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[Bit-Tech] Where is bit-tech's GeForce GTS 250 review?

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Where is bit-tech's GeForce GTS 250 review?
Posted at 12:53 by Tim Smalley with 6 comments

You've probably heard the news by now: Nvidia announced the GeForce GTS 250 this morning at CeBIT and yes, the rumours are true - it's a rebranded GeForce 9800 GTX+.

But that's not the real story.

Normally, you'd expect us to have a review of the card on launch day, but that is sadly something we haven't been allowed to do. Nvidia had remained uncharacteristically quiet - both on and off the record - about the GeForce GTS 250 for one reason or another and we didn't find out about the card until Tuesday last week.

On Thursday, we had a conference call and were essentially told in no uncertain terms that we wouldn't get a sample before launch. But why?

This is where things get a bit trickier because Nvidia palmed us off to the partners - it said that it wasn't sending out reference cards and they'd instead be coming from partners. What we found strange about this was that, typically, in the run up to a graphics card launch we receive anywhere between five and ten calls from add-in board partners, asking us to look at their new products.

We didn't receive a single call this time around.

Instead, we had to resort to making those calls ourselves and, to our surprise, the general consensus from partners was that they were prohibited from sending samples to bit-tech and Custom PC before launch.

One partner, who wished to remain nameless said "[we are] absolutely strictly forbidden to send samples out until the launch date.... it's rubbish!" Another said it was instructed by Nvidia to send samples to specific websites which, the partner admitted, it had never even heard of.

We spoke to six partners before the launch and not one said it was allowed to sample us before the launch. Several said they were able to help us out "after CeBIT", but by that time it's old news and, frankly, I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

I spoke to Nvidia last night and the company actively denied its involvement in the sampling process and, upon further probing, the company's representatives said that sample allocations came down to "relationships with Nvidia and its partners". When I asked if something in bit-tech's relationship with Nvidia had changed since the GeForce GTX 295 and 285 launches, Bryan Del Rizzo, a Senior PR Manager at Nvidia, said that nothing had changed. "We have a great relationship with bit-tech," he added.

We asked the same question when speaking to partners all week and they said exactly the same thing, which means that someone, somewhere, is getting in the way of the sampling process. The question is: why would the partners lie to us? They have no reason to because our relationship has always been tight and they've been up front when they have sample allocation issues.

Nvidia said it is cutting back on samples (as are the partners) and that allocation is tight. However, since we've managed to get a card same day couriered to us today, you have to wonder if the situation would have been different had the card been something to shout about.

While we wait for our card to arrive, we're going to be playing with our GeForce GTS 250 TipeXXX Edition... It's wicked fast.

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man...

there really should be more backlash because of this rebranding. sounds to me like nvidia is sore at bit-tech for some reason
Its basically Nvidia refuses to let people who will do honest reviews get their hands on the cards until they are in retail channels because they are scared it'll call them on their rebrand **** and 'affect sales'
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While we wait for our card to arrive, we're going to be playing with our GeForce GTS 250 TipeXXX Edition... It's wicked fast.

I see what you did there.
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interesting
So INQ was right?
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So INQ was right?


I talk to a few of the bit lads on Twitter and their forums and some of them are friends with Sylvie Barak from the INQ so it honestly wouldnt suprise me if they got the story FROM bit
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I talk to a few of the bit lads on Twitter and their forums and some of them are friends with Sylvie Barak from the INQ so it honestly wouldnt suprise me if they got the story FROM bit

But INQ published a week ago....
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This article is just the icing on the cake when it comes to the GTS 250 rebranding. I remember an article last week in regards to nVidia sending out higher spec'd GTS 250 cards to reviewers but having their board vendors build slightly lower spec'd cards for retail. Can't find it now but honestly, how much more crap can this whole GTS 250 debacle go through?
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This article is just the icing on the cake when it comes to the GTS 250 rebranding. I remember an article last week in regards to nVidia sending out higher spec'd GTS 250 cards to reviewers but having their board vendors build slightly lower spec'd cards for retail. Can't find it now but honestly, how much more crap can this whole GTS 250 debacle go through?

From the reviews I've searched, the "higher spec'd" cards that are being sent out are those branded as OC editions (EVGA SuperClocked and BFG OC). So far I've only seen one site (PCPer) that reviewed a reference card (Palit 1GB reference model), which performed identically to a 9800GTX+.

Of course, we still haven't had benchmarks of cards bought from retail, so we won't really know until then. For now, I don't think the rumor about nVidia sending out cherry-picked, higher-spec'd cards is true. It's possibly just a misunderstanding that most of the pre-release reviews we'll see will be of OC editions.
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^ Thinking about it now, I almost wanna say the article was from INQ so not sure how reliable the information is. This was last week so it could have just been speculation as to why cards for reviewers were higher spec'd.
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But INQ published a week ago....

Yeah i know mate, but what day did they publish on? as said in the OP they found out about the card tuesday last week, and had the conference call with Nvidia on Thursday

EDIT: just checked the INQ posted the story on Monday so my bad, maybe its the INQ that tipped the boys at Bit off
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This article is just the icing on the cake when it comes to the GTS 250 rebranding. I remember an article last week in regards to nVidia sending out higher spec'd GTS 250 cards to reviewers but having their board vendors build slightly lower spec'd cards for retail. Can't find it now but honestly, how much more crap can this whole GTS 250 debacle go through?
i read that article as well man. Not sure where, want to say it was in the news section here..... but I know what you are talking about...
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