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I have chance to give 1080 Ti Lightning Z for 450USD.
How far will it concede theoretically to Kingpin and HOF?



PM me if you want an Aorus windforce 1080 TI for cheaper
 

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I have chance to give 1080 Ti Lightning Z for 450USD.
How far will it concede theoretically to Kingpin and HOF?
I wouldn't buy a 3 years old 1080ti at this point. A 3070 will cost 500$ and will be anywhere between 30%-40% faster, excluding things that support RT and DLSS (that will be even faster). If you do have to purchase something NOW, then at least get 2080s. It's a bit faster, might come with warranty, and has DLSS/RT support.
 

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Hi,
3070 makes more sense.
Hi.
100% you right here, but there are two factors - firstly, I noticed that in old games, old video cards perform better than new ones, probably due to the emphasis on DX9 and DX11 engines. For example - 3DMark Ultra - 1080 Ti is significantly better than 2080S. Already in Spy Extreme, Pascal cannot win the 2070S. Secondly, my old games support SLI.
But I'm already thinking about 3 things myself
1) Buy a second 1080 Ti
2) Wait for 3080 - will it be faster for $ 800 than Pascal SLI (but chances are not)
3) Wait for Big Navi

Just nude numbers
water cooling - not LN2 or Dice

3DMark Ultra
gamernexus
Ultra
1080 ti - 6718
1080 ti X - 7187
Titan XP - 7231
1080 Ti X OC - 7635
Titan XP OC - 8156

hwbot
295x2 H2O - 7816 1206/1552 MHz
295X2 ALO - 7601 1210/1625 MHz
1080 Ti LN2 - 10013
1080 Ti H20 - 8493

3DMark
2080 Ti SLI x2 - 19330 H2O
Titan RTX SLI x2 - 20087 H2O chilled
1080 Ti SLI x2 - 16147
Titan XP - 8795
Titan Xp SLI x2 - 17176
2080Super - 7699
2080Super - 7799
Titan XP - 8840
1080 - 6355
1060 SS 2350/2450 - 3830
1060 h20 2315/2460 - 3773


3DMark TimeSpy Extreme
295X2 4159 1150MHz/1550MHz
295X2 4455 1220MHz/1550MHz H2O
295X2 4605
295X2 X2 7573 1100MHz/1500MHz

1080 Ti 6496 2206MHz/1639MHz KINGPIN
1080 Ti 5794 2215MHz/1596MHz CENS
5634 2228 1677 Avengedrobix
5589 2215 1692 CosimoCarlino
5495 2240 1600 yuyijun22
5491 2265 1645 [email protected]
5412 2265 1527 Shar00750-2
1080 Ti X2 10683 2152MHz/1617MHz 2164MHz/1606MHz
2080S 6246
1080 4093
2080 6145
Titan Xp 5916
Titan Xp X2 11647
1060 2445
1060 SS 2424 2341MHz/2450MHz
 

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I wouldn't buy a 3 years old 1080ti at this point. A 3070 will cost 500$ and will be anywhere between 30%-40% faster, excluding things that support RT and DLSS (that will be even faster). If you do have to purchase something NOW, then at least get 2080s. It's a bit faster, might come with warranty, and has DLSS/RT support.
Perhaps, i suspect that I will wait for November, Big Navi will appear, and perhaps if it is good, there will be either new versions of Ampere, or price reductions, or take BigNavi itself.
I need something that will outperform the 1080 Ti SLi in DX11 - for not much money.
 

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Hi,
Yeah interesting
I'm sure there is some nvidia control panel stuff that can be adjusted for older games
DX.. some stuff there too to help backwards compatibility also in windows for visual c++ missing for 2005/ 2008/....
 

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I wouldn't buy a 3 years old 1080ti at this point. A 3070 will cost 500$ and will be anywhere between 30%-40% faster, excluding things that support RT and DLSS (that will be even faster). If you do have to purchase something NOW, then at least get 2080s. It's a bit faster, might come with warranty, and has DLSS/RT support.
Today these results 3DMark 3080 appeared, I diluted with averages
3DMark Fire Strike Ultra
1060 - Average score: 2977
580 - Average score: 3288
295x2 - Average score: 5164
1080 - Average score: 5378
2080 - Average score: 6433
2080S - Average score: 6752
5700XT - Average score: 6640
Radeon VII - Average score: 6875
1080 Ti - Average score: 7121
Titan XP - Average score: 7658
2080 Ti - Average score: 8442
Titan RTX - Average score: 9241
295x2 CrossFire - Average score: 10241
3080 3DMark Fire Strike Ultra - 11049 (+36% 2080Ti, +64% 2080S);
1080 Ti SLI - Average score: 13579
2080 Ti NVLink - Average score: 16072
Titan RTX NVLink - Average score: 17726

3DMark Fire Strike Time Spy Extreme:
1060 - Average score: 1926
580 - Average score: 1935
1080 - Average score: 3463
295x2 - Average score: 3699
5700XT - Average score: 4206
Radeon VII - Average score: 4294
1080 Ti - Average score: 4681
2080 - Average score: 5143
2080S - Average score: 5375
295x2 CrossFire - Average score: 6798
2080 Ti - Average score: 7005
Titan RTX - Average score: 7368
3080 3DMark Fire Strike Time Spy Extreme - 8548 (+38% 2080Ti, +59% 2080S);
1080 Ti SLI - Average score: 9237
2080 Ti NVLink - Average score: 13699
Titan RTX NVLink - Average score: 15212

We can see - for SLI 1080 Ti - around 800USD - on DX11 (Ultra) - be better then even 3090 (+20% to 3080)
For DX12 (TimeSpy Extreme) - not enough for real compete versus 3090.
 

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^^ I hate these useless combined scores, where the CPU is counted in. Only apples-to-apples GPU graphics scores should be relevant to this discussion.
 

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^^ I hate these useless combined scores, where the CPU is counted in. Only apples-to-apples GPU graphics scores should be relevant to this discussion.
You right. In this list - only graphic scores, without any CPU.
 

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Today these results 3DMark 3080 appeared, I diluted with averages
3DMark Fire Strike Ultra
1060 - Average score: 2977
580 - Average score: 3288
295x2 - Average score: 5164
1080 - Average score: 5378
2080 - Average score: 6433
2080S - Average score: 6752
5700XT - Average score: 6640
Radeon VII - Average score: 6875
1080 Ti - Average score: 7121
Titan XP - Average score: 7658
2080 Ti - Average score: 8442
Titan RTX - Average score: 9241
295x2 CrossFire - Average score: 10241
3080 3DMark Fire Strike Ultra - 11049 (+36% 2080Ti, +64% 2080S);
1080 Ti SLI - Average score: 13579
2080 Ti NVLink - Average score: 16072
Titan RTX NVLink - Average score: 17726

3DMark Fire Strike Time Spy Extreme:
1060 - Average score: 1926
580 - Average score: 1935
1080 - Average score: 3463
295x2 - Average score: 3699
5700XT - Average score: 4206
Radeon VII - Average score: 4294
1080 Ti - Average score: 4681
2080 - Average score: 5143
2080S - Average score: 5375
295x2 CrossFire - Average score: 6798
2080 Ti - Average score: 7005
Titan RTX - Average score: 7368
3080 3DMark Fire Strike Time Spy Extreme - 8548 (+38% 2080Ti, +59% 2080S);
1080 Ti SLI - Average score: 9237
2080 Ti NVLink - Average score: 13699
Titan RTX NVLink - Average score: 15212

We can see - for SLI 1080 Ti - around 800USD - on DX11 (Ultra) - be better then even 3090 (+20% to 3080)
For DX12 (TimeSpy Extreme) - not enough for real compete versus 3090.
What is your point then. That 1080ti SLI is better performance/value than single 3090? Maybe in benchmarks. In gaming? No, because most games don't have multi-gpu support. Even when you do get that support, it comes with stutter. It's true that some games have insane SLI scaling, like The Witcher 3, but they're the exception, and it's an old game. Check games that were released recently, like RDR2, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Control, etc... They don't support SLI, it can still be enabled, but scaling is bad.
 

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Best version of 1080 Ti for overclocking on chiller - KINGPIN or HOF?
I hope nobody will tell - Kudan or OC lab version, finding this is a impossible.
OC Lab and no its not that hard to buy, even I have one sitting on shelf.
 

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What is your point then. That 1080ti SLI is better performance/value than single 3090? Maybe in benchmarks. In gaming? No, because most games don't have multi-gpu support. Even when you do get that support, it comes with stutter. It's true that some games have insane SLI scaling, like The Witcher 3, but they're the exception, and it's an old game. Check games that were released recently, like RDR2, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Control, etc... They don't support SLI, it can still be enabled, but scaling is bad.
You absolutely is right my friend.
But my games just now - GTA V and Starcraft 2 - amazing scaling from SLI and Crossfire, i`m uses 295X2 example. Gamernexus demonstrated - 3080 bench less points then SLI 1080 Ti even not OC on GTAV.
Later i`m posted here detailed information about this.
 
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