[Solarity]

Looking at getting an 8700K, though no one has them in stock and I don't want to buy from a scalper. I see the following sources:

Newegg: $420 - OoS, no wait list, auto-notify
B&H Photo: $400 - OoS, has wait list, no data on what spot you are in, ETA on delivery 11/13/17.
ShopBLT: $388 - OoS, has wait list, though gives more details on stock and orders, ETA 11/13 & 11/16.

I have used Newegg, though never B&H and ShopBLT. I have heard read some negative things about ShopBLT, though wondering if anyone has any first hand experience. Has anyone got an 8700k from BLT?

I am not going to order from more than one place.

It also seems that some people who ordered a month ago haven't received the CPU yet. This takes me back to the days of ordering an AMD 1.2Ghz and the a7m266.

 

[Technodox]

Make sure you know the maximum safe voltage for this chip. I dont think its well known what the safe maximum for this chip is. Usually, 6 and 8 core chips are more prone to voltage damage since previous generations. Also, note that they run hotter too, so likely a combo of over volting and heat will reduce their lifespan at 5Ghz.

 

[CyberWolf575]

I just got one, I went to nowinstock.net and added it to SMS(Text), notifications, I got a text from them that it was in stock on newegg, the text comes with a link to the item, I clicked it and was able to order one. They come back in stock every few days, but only 1 chip will come in stock, and you can snag it.

 

[Solarity]

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Originally Posted by Technodox

Make sure you know the maximum safe voltage for this chip. I dont think its well known what the safe maximum for this chip is. Usually, 6 and 8 core chips are more prone to voltage damage since previous generations. Also, note that they run hotter too, so likely a combo of over volting and heat will reduce their lifespan at 5Ghz.

I am going to run a dual 360mmx30mm custom loop for this and I always OC conservatively, I keep a good margin under the max voltage and run stress tests till I find the good balance of speed and tempature.

 

[SavantStrike]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Technodox

Make sure you know the maximum safe voltage for this chip. I dont think its well known what the safe maximum for this chip is. Usually, 6 and 8 core chips are more prone to voltage damage since previous generations. Also, note that they run hotter too, so likely a combo of over volting and heat will reduce their lifespan at 5Ghz.

Electromigration is a function of voltage and heat. Process and component design are the driving factors here. A coffee lake i3 should have the same voltage tolerance as a coffee lake i7, and both should be similar to Kaby lake - if you keep them cool. A lot of people don't because they simply can't keep temps down.

 

[amstech]

Ummm ebay?
I see them all over.

 

[Solarity]

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Originally Posted by CyberWolf575

I just got one, I went to nowinstock.net and added it to SMS(Text), notifications, I got a text from them that it was in stock on newegg, the text comes with a link to the item, I clicked it and was able to order one. They come back in stock every few days, but only 1 chip will come in stock, and you can snag it.

That site is awesome, granted slightly rudimentary. it even shows past numbers. Thanks for the suggestion! It seems like people are buying them faster than they can be scanned in as they show going in and out of stock multiple times within a short period of time, before going fully out of stock. It also seems like you have to buy it within 10 minutes of the in-stock notification to get one.
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Originally Posted by amstech

Ummm ebay?
I see them all over.

Yeah, though as I originally, said I don't want to buy it from a scalper. i.e. I don't want to buy from someone who bought it for the intended purpose of reselling it for a higher price or someone who bought multiple to take a peak at the silicone lottery, before reselling the lower preforming one on eBay.

 

[amstech]

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Originally Posted by Solarity

Yeah, though as I originally, said I don't want to buy it from a scalper. i.e. I don't want to buy from someone who bought it for the intended purpose of reselling it for a higher price or someone who bought multiple to take a peak at the silicone lottery, before reselling the lower preforming one on eBay.

Umm I don't think you know what eBay is.
They are full of actual companies/sellers with amazing feedback, thousands of items sold and guaranteed products.
Even Newegg sell on ebay.

Here is a guy with 4000 items sold, 100% positive feedback.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-Coffee-Lake-6-Core-3-7-GHz-LGA-1151-Brand-New-/202104519095?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10

These are NEW IN BOX, UNOPENED.

There are a bunch of solid, quality sellers with 8700k's for varying prices on ebay.
I used Amazon/Newegg to find what I want, then I finder a cheaper price on eBay for the exact same product, new in box.
Also, If you think eBay is just a marketplace for scalpers then your a fool.

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[Varinn]

Quote:

Originally Posted by amstech

Umm I don't think you know what eBay is.
They are full of actual companies/sellers with amazing feedback, thousands of items sold and guaranteed products.
Even Newegg sell on ebay.

Here is a guy with 4000 items sold, 100% positive feedback.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-Coffee-Lake-6-Core-3-7-GHz-LGA-1151-Brand-New-/202104519095?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10

These are NEW IN BOX, UNOPENED.

There are a bunch of solid, quality sellers with 8700k's for varying prices on ebay.
I used Amazon/Newegg to find what I want, then I finder a cheaper price on eBay for the exact same product, new in box.
Also, If you think eBay is just a marketplace for scalpers then your a fool.

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I think your link has sort of gone with exactly what he is saying though, this guy is selling (or reselling) an 8700k at a markup far above MSRP from standard vendors. I agree with Solarity that I wouldn't be spending an extra 25% to buy from a seller that is flipping the new hotness for large profits.

nowinstock.net worked for me in Canada and I got one from Newegg.ca for MSRP.

 

[Solarity]

Quote:

Originally Posted by amstech

Umm I don't think you know what eBay is.
They are full of actual companies/sellers with amazing feedback, thousands of items sold and guaranteed products.
Even Newegg sell on ebay.

Here is a guy with 4000 items sold, 100% positive feedback.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-Coffee-Lake-6-Core-3-7-GHz-LGA-1151-Brand-New-/202104519095?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10

There are a bunch of solid, quality sellers with 8700k's for varying prices on ebay.
I used Amazon/Newegg to find what I want, then I finder a cheaper price on eBay for the exact same product, new in box. I don't find a better price on eBay.
Also, If you think eBay is just a marketplace for scalpers then your a fool.

You just proved my point, he is selling it for $100 more than when Newegg, Amazon, and B&H have them in stock and he only has a total of two items listed for sale with only one quantity of each. I use eBay all the time and have been using it since the mid 90's. I even just bought a well priced ASUS Monitor from Newegg on eBay for a great price this weekend. I am not saying everyone on eBay is a scalper. I already skimmed through it days ago, though pretty much anyone selling the 8700k on eBay right now bought it from Amazon/Newegg and are trying to sell it for a profit. I don't care for that tactic, so I won't buy from someone selling it in that fashion. I don't need a CPU that badly. Not to mention possible problems of returns/exchanges, if I encounter a faulty CPU.

In this particular situation of buying a CPU, I will not buy from eBay, unless Newegg or a similarly large company posts a bunch of them. Though as they are flying off the shelves at the stores, I don't see this happening for a while.

CyberWolf supplied me with the answer I was seeking.

 

[amstech]

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Originally Posted by Solarity

You just proved my point, he is selling it for $100 more than when Newegg, Amazon, and B&H have them in stock and he only has a total of two items listed for sale with only one quantity of each. I use eBay all the time and have been using it since the mid 90's..

Can't drink the coffee while its hot, you will burn your tongue!
Hey I know it may be hard to find an 8700K at cost or near it, I was just trying to help you find your CPU brotha!

 

[chessmyantidrug]

I guess showing a listing that has an i7-8700K priced about $160 above MSRP is helping. Not sure who it's helping though.

I'm waiting until the prices settle down and can actually snag one for a discount at Microcenter. Then again, I'm in no hurry.

 

[Solarity]

Quote:

Originally Posted by amstech

Can't drink the coffee while its hot, you will burn your tongue!
Hey I know it may be hard to find an 8700K at cost or near it, I was just trying to help you find your CPU brotha!

I will let the coffee cool down or wait for a fresh brew from Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts, rather than buy a cup from the guy in the ally

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Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug

I guess showing a listing that has an i7-8700K priced about $160 above MSRP is helping. Not sure who it's helping though.

I'm waiting until the prices settle down and can actually snag one for a discount at Microcenter. Then again, I'm in no hurry.

This is more for my old man, he wants to build a new machine and hand his old system down to my nephew. With the newest Gen CPU, he can wait another few years, till he has to upgrade. I may or may not get one. He has been wanting to hand it down for a while and we decided to wait till for the 8700k. The added cores will more so future proof it. My current CPU OC can handle what I am throwing at it for now. Though it would be to have similar hardware, when/if he has a problem.

My current hardware bottleneck is my wife, "you got a new system 5 years ago!"

 

[amstech]

Quote:

Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug

I guess showing a listing that has an i7-8700K priced about $160 above MSRP is helping. Not sure who it's helping though. .

There are new 8700K's on ebay for $460-$500.
But i'll back off, and good luck to the OP, someone will have one in stock.

 

[chessmyantidrug]

MSRP on an i7-8700K is $360. Why would anyone willingly spend $100 or more over MSRP?

More to the topic at hand, what will he be using the system for? Does he need an i7? What system is being replaced? What about that system does he not like? Any system based on Sandy Bridge or newer architecture is still relevant today, depending on the tasks. An i5-8400 should give him a lot of mileage. Putting a locked processor in a motherboard that supports overclocking isn't a complete waste. The Z chipset typically offers more HSIO lanes, supports more USB and SATA ports, as well as support for SLI or CrossFire. The SLI/CF support means less with how powerful video cards have gotten, but the extra HSIO lanes and USB and SATA ports could be useful.

 

[Tristanguy1224]

I work at a Micro Center. I just picked one up for 377 with my discount. I can get them and ship them to anyone....