[cdoublejj]

2 cpu coolers and hours of lapping and mother board install later temo are only getting hotter and hotter.

I am dealing with with an increasing temper and temperatures.
I am running some decent stuff

Antec ECO 400

ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi/AP

Core 2 quad Q600

ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 PWM

COOLER MASTER Hyper N 520 RR-920-N520-GP 92mm

Temps actually got Fed up after the first lap job on the nirvana and the C2Q. Running overclocked i was running up in the 80s

Simple Enough we just razor blade checked the Nirvana and the CPU, the CPU was fine the Nirvana was lil jack up so we corrected the best we could how ever temps didn't get better so i sent it out for machining to have aroun 10 thousand milled off the cpu surface.

While waiting for the Nirvana i say the N 520 was on sale and got that and figured i'd sell the nirvana locally. Got the N 520 installed temps were decent though it was running Stock but. looked promising how ever my ram needed RMAed cause 1 stick was bad.

So it sat for a few days waiting for ram. Well i got the ram the other night and and the temps got lil bit higher idling in the lower 30s on stock clocks instead of the upper 20s.

So i figured maybe the the max temps won't be too bad even the though the idel isn't so great. Well i hit the 80s again.

Now i'm really starting to get diss heartened, so i pull half the machine apart and remount the cooler and even used the mechanical pencil tip mod on the arctic silver tube.

after scraping my self up and pending the time to get the damn board back in i'm hitting 40c in just the bios stock clocks. I'm a little bit pissed and stressed and not even sure i have the motivation to go even look at the machine again. at this point i got so pissed i just threw every thing off the table and walked away.

I installed every thing right and have a really good insight on the thermal paste application better then most people

 

[angrysasquatch]

Your temps mean nothing without ambients.

 

[cdoublejj]

Quote:

Originally Posted by angrysasquatch your temps mean nothing without ambients.

60-70f

 

[XAslanX]

What program are you using to monitor the temps? It could very well be a stuck or broken temp sensor and no matter how much you lap it and re seats you do it will be the same temp. As long as the computer isn't shutting down when it is hitting 80 I wouldn't worry about anything. Also feel the heatsink near center of the CPU and see if feels hot, if so, the HS is doing it's job.

 

[AddictedGamer93]

I say it's your case unless you've installed some aftermarket fans.

 

[cdoublejj]

it's an asus T10AB it's probably over 10 years old now. it only has an 80mm in the back how ever it's a tornado it has the power to blow any paper work in the near vicinity all over the place.

I also mounted it on the out side helps the flow in the case. as far as the case it was one of the early ones to have a rear exhaust fan and features like being able to mount the PSU right side up and upside down. it's actually fairly sturdy too as it's made of steel. IT was pretty high end in it's day.

IT has little sentimental value to me, but have been thinking of switching to the antec P180 but, it needs work.

that aside the N 520 actually gets warm where the nirvana was always cold. The base does get warm. also all my spreads look decent. maybe it is a fubar sensor, witch gives me ideas.

If i can trick the sensor then i can know it's off. if take the CPU out and out it on the tech station and get the room real cold and then check the ambient in bios.

if it's higher than normal BAM, we have a g6600 in the building too i can compare them. please note my cpu is q6700 i believe i made mistake in my first post.

I'm going in to work tomorrow to go work on it.... I think...

I have been using CPU-Z, HWmonitor, Prime95, and memtest86+

think i'll bring one of those laser temp readers too.

 

[Lord Xeb]

Did you set the TjMax correctly?

 

[bleach]

This may be silly, but is the HSF loose? can you check and see if that is the case?

 

[cdoublejj]

Technically thats not silly, i did check it seems it's on there tight. Lord Xeb makes good point, i saw on article here on TJmax and true temps. I wonder if mine is just way off. I suck at math so TJmax is kinda hard to grasp.

 

[PhillyOverclocker]

Maybe I missed it, but is this overclocked or at stock?

 

[Trippen Out]

Open side of case
Grab big box fan
Stick said box fan directly next to open case
Crank Box fan to maximum output

If your temps drop then you have Crap airflow. Replace with new case. Also if you have a different cpu to swap out and run under the same cooling in the same environment and you see better results. Then i would also conclude stuck thermal sensor

 

[j.col]

download realtemp and run it.
what is the tjmax value in realtemp? for a G0 revision Q6600 the tjmax is 100.

but its not important as its the "distance to tjmax" that is important as this never changes no matter what value your tjmax is set at.

when stress testing, never let it go lower than 20,
so as an example, even if its saying your temps are 80.C but you have distance to tjmax as 30 you are fine (and your tjmax is wrong as 80 + 30=110)

also realtemp has a sensor test, if you run this, you will see if you have a stuck temp sensor,
this is also called a cpu cool down test, details here http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/docs.php

also try test above or just remove the side and see if the temps are lower.
is there any way you can try a different HSF on your cpu? it may be worth a try

 

[cdoublejj]

both, it runs hot either way i just bread borded it on tech station with yet another fresh install on the heat sink i also installed some paper washers under the nuts for more tension it i guess inlets just run hot. it will just have to run like that so long as it doesn't get so hot that it throttles.

I can say thing much overclocking really helps to pump up the temps my max temps as just an hour ago were 51c max on stock and about 77c oc. also take in to account most programs to hammer a cpu the same why prime95 does. also the cpu draws more watts when you raise the volts.

also the exterior temps are much cooler than the hwmonitor temps the bottom of the board doesn't seem to get very hot either other wise the bread board it's self would start to heat up.

EDIT: didn't notice a 2nd page i will go over those posts to and look at real temp



thought i'd post screenie

 

[Viridian]

What voltages are you at?

 

[scyy]

CPUTIN is what you need to worry about, that's what the max temps are referring to.

EDIT: nvm 60 is considered max safe temp for q6600's that is normally a conservative number but still not good to be over it.

 

[Falkentyne]

I can't even see your vcore ~_~
And the temps are probably fine. Could be high for one of two reasons:
Low vid hot running CPU
or bad solder connection inside the IHS. and there isn't anything you can do about #2, unless you want to risk destroying the CPU.

I had a QX9650 that ran HOT, 15C hotter than my first QX9650, but it ran at 4 ghz 1.28v (VERY low for a QX9650!!) on a different motherboard! Probably because it was a low vid "leaky" chip.

If we know the vcore, then we can see if those temps are good or not.
If it's at 1.45v or higher, then those temps are perfectly normal for prime small FFT, but not normal for Blend...Blend should be over 10C cooler than small FFT on core 2 quads.

 

[cdoublejj]

my bios is set 1.475 atm but, as we know the bios isn't always dead on. whats the VID all about and how do i find it?

idle
load

Also that IS indeed blend test, wouldn't blend get hotter as it test both cpu and ram?

EDIT: just bumped to 1.48

 

[cdoublejj]

so i bumped it up to 1.49

 

[Zcypot]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trippen Out Open side of case Grab big box fan Stick said box fan directly next to open case Crank Box fan to maximum output If your temps drop then you have Crap airflow. Replace with new case. Also if you have a different cpu to swap out and run under the same cooling in the same environment and you see better results. Then i would also conclude stuck thermal sensor

This is how I use to have my OLD pc

 

[cdoublejj]

yeah i did that last night didn't make ANY difference at all the temps kept stable and fluctuated as if there wasn't any thing there. Looks like the temps are off or this is how it runs. I still have yet to check out realtemp.