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I'd be disappointed if this build had anything less than a threadripper 16 core.
 

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Caught up on yours today! Looking great.....keep it going!
 

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If you don't need 10 cores, the 8 core 1900X Threadripper CPU from AMD with the full 64 PCIE lanes might interest you. Price is going to be around $550, add around $350 for the X399 motherboard and it will be less than the cost of a single i9-7900X. The 1900X will have a higher base clock of 3.8GHz compared to the 12 core (1920X) and 16 core (1950X) units. Suspect the power demand for Threadripper to be around 180W and you've got plenty of radiators to dissipate that heat.<br><br>
Interesting times ahead for those going into HEDT builds as AMD is offering solid options while Intel has been sitting on it's laurels for far too long.<br><br>
As you're willing to wait until end of the year to decide, there will be plenty of reviews comparing Threadripper to Intel's i9. Suspect the value award is going to be with AMD.</div>
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I'd be disappointed if this build had anything less than a threadripper 16 core.</div>
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To all the AMD fans out there... yes I will be giving Threadripper a serious look! The ROG Zenith Extreme motherboard looks great and we should be seeing the reviews coming out shortly <img alt="thinking.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thinking.gif"><br><br><br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26268491" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
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Caught up on yours today! Looking great.....keep it going!</div>
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Welcome and great to have you following along Chris! I spent many hours drooling over the pictures on your <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1266202/build-log-the-big-budget-boomer-box-aka-the-bbbb">BBBB build log</a> which is still my favorite build log of all time <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 

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<b><span style="font-size:16px;">Testing the Bitspower BP-EML16 fittings for 16mm hard tubing</span></b><br><br>
I like builds that use all straight tubing with fittings, and I also like builds that use just tubing with bends. I still have not decided if I'm going to use all fittings, or mostly fittings with some bends only where there is an external 90 degree bend.<br><br>
What I mean by external 90 is like this mock up I did while working on the pump brackets. I want to make sure that the 90 degree fitting hanging out there won't pop off and spray water everywhere (yes I'm slightly paranoid <img alt="tongue.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/tongue.gif">)<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093633/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093633" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093633/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br><br>
When I was first looking into these fittings I found a great "mini-guide" on this <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1592341/anyone-here-builds-with-16mm-rigid-tubing-how-come-so-rare/80#post_25047141">post</a> by <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/407411/Costas">@Costas</a> I used this as a starting point while playing around with these fittings.<br><br>
Here's the Bitspower BP-EML16 fittings.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093635/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093635" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093635/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
Let's take one out of the packet. It comes out of the bag with the collar on, and a secondary o-ring already inside. It looks like it comes with an extra o-ring <img alt="thinking.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thinking.gif"><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093636/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093636" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093636/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
No there are two different sizes of O-rings.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093638/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093638" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093638/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
I couldn't find any information on which one to use. Measuring eight different packets of fittings with a digital caliper the smaller o-ring on the left varied between 2.08mm and 2.12 mm, and the larger O-rings measured between 2.34 and 2.40 mm.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093642/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093642" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093642/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
Here's the fitting as it comes out of the packet. Notice the o-ring isn't really pushed all the way into the groove.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093645/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093645" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093645/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
Costas used a fat felt pen to push the o-ring all the way into the goove. I used the end of my xacto knive.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093647/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093647" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093647/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
Just roll it around a few times.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093648/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093648" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093648/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
This picture is from Costa's post, I put a dab of silicon grease on the o-ring with a toothpick. After my testing was completed I decided that I'll be skipping this step.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093653/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093653" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093653/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 278px"></a><br><br><br>
Then take a small piece of tubing with a nicely sanded edge and push it into the fitting once. Now the o-ring is as far in as possible and will be easier to install the tubing.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093649/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093649" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093649/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
Here's with the two sizes of secondary O-rings, smaller one on the left.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093655/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093655" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093655/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
With the collars screwed down you can see the left one with the smaller o-ring screws down a little more than the right one with the larger o-ring.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093656/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093656" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093656/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
For the testing I decided to put two tubes, with four of the EML16 fittings and a 90 degree fitting under pressure to see how much pressure these fittings can take before a fitting pops off. Now keep in mind this is not a fancy scientific test like you would see from <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/238018/fast-fate">@fast_fate</a> or <a data-huddler-embed="href" href="/u/342848/geggeg">@geggeg</a> , just a workbench test for my own peace of mind.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093657/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093657" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093657/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
The first test I did was using the smaller secondary O-rings and the O-rings inside the fittings lubed with silicon grease. I slowly pumped pressure in. One of the fittings would always pop off with less than 8 psi. Plus they did not feel very secure.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093667/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093667" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093667/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
I swapped out the smaller secondary O-rings for the larger size O-rings, still using the fittings with silicon grease on them. Now I could get to about 8.5 to 9 psi before a fitting would pop off.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093674/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093674" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093674/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
Next I opened up four new packets of the EML16 fittings and skipped putting any silicon grease on the O-rings. I still used the xacto knife and pushed a piece of tubing into the fitting first to seat the o-ring.<br><br>
Using the larger secondary O-rings and pressure it up again. Now this test set-up can hold 11 psi and the fittings feel much better! It would take somewhere between 11 and 12 psi before a fitting would come off.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093677/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093677" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093677/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
I finished that testing several weeks back and realized that I did not test the smaller secondary O-rings with the fittings without any silicon grease, so I ran the test again with just a straight tube and two fittings.<br><br>
Surprisingly I found that both the large and small secondary O-rings would both hold 11 psi and could not hold 12 psi before popping off.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093699/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093699" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093699/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
My conclusion is that I will not be putting any silicon grease in the O-rings. I found the tubing went into the fittings just fine without it anyway. If anything just dip the end of your tubing in some water before inserting it into the fittings.<br><br>
If your tubing run is like this one where there is a fitting on each side that cannot be pushed off then it would be fine to use some silicon grease if you wanted to.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093701/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3093701" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3093701/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
So I will be using the larger size secondary O-rings and no silicon grease.<br><br><br>
Coming up next will be the final pictures of the pump set-up. I just have to finish the sleeving... it looks awesome!
 

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Unless things have changed there spare O-Rings. The smaller one is for the inside of the fitting if you need to replace it. Some forget to edge the sides of the tubing before inserting the tubing. They just tear the o ring apart when they do that.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Barefooter</strong> <a href="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26270016"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br><b><span style="font-size:16px;">I still have not decided if I'm going to use all fittings</span></b></div>
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Shouldn't that line read... <i>"I still have not decided how empty my wallet will be"</i> ....<img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br><br>
In regards to your pressure testing - In practice your loop's working pressure build up is way less than your lowest figure of 8 PSI (unless you have a serious restriction present) so you have plenty of headroom to play with.<br><br>
You will also find that over time (a week or two), the O-rings will actually 'stick' to the tubing and will be much more difficult to remove which was another reason why I chose to add a small amount grease to them.<br><br>
At the end of the day it won't make too much of a difference either way...<br><br>
Looking forward to see you build completed...<img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Costas</strong> <a href="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26270607"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
Shouldn't that line read... <i>"I still have not decided how empty my wallet will be"</i> ....<img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"></div>
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It’s only a <i>little</i> bankrupting…
 

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How did you decide to finish the pump brackets?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Costas</strong> <a href="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/150_30#post_26270607"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
Shouldn't that line read... <i>"I still have not decided how empty my wallet will be"</i> ....<img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"></div>
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No kidding, I could have built a fairly decent secondary rig with the fittings cost alone... LOL! <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Revan654</strong> <a href="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26270123"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
Unless things have changed there spare O-Rings. The smaller one is for the inside of the fitting if you need to replace it. Some forget to edge the sides of the tubing before inserting the tubing. They just tear the o ring apart when they do that.</div>
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I pulled an inside o-ring out and it is indeed the same size as the smaller o-ring. I would think if that was intended as a spare, then the larger one would come pre-installed in the collar.<br><br><br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26270607" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Costas</strong> <a href="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26270607"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
Shouldn't that line read... <i>"I still have not decided how empty my wallet will be"</i> ....<img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br><br>
In regards to your pressure testing - In practice your loop's working pressure build up is way less than your lowest figure of 8 PSI (unless you have a serious restriction present) so you have plenty of headroom to play with.<br><br>
You will also find that over time (a week or two), the O-rings will actually 'stick' to the tubing and will be much more difficult to remove which was another reason why I chose to add a small amount grease to them.<br><br>
At the end of the day it won't make too much of a difference either way...<br><br>
Looking forward to see you build completed...<img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"></div>
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Good to know the o-rings will stick better with time. Yes using all fittings is definitely more expensive!<br><br>
Plus as you know using the larger 16mm tubing actually requires three fittings to make a 90, unlike the smaller size where you can get a single fitting like this.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3096813/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3096813" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3096813/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 500px"></a><br><br>
I really liked the <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1582417/build-log-downunder-sma8-build-d-j-vu/220#post_25111247">fitting spread sheet</a> you did on your 'DownUnder' SMA8 Build - Déjà vu build. I've referenced that several times and may do one here too once the loop is complete.<br><br><br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26271693" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>OCDesign</strong> <a href="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26271693"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
It’s only a <i>little</i> bankrupting…</div>
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You of all people should know <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"> Your <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1544054/build-log-ironbeast-a-fully-water-cooled-x99-quad-gpu-900d-build">IronBeast</a> build has to have the title of "Most fittings in one build"!<br><br><br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26271778" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>cpachris</strong> <a href="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26271778"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
How did you decide to finish the pump brackets?</div>
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The pump brackets are complete and I am thrilled with how they came out! However... I am going to keep you in suspense until I get the final pump pictures done <img alt="tongue.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/tongue.gif"><br><br>
While sleeving the pumps, as I reached for my bottle of Krazy glue I found that it had solidified. My extra bottle was bad too. So I ordered more with two day shipping like 10 days ago and still have not received it yet. Hopefully I will have some nice shots for you soon.<br><br><br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26272939" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>chibi</strong> <a href="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26272939"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
No kidding, I could have built a fairly decent secondary rig with the fittings cost alone... LOL! <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"></div>
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I hear you. Fortunately I bought all the fitting I thought I needed awhile back. Of course as it turns out while installing the reservoirs and the first tube, I needed fittings that I did not have <img alt="rolleyes.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif"><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3096830/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3096830" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3096830/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
Bags of EML16s and 90s<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3096831/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3096831" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3096831/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/160#post_26276235" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
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Subbed... I am interested in the pumps as well...</div>
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Welcome aboard!<br><br><br>
I am hoping to have the final pump pictures up here in the next few days.
 

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The pump brackets are complete and I am thrilled with how they came out! However... I am going to keep you in suspense until I get the final pump pictures done <img alt="tongue.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/tongue.gif"><br></div>
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Such a tease......lol. All options would look fantastic, but I'm secretly rooting for the chrome plating.
 

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Of course as it turns out while installing the reservoirs and the first tube, I needed fittings that I did not have <img alt="rolleyes.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif"></div>
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I'm doing my first WC build, and just realized today I need some 45s and male x male rotaries. Good to hear that the pros do this too lol <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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I pulled an inside o-ring out and it is indeed the same size as the smaller o-ring. I would think if that was intended as a spare, then the larger one would come pre-installed in the collar.<br><br>
Plus as you know using the larger 16mm tubing actually requires three fittings to make a 90, unlike the smaller size where you can get a single fitting like this.<br></div>
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The smaller one fits around most tubing just fine if you know what your doing.<br><br>
I always use whats pre-installed (Both O-Rings). The other two are moot for me. Always remember to get the o-ring wet before trying to install tubing & have the edges of the tubing properly curved so o-ring does not get ripped apart.<br><hr class="bbcode_rule"><br>
That is only true with Bitspower other companies make 90, 45, etc... for 16mm OD. Unless your working with glass, it's easier just to bend the tubing to create 90 or 45 degree bends. Plus you can save a bit of money on fittings & to that money toward something else.
 

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Such a tease......lol. All options would look fantastic, but I'm secretly rooting for the chrome plating.</div>
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Sorting through all the pics now... photo bomb soon <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"><br><br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/170#post_26287953" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
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+1 tor chrome plated...</div>
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I think you'll be happy <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br><div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1622492/build-log-the-big-red-devastator-caselabs-thw10-custom-powder-coating/170#post_26288041" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
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I'm doing my first WC build, and just realized today I need some 45s and male x male rotaries. Good to hear that the pros do this too lol <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif"></div>
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Welcome and yes even with careful planning there is always something else needed it seems like.
 

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<b><span style="font-size:16px;">Pump set-up finished</span></b><br><br>
When I was first thinking of how I wanted to finish the pump mounting brackets, I must admit that I was feeling a little lazy at the time. "I'll just paint these real quick and be done with them" is what I was thinking. But after some thought, I decided that they just must be chrome plated!<br><br>
On a sad side note, the chrome shop I've been using that has been family run for generations, and many decades was forced to shut it's doors due to ever increasing rules and regulations <img alt="mad.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/mad.gif"><br><br>
I had to talk the owner into doing this last project for me because they were closing in just a few weeks, I said "please it's the last pieces I need chrome plated for this build". He's always been interested in what I bring in because I'm the only person that brought computer parts in for plating, so he agreed to do it. They are closed now and this is the final job they did for me.<br><br>
To recap what you are looking at here:<br><ul class="bbcode_list"><li>Dual Aquacomputer D5 Pumps with Aquabus Interface to be controlled from an Aquaero</li>
<li>Bitspower Dual D5 Top - Acrylic version - hand polished for 10 plus hours</li>
<li>Bitspower low profile stop plugs in chrome</li>
<li>Dual Bitspower D5 mod kits - modded to fit the Aquacomputer D5 pumps then chrome plated</li>
<li>Custom made pump brackets - chrome plated</li>
<li>Custom made acrylic spacer between the pump top and brackets</li>
<li>MDPC-X sleeving - Italian Red, Black and Platinum Grey</li>
<li>Darkside 3mm white LEDs custom sleeved with fan connector</li>
<li>Isolate It! Sorbothane Vibration Damping material under the brackets</li>
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This is the back side. I sleeved the power cable using the classic red for power and black for ground. That cable will plug directly into the power supply which is right above where the pumps mount.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102372/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102372" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102372/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
I unsleeved the stock Darkside 3mm LEDs and joined them together with MDPC-X sleeving and put a fan connector on the end that will plug into the Splitty I'm using as a LED power distribution block.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102373/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102373" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102373/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
Front view<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102374/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102374" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102374/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
I still have the protective plastic on the bottom of the vibration damping material. I'll peel that off before the final mounting. It's sticky but not too sticky.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102378/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102378" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102378/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102376/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102376" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102376/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
I took these pictures outside with overcast skies<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102382/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102382" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102382/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102383/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102383" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102383/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102384/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102384" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102384/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102432/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102432" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102432/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102433/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102433" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102433/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br><br>
Let's see how it looks in the dark with the LEDs on.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102386/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102386" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102386/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102387/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102387" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102387/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102388/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102388" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102388/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
Here is with some red coolant in the top. That's distilled water with some red dye.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102395/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102395" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102395/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102396/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102396" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102396/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
You can see the overcast is burning off in the middle of my photo session.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102400/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102400" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102400/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102399/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102399" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102399/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
Now the overcast is burned off completely.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102402/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102402" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102402/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102403/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102403" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102403/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102404/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102404" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102404/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
I like the reflection of the connector on the chrome pump bracket here.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102405/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102405" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102405/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
Finally dark shots with red coolant and the LEDs on.<br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102407/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102407" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102407/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102406/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="3102406" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3102406/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 333px"></a><br><br><br>
I have a tremendous amount of time invested here, but I'm very happy with how this pump set-up turned out <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif"><br><br>
I will get some more pictures once the pumps are actually mounted in the case. I had to take the reservoirs back out which I'll cover in the next update.
 

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Well, that is just awesome. Sorry to hear about the chrome shop though.<br><br>
I'm thinking of a dual D5 serial top but I'm unsure of which to pursue if any. I want to run D5 Strongs at higher voltage but suspect that many of the aftermarket top makers were lazy in their volute design compared to the original Laing volutes. A fully driven D5 Strong may lift the impeller in an aftermarket top with a mediocre volute that would otherwise be fine for a normal D5. I think Martin of MLL had this issue.<br><br>
Obviously, you'll be fine like this. The lighting looks great with the red liquid.<br><br>
In fact, this vertical mount may be the best way to go for my situation. Inspiring.
 

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Beautiful pump setup. Beautiful.
 

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