraps, are you recording to the same HDD that you're playing your games off of? If so thats the reason why it stutters.
Nope, i got an dedicated hdd for such.

Quite recently shifted out the WD caviar black with a seagate baracuda to fraps on since baracuda has twice the read and write speed than WD,
 

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Nope, i got an dedicated hdd for such.

Quite recently shifted out the WD caviar black with a seagate baracuda to fraps on since baracuda has twice the read and write speed than WD,
Using the latest version of Fraps?

That's strange cause I can record 1080p60 off to my green drive with no hiccups and its the slowest of all my drives.
 

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1080p @ 60FPS will require some decent write speeds, assuming you capture raw images to avoid the performance hit on the CPU while it compresses frames.
From this topic:
1280x720p @ 120FPS would require about 110MB/s consecutive write speed (assuming 900KB for a raw 720p frame).
However, you want half of the 120 frame rate at 2.25 times the resolution - (1920*1080)/(1280*720) - so that would equal in 120/2*0.9*2.125= ~115MB/sec write.

I believe that a very light compression would be needed in order to achieve some balance. But I am not enlightened in this subject - hopefully somebody else will chime in with more appropriate for you settings.
 

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Not many game I max out have a problem recording a solid 40FPS or more. I did this BF3 video on my rig with FRAPS. Helps playing the game on one SSD, and FRAPS on another SSD, lol
 

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Using the latest version of Fraps?

That's strange cause I can record 1080p60 off to my green drive with no hiccups and its the slowest of all my drives.
Yeah, im using version 3.5.99 build 15618

The game i was trying to record was The buerau.
 

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1080p @ 60FPS will require some decent write speeds, assuming you capture raw images to avoid the performance hit on the CPU while it compresses frames.
From this topic:
1280x720p @ 120FPS would require about 110MB/s consecutive write speed (assuming 900KB for a raw 720p frame).
However, you want half of the 120 frame rate at 2.25 times the resolution - (1920*1080)/(1280*720) - so that would equal in 120/2*0.9*2.125= ~115MB/sec write.

I believe that a very light compression would be needed in order to achieve some balance. But I am not enlightened in this subject - hopefully somebody else will chime in with more appropriate for you settings.
The easiest way to calculate the minimum sustained write bandwidth you need for raw video is: horizontal res * vertical res * color depth (almost always 32-bits) * frame rate

However, most recorders use compression. Some have the ability to disable this, but they are rarely faster this way, even if your disks have the necessary write speed.

FRAPS has no option to remove compression, but it does have the best lossless compression I've yet seen in video recording software (typically a bit better than 50%).

Most other screen capture programs use MJPEG or h.264. MJPEG recorders are generally fairly light on CPU, give good compression, and have decent quality. h.264 has better compression for the same quality, but more CPU load. FRAPS' FPS1 has high CPU load and less compression, but extremely high quality.

The newest beta of MSI AB is going to be the best option for many people here as it has Quicksync support.
 
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1080p @ 60FPS will require some decent write speeds, assuming you capture raw images to avoid the performance hit on the CPU while it compresses frames.
From this topic:
1280x720p @ 120FPS would require about 110MB/s consecutive write speed (assuming 900KB for a raw 720p frame).
However, you want half of the 120 frame rate at 2.25 times the resolution - (1920*1080)/(1280*720) - so that would equal in 120/2*0.9*2.125= ~115MB/sec write.

I believe that a very light compression would be needed in order to achieve some balance. But I am not enlightened in this subject - hopefully somebody else will chime in with more appropriate for you settings.
Max writes ive seen for 1080p60 on my end was the 70-95 MB/s area and thats with Fraps.
 

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OP, I use fraps all the time. It only stutters on your screen, when you watch the playback it should be perfect. It happens to me in minecraft and Mechwarrior online. While I'm recording, i get some random stutters, when I watch the playback, it is flawless.
The reason it stutters is due to the huge file size that fraps creates, to remedy this slightly, I forced it to record to my storage drive and my game plays off my games ssd. 90% of my stuttering went away.
 

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Dxtory would allow you to record to multiple drives which would help the disk write bandwidth issue. Or you could do what I do and just record to WD Blacks in Raid0.

Also when was the last time you defragmented your HDD drive?

I use FRAPS, I like it just fine.
 

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Or you could do what I do and just record to WD Blacks in Raid0.
Doesn't even need to be especially fast drives, depending on how many you have.

Even budget storage drives have more than enough sequential performance to handle almost any FRAPS settings if 2-4 of them are used.
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Max writes ive seen for 1080p60 on my end was the 70-95 MB/s area and thats with Fraps.
This will vary considerably based on the actual content being recorded; the more detail, the less it gets compressed.

I have seen over 180MB/s from 1200p @ 30 fps with some content that had complex textures, lots of AF, and lossless RGB recording with FRAPS.
 
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