[BIStudio] Full Steam Ahead - ARMA3 to require STEAM
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Good job though.
I'm just going to assume that you're referring to The War Z, and agree with you on the basis that Arma 3 has nothing to do with that game.Originally Posted by Higgins
This literally has nothing to do with Day Z, or what happened when it was released.
Good job though.
Good job though.
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But it doesn't have anything to do with DayZ at the moment. The standalone is based off the Arma II engine.Originally Posted by Alecthar
I'm just going to assume that you're referring to The War Z, and agree with you on the basis that Arma 3 has nothing to do with that game.
Good job though.
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In steam we trust.
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sickeningOriginally Posted by Samoflange
In steam we trust.
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Have fun with Uplay, and Origin.Originally Posted by sausageson
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Or how about have fun with no drm at all? or are you too young to remember that?Originally Posted by Blindrage606
Have fun with Uplay, and Origin.
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That being said, I don't think Steam should be mandatory, but as a DRM service its pretty lenient.
I remember when DRM was much worse then steam if that counts. I couldn't install a game more then three times or the serial would be blocked, or having StarForce installed on my pc... Thanks to steam this isn't an issue anymore.Originally Posted by sausageson
Or how about have fun with no drm at all? or are you too young to remember that?
That being said, I don't think Steam should be mandatory, but as a DRM service its pretty lenient.
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My opinion on the matter is that DRM for the sake of DRM is a bad thing, but always online services like steam, ESPECIALLY when they offer offline mode, are the way of the future. Look at it from the dev's point of view. There's a streamlined distribution platform that makes your game that much easier to produce and you can focus on a single version instead of distributing your patching teams to standalone and steam. Right now, Arma II is a complete PITA to work on because of the varied versions. That's a pain for the customer and it's a pain for the developers.
Again, I'm not for the service JUST for the sake of the service, but it IS a better platform that offers tangible features and is as consumer-friendly as it can be. In today's world, with 99.99% of computers being online all the time, it's somewhat of a luddite approach to treat steam integration as you would, say, Ubisoft's old DRM.
I do, but I didn't and don't agree with them.Originally Posted by StormXLR
Skyrim was just like that, dint see complaints there...
My opinion on the matter is that DRM for the sake of DRM is a bad thing, but always online services like steam, ESPECIALLY when they offer offline mode, are the way of the future. Look at it from the dev's point of view. There's a streamlined distribution platform that makes your game that much easier to produce and you can focus on a single version instead of distributing your patching teams to standalone and steam. Right now, Arma II is a complete PITA to work on because of the varied versions. That's a pain for the customer and it's a pain for the developers.
Again, I'm not for the service JUST for the sake of the service, but it IS a better platform that offers tangible features and is as consumer-friendly as it can be. In today's world, with 99.99% of computers being online all the time, it's somewhat of a luddite approach to treat steam integration as you would, say, Ubisoft's old DRM.
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It is kind of relevant to DayZ, though, because the standalone will be using Steam as well, but is more understandable because it is an online game and not single player.
However, I feel ArmA3 using Steam is a good thing despite it being a single player game as well. BIS seems to have some pretty solid reasons for going with Steam.
This kind of thing is exactly what Hammerpoint was hoping for when coming up with the WarZ and exactly why Dean Hall (DayZ dev.) is so upset about the whole situation. DayZ mod or standalone =/= The WarZ.Originally Posted by Higgins
This literally has nothing to do with Day Z, or what happened when it was released.
Good job though.
It is kind of relevant to DayZ, though, because the standalone will be using Steam as well, but is more understandable because it is an online game and not single player.
However, I feel ArmA3 using Steam is a good thing despite it being a single player game as well. BIS seems to have some pretty solid reasons for going with Steam.
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The only time I and the majority of the real playerbase have used it is for mission creation for our units/clans/what ever you want to call them.
Since when is ArmA a single player game?Originally Posted by moocowman
This kind of thing is exactly what Hammerpoint was hoping for when coming up with the WarZ and exactly why Dean Hall (DayZ dev.) is so upset about the whole situation. DayZ mod or standalone =/= The WarZ.
It is kind of relevant to DayZ, though, because the standalone will be using Steam as well, but is more understandable because it is an online game and not single player.
However, I feel ArmA3 using Steam is a good thing despite it being a single player game as well. BIS seems to have some pretty solid reasons for going with Steam.
The only time I and the majority of the real playerbase have used it is for mission creation for our units/clans/what ever you want to call them.
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I move a lot too. I also don't even have a CD drive anymore. Online distro is it.
Basically this. If I was a DEV I wouldn't even consider selling it at a retail store. Even when you buy a copy of GTA IV, there are discrepancies between the steam version and the boxed version, which affects sometimes how you can play certain mods and such, or what you have to do if you have a particular version of the game. Which is a total pain. Remember going out and downloading all the patches whenever you got a new computer, or had to do a re install of the game? I think the original CoD had like 7 patches or something like that. I had a CD that had all the patches loaded, I would reformat or re-install so many times. The game also had like 4 CD's. Switching to DVD's is fine, but basically, you still need the CD in the drive to play the game.Originally Posted by un1b4ll
I do, but I didn't and don't agree with them.
My opinion on the matter is that DRM for the sake of DRM is a bad thing, but always online services like steam, ESPECIALLY when they offer offline mode, are the way of the future. Look at it from the dev's point of view. There's a streamlined distribution platform that makes your game that much easier to produce and you can focus on a single version instead of distributing your patching teams to standalone and steam. Right now, Arma II is a complete PITA to work on because of the varied versions. That's a pain for the customer and it's a pain for the developers.
Again, I'm not for the service JUST for the sake of the service, but it IS a better platform that offers tangible features and is as consumer-friendly as it can be. In today's world, with 99.99% of computers being online all the time, it's somewhat of a luddite approach to treat steam integration as you would, say, Ubisoft's old DRM.
I move a lot too. I also don't even have a CD drive anymore. Online distro is it.
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For Steam, not sure if still required Steam to load a first time, but I use direct shortcuts to the Arma .exe file for several server groups. Works great without steam even running.
I wonder if ArmA3 will be the same way.
I find the campaign missions quite fun actually. Some missions can be a little weak but overall enjoyable.Originally Posted by Sir Amik Vase
Since when is ArmA a single player game?
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For Steam, not sure if still required Steam to load a first time, but I use direct shortcuts to the Arma .exe file for several server groups. Works great without steam even running.
I wonder if ArmA3 will be the same way.
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If you can have fun with the low grade non drm games these days with the occasional, once in a blue moon, AAA non DRM game, then more power to you.
I myself, will continue to use steam and take my entire gaming library and all my save games wherever I go without even having to pack my computer. Any computer I can install Steam on is a viable gaming machine for me with all my games at my fingertips.
And in terms of DRM, trust in company running that DRM and a few other factors, Steam wins. Origin? UPlay? yeah, ok. -snicker-.
Has nothing to do with age or who remembers no drm. Fact of the matter is, DRM is here now and is likely going to stay with more and more adopters of it every year.Originally Posted by sausageson
Or how about have fun with no drm at all? or are you too young to remember that?
If you can have fun with the low grade non drm games these days with the occasional, once in a blue moon, AAA non DRM game, then more power to you.
I myself, will continue to use steam and take my entire gaming library and all my save games wherever I go without even having to pack my computer. Any computer I can install Steam on is a viable gaming machine for me with all my games at my fingertips.
And in terms of DRM, trust in company running that DRM and a few other factors, Steam wins. Origin? UPlay? yeah, ok. -snicker-.
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Since you can play missions, training, the armory with no requirement to be online? I'm not saying it's single player only if that's what you're getting at.. hence the "as well" after "single-player."Originally Posted by Sir Amik Vase
Since when is ArmA a single player game?
The only time I and the majority of the real playerbase have used it is for mission creation for our units/clans/what ever you want to call them.
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ArmA 2 doesn't require steam which is why it's not required to launch it. You could buy the game through many other places aside from Steam and have it function without it (I bought it through GOG.com and it has no connection to Steam). ArmA 3 will be using Steam for more reasons than just being a DRM and a digital distribution platform.Originally Posted by Aparition
I find the campaign missions quite fun actually. Some missions can be a little weak but overall enjoyable.
For Steam, not sure if still required Steam to load a first time, but I use direct shortcuts to the Arma .exe file for several server groups. Works great without steam even running.
I wonder if ArmA3 will be the same way.
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