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Planned content for this thread:

  1. Going to try clean the PSU best I can, possibly with the help of an electrician depending on warranty ✓
  2. Going to post overclocking results and settings ✓
  3. Possibly an in game performance comparison too, either old vs new or stock vs overclocked.
  4. Review the hardware
  5. Definetly want to find out if frequency or timings is better in at least 2 CPU bottlenecked games once overclocked. ✓

Heaps of good games are coming out that my computer simply cant run properly on good settings, The Division, XCom 2 and I want to play SFV too.
I really wanted Pascal but dont wanna risk having to wait 5 months.

This is my 1st time ever buying a flagship GPU and despite the hardware being not so new and the build being nothing special its a considerable amount of money.

This build takes from experience I have had with other builds:

Test Pipe: Case too small

Storage Monster: Custom loop was too much effort and maintanance

I am using air for the CPU and a closed loop for the GPU which I have heard is a good balance.

Shops used: PC Case Gear, Sillicon Lottery.

Corsair has some cool videos

Reused Hardware:
  • SSDs: Intel 520 240GB x2 Raid 0
  • HDDs: Seagate 3TB 7200RPM x4 in Raid10
  • PSU: Seasonic XP-1000 (4 years of warranty remaining)
  • Sound card: Asus Xonar ST Essence (will be upgraded soon after)

Other stuff:
  • Fan Controler: Corsair Commander Mini Fan controller
  • Wireless: ASUS PCE-AC68 Dual Band Wireless AC1900 PCI-E Adapter
  • Sound: Mayflower Obj2+ODAC v2

Total Cost inc shipping: 2778AUD + 740USD = 2714USD

12/feb/16: Ordered and shipped
14/feb/16: In transit....

Will be posting Pics once it arrives until then:










Pics after arrival



Overclocking results, findings and validation

RAM: +230 3DMark score over Corsair/Intel Specs +1.5%
-1gflops in IBT -0.5%


Benchmark screencaps


Some Best in Slot stuff:

More benchmarks using different setups

More pics
 

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NOTES TO ADD LATER:

Corsair case instructions were from before a design revision, the exploded parts picture doesnt show screws.

1 of the ATX screws was misaligned

The holes for the back of the PSU bracket in the case become easily threaded, this was using the screws that came with the case and a manual screw driver.

My mobo drivers state that the latest firmware contains intel CPU microcode on the download page

My motherboard can be flashed with only a PSU and CPU installed

Nahimic sound drivers require Realtek HD audio drivers to be installed....
 

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Thanks.
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So I have pulled it apart mid build and went for a different set up.
I made a help request thread but no replies: http://www.overclock.net/t/1591361/the-corsair-600q-is-a-whacky-case-need-advice-on-my-current-set-up
The previous setup was negative pressure


I am going for a more typical aproach, 2 intake using cable ties and 1 exhaust which I may change to 2 exhaust later. The 2nd being at the bottom.

Currently downloading Street Fighter V on Storage Monster, really curious to see how it runs before the upgrade.
Edit: It runs at a constant 60fps capped on max settings

This is also the 1st time I will be keeping the same windows installation, guide for that here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZn_hSlT0zk

It will be interesting if I get prompted for the Intel microcode windows update, not that I am overclocking the G4400 but I will reject it anyway due to being buggy.
 

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Corsair Commander mini and my Wireless card arrived today, my CPU is on its way either to a local depot or my address, I will install them all together.

I am managing 1416 coreclock and 3557 memory clock. according to userbench this seems to be the median average. Im happy with these numbers.
 

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Finally got it all working, the motherboard is great but pretty hard to get going, its really finicky.

Anyway I dont have time to OC it just yet because of the division beta so this is the standard settings I got while getting the motherboard to just load an XMP profile:



I will update this post and the OP later on, I have a lot of pics on my phone from the build.

Running the division on ultra

http://t87.imgup.net/graphdf36.png

IBT results, gonna increase to 4.8 or 4.9.
VCore is 1.41

http://i.imgur.com/ertmOIm.jpg
 

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Ive finished all the overclocking including RAM.

Results are:
  • 4.7Ghz [email protected] 1.4v (not gonna bother going lower on vcore as temps are fine great and its within the safe limit)
  • RAM 3600Mhz 18-20-20-44-2T 3333MHz 16-18-18-36-2T 1.4v (again havent tested lower voltage)
  • Motherboard voltages seemed to work best on auto except for the fclk one.
  • GPU Core: 1416Mhz(+100) Mem: 3555(+50) or 7110 as some might say. spent too much time testing different clocks

Tests used:

Furmark: Causes too much stress so uninstalled it
Kombuster: Poor detection
Heaven Benchmark: Passed 30mins no artifacts well maybe some
3Dmark Firestrike Extreme
Realbench 1 hour
IBT extreme 5-10 passes failed 20th pass

RAM results:
Heaven unaffected by RAM speed or timings.

Results


Code:

Code:
3DMark Firestrike 1080p:

All timings 2T, Physics on CPU in NVCP
                        PI        Graphics     Physics    Combined      Total

 3600 18-20-20-40      5          18641        15196           8425        16135
*3333 16-18-17-36      4.8        18629        15144           8285        16068 STABLE 
 3400 18-20-20-38      5.3        18395        15137           8307        15944
 2400 10-12-12-30      4.16       18350        15089           8168        15858
 3200 16-18-18-36      5          18337        15143           8110        15838 STABLE
 2000 10-12-12-30      5          18334        15006           8040        15787

PI = (Cas / Frequency) x 1000 lower == better
* MSI Memory Try It! Samsung
Findings: Combined test is heavily affected by RAM.

4000 - Failed POST
3733 - BSOD on windows startup

CPU-Z validation: http://valid.x86.fr/8yt90b











*current RAM speed only theoretically stable

Todo: Test Cas 15 @ 3600 with IBT and Memtest then benchmark it in Firestrike
Will update this post
 

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The g303




With computers, you can never have enough RAM or Mice.


Uneven sized, supplied screws which threaded my Corsair Case



1 month of dust on the heatsink


4Ghz, beyond my motherboards capabilities without LN2


This was only about 3/4 the ideal amount for good coverage


Dents and residual paste


Lint from tissues


From being kept on the ground, I have never had this happen to a case. Covered in my review


After consulting with an electrician I vacuumed most this dust off.



Out with the old, note the dilapidated hard drive bungie cords.

 

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Originally Posted by MaFi0s0 View Post

Finally got it all working, the motherboard is great but pretty hard to get going, its really finicky.
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Finicky with what? Or in what way?
A drop dead gorgeous motherboard it is. It would look absolutely wicked in an unpainted aluminium or white case.
 

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Originally Posted by Dokter Bibber View Post

Finicky with what? Or in what way?
A drop dead gorgeous motherboard it is. It would look absolutely wicked in an unpainted aluminium or white case.
I recomend against getting an MSI motherboard.

If the USB hubs are not plugged in it wont always post.

Adjusting the overclock usually requires a few failed posts before working even though the OC is tested fully stable.

With the above problems sometimes its a matter of just keep repeating until it works rather than anything specific being wrong.

The PCI slots are particular, you are very limited in where you can put what, forget about SLIx16 or perhaps even x8, right now x8 GPU and x4 SSD is what I managed.

the fan control does not support low fan speeds unless you edit the configuration file in a text editor.

The command centre application requires you to reload such profiles each boot to be configured properly.

there isnt that much RAM on the QVL, I had to RMA one.

Based on all the above MSI simply isnt up to par with Asus and Gigabyte. However I believe its only a matter of time (5 years?) before they figure stuff out.
 
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