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I am building 3 comps for friends. Two will be for basic things like web browsing, word processing, and watching videos. The other will be for simple gaming, like Starcraft 2. A key thing is that I want them stay fast, not get slow after a year or so.

I'm looking for feedback on compatibility, and if they are too overpowered/underpowered, or if I should just use different parts for any reason. Also, any suggestions on where to buy, since i'm buying a decent amount of parts, are appreciated. I'm looking on Newegg now.

Here is what I'm thinking for the first two:

Mobo:
BIOSTAR A880G+ AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
-&60

CPU:
-AMD A4-3300 Llano 2.5GHz Socket FM1 65W Dual-Core Desktop APU with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 6410D AD3300OJGXBOX
$65

HD:
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
-$70 - Comes with DVD Burner - MSI 24X DVD Burner

Ram:
Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX
- $30-40
or
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996770
-$40

If this is too much I could always split one package and do 4gb each comp.

Case:
Logisys CS-206BK 10-Bay ATX Mid Tower Computer Case w/480W 20+4-pin PSU (Black)
-$35

For the 3rd (Gaming Computer light)

It will be the same with the addition of

EVGA 01G-P3-1312-LR GeForce 210 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card

I already have this in another computer that I plan on upgrading

And this

AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80
or similar dual core AMD

Do these parts look like they will work? Thanks for the feedback.

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Don't get the CS206BK and use the onboard PSU. I had this case and the included PSU is not fit for modern builds. Couldn't even run an Athlon II x2 PC (i.e. <100W power consumption) without 12V voltages being out of spec at 13+V. It's a 200W (going by the 12V rail) rated, upmarked as 480W, probably capable of only supplying 100W continuously. Just avoid it.

Splitting and going "4GB each" is a bad idea, you might as well buy 4x2GB for the same cost. Going single channel will hamper a Llano APU build because it will restrict bandwidth, which is very important to both the CPU and the GPU. Thus your performance will be significantly impacted by a RAM bottleneck.

Get these instead:

ASRock A55M-HVS - $57.64 shipped after promo code DRAGON [Superbiiz]

Kingston 2x2GB DDR3-1600 - $23 shipped [NCIX] (build will never need >4GB)
Apex DM-387 mATX small form factor case + PSU - $40 shipped [NCIX]
 

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Thanks for the info XD. I think I will get those items you suggested. I take it that the AMD A4-3300 Llano 2.5GHz is good for this build too. Would all this also be good for a light gaming computer build (mainly SC2) or would I need to upgrade something?
 

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Do you have any recommendations on a case + PSU that can handle a gtx 460? I'm assuming that would work with the BIOSTAR A880G+ AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX.
 

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I've been working on a budget build for a friend and I've been reasonably impressed with the graphical performance of the Llano 3870K + 6670 in hybrid crossfire. It's interesting and, I believe, light on power draw. Would definitely work well enough for SC2. And the two of them together are ~$200, depending on the deal you get on the card, which isn't too shabby for a CPU and GPU on a budget.
 

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The 6670 is a separate (though affordable) graphics card. The GPU on the Llano is really, really lackluster for gaming but it can be crossfired with a standalone 6670 to essentially get the performance of a 6770 - in some cases up to 7x the FPS of the onboard GPU. It's a pretty neat solution
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That is a great idea tehsciz! I've decided that will be my build for my gaming comp
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For the light gaming comp they can have my current pc
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Here is what I'm doing for the 2 Basic comps:
Mobo:
ASRock A55M-HVS - $57.64
CPU:
AMD A4-3300 Llano 2.5GHz Socket FM1 65W Dual-Core Desktop APU with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 6410D AD3300OJGXBOX $65
Ram:
Kingston 2x2GB DDR3-1600 - $23
Case + PSU:
Apex DM-387 mATX small form factor case + PSU - $40 shipped [NCIX]
HD + DVD burner:
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
-$70 - Comes with DVD Burner - MSI 24X DVD Burner

How does that look? Should that be plenty fast for web browsing and watching movies?
 

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that looks like a more then adequate build for web browsing and watching films so good choice and doesn't look like it will break the bank either
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Sweet! I just have to figure out my light gaming comp, check this out:

What I own:
Mobo:
BIOSTAR A880G+ AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
GPU:
EVGA 01G-P3-1312-LR GeForce 210 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card
CPU:
AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor HDX545WFK2DGI - OEM
Case + PSU:
Logisys CS-206BK 10-Bay ATX Mid Tower

What I need:
Kingston 2x2GB DDR3-1600 - $23 shipped [NCIX]

HD + DVD burner:
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $70 -
Comes with DVD Burner - MSI 24X DVD Burner

Pretty easy considering I have everything but the ram and Hard drive. That is the only question: is the ram good enough for this build?

Thanks again!
 

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It is extremely unwise to go with the CS206BK and make use of the included PSU because it is not ready for modern PCs - it is an over-rated 480W that is actually a 200W and risky to use on modern builds because even on lower power builds (i.e. Athlon II x2 and 880G, as in my case) it cannot keep the voltages within specs. I don't like the case either, it's got many sharp edges and it's really cheap (as in, easily bends/feels like it will fall apart). Most prebuilt PCs offer better case quality :/

Look for a different case/PSU combo. consider going small form factor. NCIX has the Apex DM-387 for $40. It has a decent PSU that I'm using in a SFF build right now.

I should warn you that free shipping from NCIX only applies when you order more than $50 shipped worth of parts. 2x2GB of DDR3-1600 seems more than enough for this purpose though..... depending on the task even 1333 wouldn't kill you, unless there are overclocking plans (545 is locked multi)
 

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Thanks for the info xd. I figure I'll just use the CS206BK case for one of the basic builds i'm doing. After doing some more research I'm just going to splurge on a semi-decent case and PSU. I just found:

NZXT GAMMA Classic Series GAMA-001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
- looks nice and is 15% off right now. Glad I didn't get the cheap Raidmax unit.

On newegg I also just found a COOLER MASTER GX 450W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
- $25 after all rebates and promocodes.

Are these legit? It almost seems to good to be true.

I realize that I don't know anything about Cases or PSUs, can someone tell me if theses would work together? I appreciate it!
 

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Thanks for the help. I just ordered everything for all my comps. I will post an update once I get everything and start putting it together.
 
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