Overclock.net banner

1 - 20 of 32 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Hello everyone,<br><br>
I joined the site to post some pics of my SFF rig with the Node 304 and GTX Titan. This will hopefully help anyone looking to make a similar build as the components needed to cram everything in as well as overheating issues can be a bit of a challenge in this case without some planning.<br><br>
The components:<br><br>
Fractal Design Node 304 case<br>
ASRock z77e-ITX mini-itx motherboard<br>
Intel Core i7 3770K CPU<br>
Corsair H90 CPU cooler<br>
Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3-1866 ram<br>
Nvidia GTX Titan GPU<br>
Intel 525 mSATA 240GB SSD<br>
Silverstone Strider Gold ST65F-G 650W PSU<br><br>
Main concerns when choosing parts:<br><br><b>GTX 690 vs GTX Titan in the Node 304</b><br><br>
The GTX 690 is slightly more powerful than a Titan and will fit in the Node 304. I have seen this topic floating around a bit, however, the TItan's cooling solution is a blower, meaning that the hot air gets pulled in and blown outside the rear of the case. The GTX 690 cooling however is NOT a blower, and in fact blows its hot air out into the case by necessity due to its dual GPU configuration. Although still possible to use, an GTX 690 may turn your Node 304 into a heat box (as "Rossb" found out <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/t/1328389/fractal-node-304-with-gtx-690-and-a-big-cooler-and-a-long-story">here</a>)<br><br><b>PSU size limitations when using a long graphics card and Modular vs Non-Modular</b><br><br>
This component was actually the biggest pain to pick because you can't fit a modular psu longer than 140mm with a long graphics card in the Node 304. A non-modular 160mm PSU would work as well but then you end up with a mess of cabling in this tiny box. They recommend 550W-600W for a Titan rig so the Silverstone Strider Gold 650W ST65F-G is one of the few options available currently as it is fully modular, 140mm, with lots of headroom power. I also opted to use the Silverstone PP05 short cable kit which greatly reduced cable clutter. As you can see from the pics below, there is some cable bending required near the GPU but still adequate room. There's a few people that seem to be having trouble with this PSU but it has been completely silent and a very solid performer for me so far.<br><br><b>mSATA SSD under the mobo heat concerns</b><br><br>
I had originally planned to use the ASUS P8Z77 deluxe mini itx board that has the daughter board for power phasing but it was sold out at the time, so I chose the ASRock board instead. This board also happens to have a mSATA slot on its under side. I took advantage of this to reduce cable clutter and put in the Intel 525 SSD. There isn't much air circulation under there but the board hasnt gone over 65C yet no matter what I throw at it. Intel rates this board up to 70C which might be too close for some people, so then a regular old 2.5 inch SSD might be a better solution for you.<br><br>
As a side note, you can only use two of the three dual hard drive brackets with a long graphics card.<br><br><b>Corsair H90 clearance</b><br><br>
This closed loop liquid cooler has a massive 140mm radiator/fan on it which as shown in the pics below leaves just enough room (2mm) for the Titan. I also used the 140mm fan that came with the Node 304 to make a push-pull config with the two fans to shave a few degrees off CPU temps.<br><br>
I think that more or less covers it. The Node 304 with all this packed in it is incredibly silent and runs cool, I couldn't be happier. Here are the pics:<br><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356747/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356747" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356747/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356748/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356748" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356748/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356749/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356749" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356749/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356751/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356751" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356751/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 469px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356752/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356752" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356752/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356753/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356753" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356753/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356754/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356754" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356754/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356755/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356755" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356755/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356756/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356756" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356756/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356757/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356757" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356757/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356758/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356758" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356758/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356760/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356760" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356760/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356761/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356761" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356761/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a>
 

·
Still a GPU Aficionado
Joined
·
1,386 Posts
Glad everything fit well, it looks great!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,125 Posts
Nice job! <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
656 Posts
I love it can yiu post some shots ofnit all set up on a desk so I can get an idea of size and how it would sit on a desk. My haf xb while not sff is quite large when you actually sit and think about where your going to put it.<br><br>
Sent from my SCH-R950 using Tapatalk 2
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter #5
Well, I don't have a desk (I leave that kind of thing at work <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"> ) but here it is on the media shelf. For reference, right next to it is a 5-bay Drobo, and a wii, xbox, etc, hopefully you can sort of judge the size by that. I included a side shot of it too, its actually a bit longer than I originally thought, going all the way to the back.<br><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356805/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356805" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356805/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a><br><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356806/"><img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="1356806" data-type="61" src="http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1356806/width/350/height/700/flags/LL" style="; width: 350px; height: 261px"></a>
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,559 Posts
Nice, I was wondering whether the H90 would fit in the Node 304. Now I know it is possible. That GTX Titan is huge inside such a small case.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
790 Posts
Very cool build, brings a smile to my face when someone crams a Titan in a Mini ITX case. What temps are you seeing under load for CPU/GPU? What are your fan directions?<br>
I really like the Node but I had some misgivings about the PSU and GPU encroaching into each others space. Seems like you handled it quite nicely though. <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
The two 92mm front fans are intake, and the two 140mm rear fans are exhaust setup as push-pull with the H90.<br><br>
CPU temps for the hottest core (Core #1) are around 32C idle and 58C %100 load using Prime95 w/ max heat test for a very long time, same max temp result with Linpack. I'm not fully satisfied with these temps, guru3D has them at 26C idle and 50C %100 load with a 3770K & H90.<br><br>
I'm not sure if the case is to blame however because the airflow appears to be great. I've tested with the case open and also cranked the crap out of the fans with not much difference. The problem may be my use of the thermal pad that came with the H90, perhaps some articsilver5 or whatever is popular these days would shave off another few degrees. I'm not comfortable doing something insane like de-lidding <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"><br><br>
As for the GPU, being in this mini-itx case may not be a big factor simply because it is a blower cooler and the node 304 has a massive side vent for the GPU to pull air in, through the vapor chamber, then out the back without affecting the case heat or airflow very much. The Falcon NW Tiki boutique pc (which inspired me to build this) crams a Titan in a much tighter space because of this.<br><br>
GPU idles at 26C and will hit 80C for 3DMark FireStrike Extreme setting tests or a couple hours of Crysis 3. Due to GPU Boost 2.0 though it will auto-overclock itself until it hits 80C anyways so I'm not sure how valid these results are in terms of being in this case.<br><br>
In fact, the biggest temp concern I have with this setup is the mSATA SSD under the motherboard, 65C is awfully close to the max 70C recommended by Intel. Since the case fans are higher rather than lower the airflow down there is minimal. I was thinking perhaps making some sort channel to bring a bit of air down there.<br><br>
For the cabling between the GPU and PSU, I think the room offered by the short 140mm PSU would actually make it possible to bend the cables in such a way that they don't touch the graphics card board at all. I wanted the top to be free of cables though so I kind of stuffed them all in that crack.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
790 Posts
The CPU temps look great, if you want them to be lower it's just for the street cred <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"><br><br>
From what I read the H90 already has some pretty high quality TIM.<br><br>
The Titan is very impressive, built in temp dependent overclocking is pretty interesting....that might be worth tinkering to keep it below 80 degrees<br><br>
Have you experimented with other fan directions? I know if you made the rear fans intake the CPU max temp would go down but probably raise your SSD temps which I know is close to threshold. What if you made all the fans exhaust? I know that sounds counter intuitive but with my little tinkering with SSF cases they seem to behave differently then traditional sized enclosures. Your idle temps might take a hit but I wonder what impact it would have on your max temps.<br><br>
Very beast the way you have it now though. <img alt="thumb.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/thumb.gif">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
271 Posts
<div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/1372265/build-pics-node-304-gtx-titan-h90#post_19555645" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Kyxter</strong> <a href="/t/1372265/build-pics-node-304-gtx-titan-h90#post_19555645"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br>
The two 92mm front fans are intake, and the two 140mm rear fans are exhaust setup as push-pull with the H90.<br><br>
CPU temps for the hottest core (Core #1) are around 32C idle and 58C %100 load using Prime95 w/ max heat test for a very long time, same max temp result with Linpack. I'm not fully satisfied with these temps, guru3D has them at 26C idle and 50C %100 load with a 3770K & H90.<br><br>
I'm not sure if the case is to blame however because the airflow appears to be great. I've tested with the case open and also cranked the crap out of the fans with not much difference. The problem may be my use of the thermal pad that came with the H90, perhaps some articsilver5 or whatever is popular these days would shave off another few degrees. I'm not comfortable doing something insane like de-lidding <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"><br></div>
</div>
<br>
Temps do seem a bit high, I've got an NZXT X40 single fan in pull mode AIO with a 3770K OC'd mildly to 4.1G and it idles 25-26C(~3C above mobo normally) , ran Prime95 in max heat mode but only for 20 minutes or so, hottest core got to 45C seemed to be very slowly rising perhaps. The cooler fan never broke off normal 875-925 RPMs(tracked ~10-11C above mobo during heat test) have fan set for quiet operation priority, I was happy with the result.
 

·
amd stan
Joined
·
208 Posts
Nicee... Now I know I can fit a Titan and H90 in a Node, which i've really wanted to do for a loooongg time now. Thanks buddy
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter #13
All fans external? that is interesting, I'll give it a go and see what happens!<br><br>
As for the GPU Boost 2.0, there is a utility for tinkering with the target temp say 70C or 90C, etc
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
790 Posts
So NCIX has the node 304 on sale for 79.99 shipped, I ordered one. <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14 Posts
Discussion Starter #15
Awesome! The Node rocks! <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1 Posts
Hi Frak0,<br>
I am very insterested by your setup, can you please share your components configuration and the noise of the system?<br>
Thanks!
 

·
Did you say Abe Lincoln?
Joined
·
3,148 Posts
I love this its actually my dream build. It's literally what I have entered in the win your dream rig from OCN <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br>
Nice work. I plan on stuffing all of my components into a node in the coming months. I'm going to see just how much I can fit into the node seriously. a full sized phanteks heat sink and a 164mm in length psu. Of course a bit of lite modding will be required.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
363 Posts
Amazing work. Sorry to be kickin why would the 690 be faster then the Titan? I'm so confused on nvidia naming
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6 Posts
@Kyxter: Now that you've had the rig up and running for a while have you have any issues with it? Ive also read the poor reviews on the PSU, so I was hoping for some good news before I take the plunge.
 
1 - 20 of 32 Posts
Top