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So my buddy wants me to build him a budget gaming rig so he can play Swotor mainly. he wants a console replacement for $650.

i am an intel fanboi but i want to make him an AMD rig because its cheaper. so you AMD guys, can you explain to me the FX series cpus?

im thinking of building a rig without a gpu and just going straight AMD FX chips. will the APU of the FX-6100 or FX-8120 have enough juice to run Swotor and some other games without a discrete card?

thanks everyone!
 

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instead of a 8120, why not go for a Phenom II x6, since it's a budget pc, I'm sure he'll want to upgrade anyway. and the 8 cores are just a waste.
as a matter of fact get x4 935, it's more than adequate for the game

I don't think the onboard can handle SWTOR, that game look pretty good, the onboard might play, but it'll look bad
 

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for real? i thought that the gpu integrated in the fx chips was like a mid/low end gpu?
 

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I'm an AMD fanboy and I think he should get an I3 with 8gigs of ram and 6850 or 5770. That should easily fall under 650 and it will be more powerful than current amd offerings. AMD just isn't terribly competitive for desktops atm, hopefully piledriver changes that.
 

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Originally Posted by Chimeracaust View Post

I'm an AMD fanboy and I think he should get an I3 with 8gigs of ram and 6850 or 5770. That should easily fall under 650 and it will be more powerful than current amd offerings. AMD just isn't terribly competitive for desktops atm, hopefully piledriver changes that.
even though intel would be better here, the prices for a good mobo might push him over his limit, not to mention all the other stuff.

i'm really pessimistic about piledriver, right now the only good thing about AMD is the competitive GPUs they make

oops, I got liano confused
 

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The FX Series does not have a integrated GPU, therefore, he needs a stand alone GPU to be able to use it at all.
He should rather get a i3 2100 due to Intel's integrated 3000 Graphics which is able to play GTA IV @ 25 fps.

 

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GTA IV is optimized for 4 true cores, in which case the FX and Phenom II should provide somewhat better performance.

Specifics for this build - what's needed? Tower only? OS? Monitor? Peripherals?
 

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if you live by a micro center, they always have killer deals on phenom II x4 and x6 cpu/mobo combos. i would start there. i built a little lan pc about a year ago mostly from parts i got from my local micro center and spent exactly $650.
 

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CPU: Phenom II x4 925 is only $85 this weekend.
OR: 960T x4 is nice. Chance to unlock 1 or 2 additional cores. $125

Mobo: ASRock 970 Extreme3 $97 Shipped.

RAM: G.Skill Sniper 2x4GB $44

PSU: Seasonic S12II 620w $70 (520w version of this only some $4 less)

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 $60

HDD: WD Cav Blue 320GB $67 Shipped.

CD/DVD Drive: Samsung $16

GPU: Asus 6850 $167 Shipped. $147 after MIR.

CPU Cooler: (925 is OEM) Hyper 212+ ~$27

$633. $613 after MIR.

If you need a monitor, then this stuff will have to be re-tooled. If you do though:

Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5 $154 Shipped. $144 after MIR. I own it, Gorgeous.

Same with OS and stuff..
 

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Shame Microcenter doesn't have the Phenom II x4 830 for $50 anymore as it's just a 925 with a different name. My friend is running at nearly 3.9ghz on his.
 

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he needs an entire tower build, no monitor. this includes windows 7, HDD, MOBO, Ram, disc drive, cpu, (stock cpu cooler is fine he doesnt know how to OC and im not gonna do it for him lol), case, and gpu (if cpu graphics wont do it)

edit OH AND PSU!
 

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CPU: Phenom II x4 925 is only $85 this weekend.
OR: 960T x4 is nice. Chance to unlock 1 or 2 additional cores. $125
Mobo: ASRock 970 Extreme3 $97 Shipped.
RAM: G.Skill Sniper 2x4GB $44
PSU: Seasonic S12II 620w $70 (520w version of this only some $4 less)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 $60
HDD: WD Cav Blue 320GB $67 Shipped.
CD/DVD Drive: Samsung $16
GPU: Asus 6850 $167 Shipped. $147 after MIR.
CPU Cooler: (925 is OEM) Hyper 212+ ~$27
$633. $613 after MIR.
If you need a monitor, then this stuff will have to be re-tooled. If you do though:
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5 $154 Shipped. $144 after MIR. I own it, Gorgeous.
Same with OS and stuff..
this would work but he needs windows also. he has a monitor so were good there
 

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EDIT: Forgot RAM, sorry

Total supercombo cost inclusive of shipping:
$531 + $33 shipping - $564 shipped, $554 after rebate

xd's combo:


Initial cost: $595.84 shipped [$32 over budget]

Cost after 1-2 weeks (after rebates, both have the option of no-wait rebate which speeds up processing time):

$551 shipped

Savings over supercombo after rebate price: $3

There are several possible ways that you could adjust the before rebate price to match or beat the Supercombo before rebate price but I decided to rely on an after-rebate price this time around so that quality parts can be chosen. Because the rebates return in 1-2 weeks, both offering no wait service, I think it's tolerable.

Several advantages:

  • The GA-78LMT-S2P has a 4+1 phase VRM with more capacity
  • The Radeon HD 6870 is well ahead of the 6850
  • The OCZ ZS 550W is well ahead of the Corsair CX 500 V2 in supply capacity/quality

I don't actually recommend you buy the combo I put out above. That is only meant to show that Supercombos are RIPOFFS and should be avoided at all costs.

A well balanced build for ~$580 shipped puts more emphasis on a good CPU and GPU and overclocking-friendly items (i.e. better board), while lowering the priority for things such as the computer case.

This is what I suggest for $580:


Initial cost: $594 shipped

Cost after 1-2 weeks (rebates): $549 shipped
 

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The A8-3850 has a low/mid end GPU, which makes everything playable (~40 fps) on low/Med.

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