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Ok so I've been waiting to do this for a long time. It's tough seeing so many sleeving threads with no solid answers. Forgive me if my pictures aren't great, I'm not a photographer!<br><br>
Sleeving Brands here:<br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g35/c493/s1326/list/p1/SleevingHeatshrink-Sleeving_-_High_Density-18_HD_Sleeving-Page1.html" target="_blank">Kobra Sleeving</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5337413396&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%2Ffurryletters%2Fm.html%3F_nkw%3D%26_armrs%3D1%26_from%3D%26_ipg%3D%26_trksid%3Dp3686" target="_blank">Furryletters Clean Cut</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://en.mdpc-x.com/mdpc-sleeve.htm" target="_blank">MDPC-X/Murdermods (Only orange atm)</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g35/c175/s359/list/p1/SleevingHeatshrink-Sleeving-18_Sleeving-Page1.html" target="_blank">Flexo PET</a><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5337413396&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D350423123521%26var%3D620009297446%26ssPageName%3DSTRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT" target="_blank">550lb Paracord</a><br><br><br>
Here all all the sleevings<br><img alt="supplies.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/supplies.jpg"><br><br>
Used a yellow wire to try and show through the sleeving the easiest<br><img alt="wire.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/wire.jpg"><br><br><br><br><span style="font-size:36px;"><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;">PET</span></b></span><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g35/c175/s359/list/p1/SleevingHeatshrink-Sleeving-18_Sleeving-Page1.html" target="_blank">STORE<br></a><br>
Please NOTE that PET is TERRIBLE. I never noticed just how bad it was until I used it. Just DON'T buy it <img alt="wink.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/wink.gif"><br><br><img alt="pet2.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/pet2.jpg"><img alt="pet3.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/pet3.jpg"><br><img alt="pet.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/pet.jpg"><br><br>
Notice how you can easily see the yellow wire through the sleeving. It would be even more noticeable if the sleeving were a darker color. Sleeving with this was easy though, no snags or tears. The only cool thing about this gray PET was that it had a "metallic" look, but that's about it.<br><br><b>PROS:</b><br>
Cheap<br>
Easy to use<br>
Metallic<br><br><b>CONS:</b><br>
Everything else<br>
See through<br>
DON'T BUY IT<br>
It's crap<br><br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="font-size:36px;">KOBRA SLEEVING</span></span></b><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g35/c493/s1326/list/p1/SleevingHeatshrink-Sleeving_-_High_Density-18_HD_Sleeving-Page1.html" target="_blank">STORE</a><br><br><img alt="kobra2.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/kobra2.jpg"><img alt="kobra_black.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/kobra_black.jpg"><br><img alt="kobra.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/kobra.jpg"><br><br>
If you look at the gray color, you can see a little bit of the yellow wire through the sleeving. However, the black basically showed none of the yellow. I'm not sure why this is since they appear to be the exact same. The Kobra seemed pretty nice. It looks good and you wouldn't notice the wire color unless you brought it an inch from your face. The biggest thing I HATED about this sleeving, was that it is a pain in the A$$ to use. It is very small compared to the other 1/8" sleeving I have and it makes it very prone to snagging. I can't imagine sleeving an entire psu with this, it would be VERY, VERY annoying.<br><br><img alt="kobra_colors.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/kobra_colors.jpg"><br><img alt="kobra_colors2.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/kobra_colors2.jpg"><br><br>
The 2nd picture definitely shows the actual colors much better. The colors look great, they are deep and vibrant. They are labeled UV however, only the green really showed a lot of UV reaction, the orange a little, but none of the others. I couldn't get a good pic to show this so you'll have to take my word. I also threw in the MDPC-X orange, I think it's color is a little better than that of the Kobra orange. It's just brighter and reacted much better with a UV light.<br><br><b>PROS:</b><br>
High quality<br>
Colors look very good<br>
Not see through<br><b><br>
CONS:</b><br>
Extremely difficult to use due to its small diameter<br>
EXPENSIVE<br>
UV only works well with green<br>
Some of the wire showed with the gray sleeve<br><br><b>COST:</b><br>
$0.50/foot<br><br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="font-size:36px;">FURRYLETTERS CLEAN CUT</span></span></b><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5337413396&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%2Ffurryletters%2Fm.html%3F_nkw%3D%26_armrs%3D1%26_from%3D%26_ipg%3D" target="_blank">STORE</a><br><br>
First off, I want to note that furryletters (Barry) is an extremely nice guy. I emailed him and asked for a small sample to do this review and he instantly agreed and shipped me small amounts of black and gray clean cut sleeving.<br><br><img alt="cleancut.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/cleancut.jpg"><br><img alt="cleancut2.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/cleancut2.jpg"><br><br>
As you can see this is QUALITY sleeving! It's very thick and hides the wires like a champ. It looks almost identical to that of the MDPC-X sleeving, and in my case it actually looks like the weave is tighter with Furryletters clean cut. Using it was a breeze too. It's diameter is wide enough that it just slides right over the wires and I didn't get any snags or rips or anything. The cost of this stuff is also incredible. I did notice though that he wasn't selling any gray clean cut in his ebay store. You might have to contact him directly for this. Only real cons is that it only comes in black and gray at the moment.<br><br><b>PROS:</b><br>
Incredible quality<br>
Very tight weave<br>
No chance of seeing the wires<br>
Very cheap<br>
Barry is a fantastic seller<br><br><b>Cons:</b><br>
Thickness may create some bulkiness<br>
Only available in black and gray<br>
It's too good<br><br><b>PRICE:</b><br>
$0.22/foot (100ft for $22.35 after shipping)<br><br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="font-size:36px;">MDPC-X/MurderMods (Orange only)</span></span></b><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://en.mdpc-x.com/mdpc-sleeve.htm" target="_blank">STORE</a><br><br>
Everyone knows about MDPC-X. They are renowned for selling the absolute best quality sleeving on the market. They sell in all colors and sizes. Unfortunentally I was only able to get my hands on some orange. Papasmurf from OCN was very kind and shipped me a piece of his sleeving! Couldn't have written this without his help.<br><br><img alt="orange.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/orange.jpg"><br><img alt="kobra_colors2.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/kobra_colors2.jpg"><br><br>
First off, you'll notice that the MDPC-X has little bit of a nicer color, in my opinion, than the Kobra sleeving. It brighter and more orange while the Kobra's looks a tiny bit red. This sleeving is fantanstic quality and is literally identical to that of Furryletters Clean Cut, but with an orange color. The sleeving is extremely easy to use, it just slides right over the wires thanks to its thick diameter. The UV in this is actually worth noting too! The UV for the orange is actually pretty bright and would definitely look pretty cool in a case. The biggest problem with MDPC-X has always been the price tag. However, I do know that they have recently lowered the cost of shipping to help with international sales.<br><b><br>
PROS:</b><br>
Very high quality<br>
Tight sleeving<br>
Orange looks fantastic<br>
Very UV reactant<br>
Price lowered<br><br><b>CONS:</b><br>
Price is still a little high compared to others<br>
Not quite as tight as Clean Cut<br>
Price is about double that of clean cut<br><br><b>Cost:</b><br>
$0.40/foot (based on 100ft + shipping)<br><br><br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="font-size:36px;">550lb Paracord</span></span></b><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5337413396&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D350423123521%26var%3D620009297446%26ssPageName%3DSTRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT" target="_blank">STORE</a><br><br>
I know this is the most anticipated of the sleeving. Paracord is basically nylon sleeving with rope inside of it.<br><br><img alt="paracord.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/paracord.jpg"><br><img alt="paracord2.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/paracord2.jpg"><br><br>
The first thing you'll probably notice is the "hair like" frays. This is by far the worst thing about paracord. Since it's made of nylon strands instead of the standard plastic, it's prone to display micro strands if the surface is rubbed too much. I did find that running a lighter over it quickly eliminated most of the problem, however, it could get annoying doing this for every wire. The hairs didn't really reappear though after I did this which is good.<br><br>
The thing I actually like most of about paracord is the fabric look. Since it's nylon and not plastic, it looks kind of shiny and soft, instead of shiny plastic. It looks a little bit more...elegant. To be honest it is very hard to compare this with the other brands. It's sort of in a league of its own since it's made of completely different material.<br><br>
The nylon makes it the most flexible of the sleevings. It has an extremely tight weave since it's fabric and you'll never see a wire through this stuff. Using it was some where in the middle. It's thick enough to slide on, but due to its fabric material, it was easy to get snagged by the metal ends of the cables. If you tape of the ends better than me you probably wouldn't have a problem. Another thing I noticed is that it looks fantastic, but if you look very closely it looks a little less sleek than the others. Again this is because of the fabric material. I think if you had an entire psu sleeved in it, you would never notice any imperfection though. The price is...UNBELIEVABLE. You can get 100ft of this in any color for $7.50 after shipping! I haven't seen the other colors, but in the pics they look pretty bright and appealing. Paracord seems like the perfect alternative to those looking for something cheaper than standard sleeving, or even people who like the fabric look of it, which I personally love. Also, other con is it's not UV.<br><br><b>PROS:</b><br>
CHEAPER THAN AIR<br>
Tight weave<br>
Gray color is awesome looking<br>
Fabric looks adds a unique style<br><br><b>CONS:</b><br>
Hair like micro strands on surface<br>
Snags easier than clean cut and mdpc-x<br>
Not UV<br><br><b>PRICE:</b><br>
$0.075/foot OMG<br><br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="font-size:36px;"><br>
SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISONS</span></span></b><br><br>
Shows the colors of the grays<br><img alt="hand.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/hand.jpg"><br><br><img alt="compare_1.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/compare_1.jpg"><br><br>
You can see the diameter difference in the Kobra vs Clean cut / MDPC-X<br><img alt="black.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/black.jpg"><br><br><br><br>
I know its messy but I'm tired of writing so I'll fix it up later.<br><br>
Also, if anybody has anything to contribute please do! I want this to be as comprehensive as possible, and to end all of the other sleeving question threads =D
 

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for better pics btw, turn off flash and turn on macro/super macro. That way we can see the sleeving better.<br><br>
Nice review though! I'd like to see a review on Large sleeving (instead of 1/8", the one which most PSU's have stock)
 

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Better representation of paracord<br><br>
Feel free to use it<br><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/case-mods-general-discussion/775454-now-w-video-cheap-beautiful-sleeving.html">http://www.overclock.net/case-mods-general-discussion/775454-now-w-video-cheap-beautiful-sleeving.html</a><br><br><img alt="PB290798.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/RideZiLightning/PB290798.jpg"><br><br><img alt="PB280792.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l151/RideZiLightning/PB280792.jpg">
 

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<img alt="hand.jpg" class="bbcode_img" src="http://www.pwnengine.com/images/random/comparison/hand.jpg"><br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Morizuno;12214644</strong> <br>
for better pics btw, turn off flash and turn on macro/super macro. That way we can see the sleeving better.<br><br>
Nice review though! I'd like to see a review on Large sleeving (instead of 1/8", the one which most PSU's have stock)</div>
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Aw ok, thanks I know almost nothing about taking pictures =P<br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>RideZiLightning;12215997</strong> <br>
Better representation of paracord<br><br>
Feel free to use it<br><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.overclock.net/case-mods-general-discussion/775454-now-w-video-cheap-beautiful-sleeving.html">http://www.overclock.net/case-mods-general-discussion/775454-now-w-video-cheap-beautiful-sleeving.html</a><br></div>
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Yeah those are the first paracord pics I had seen! I just people to make sure they know that it can get those hair like strands, especially when you're looking close up.
 

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My thoughts:<br><br>
1) PET: Completely agree. It's utter crap. Do not buy.<br>
2) Kobra: Agree as well. Kind of hard to work with since it doesn't expand as well as clean cut or PET, but not as hard to work with as paracord.<br>
3) Paracord: I absolutely cannot stand the stuff. Every time I turn around, I snag the stuff. I have had a power supply sitting in a drawer for 2 months waiting to be done simply because I cannot bring myself to finish it with this crap. Absolutely hate working with it.<br>
4) Furryletters (Barry): I was going to do a similar review on different styles of sleeving a few months ago. He seemed way too put out to provide me even a few sample pieces of sleeving without charging me $50 to do it. He can kiss my rear end. I'll spend my money elsewhere.<br>
5) MDPC: Have not used. Can't wait to try it.<br><br>
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I've got some spare MDPC-X sleeve laying here, I can send ya foot of it (for each color that I have) so you can better gauge the quality. Go ahead and PM me if you're interested.<br><br>
Just as well, if you use natural lighting with a darker background you'll get better pics.
 

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<div class="quote-block">3) Paracord: I absolutely cannot stand the stuff. Every time I turn around, I snag the stuff. I have had a power supply sitting in a drawer for 2 months waiting to be done simply because I cannot bring myself to finish it with this crap. Absolutely hate working with it.</div>
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Did you put a piece of electrical tape over the pins? I've sleeved my PSU and all my fans with the stuff and it wasn't difficult to work with at all. The most difficult thing I've encountered with it is tying the fillaments to the pins on fans so I can pull them through.
 

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Cant wait for my MDPC in the B-Magic color to be delivered. I was about to go with the Kobra but glad I didn't, maybe I'll use them for black color if I need some small quantity quickly.<br>
You can't deny MDPC has the most amazing colors.<br><br>
Thanks for the review.
 

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If you just need a small amount of black go with the Clean Cut from Furry Letters. Less expensive than Kobra and just as good if not slightly better.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>PapaSmurf;12228823</strong> <br>
If you just need a small amount of black go with the Clean Cut from Furry Letters. Less expensive than Kobra and just as good if not slightly better.</div>
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Just as good???<br><br>
The Clean Cut is amazing compared to the Kobra.<br><br>
Hell, I even find myself recommending MDPC now just because it's bloody cheaper than the Kobra with shipping including and that's just sad.<br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>SmasherBasher;12218024</strong> <br>
My thoughts:<br><br>
1) PET: Completely agree. It's utter crap. Do not buy.<br>
2) Kobra: Agree as well. Kind of hard to work with since it doesn't expand as well as clean cut or PET, but not as hard to work with as paracord.<br>
3) Paracord: I absolutely cannot stand the stuff. Every time I turn around, I snag the stuff. I have had a power supply sitting in a drawer for 2 months waiting to be done simply because I cannot bring myself to finish it with this crap. Absolutely hate working with it.<br>
4) Furryletters (Barry): I was going to do a similar review on different styles of sleeving a few months ago. He seemed way too put out to provide me even a few sample pieces of sleeving without charging me $50 to do it. He can kiss my rear end. I'll spend my money elsewhere.<br>
5) MDPC: Have not used. Can't wait to try it.<br><br>
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Wow...Barry is normally super easy to work with but I mean, I can understand why he wouldn't send out free samples...he loses money. Although, I do buy from him and so far, I've been more than satisfied with my purchases and him. He ships the same day as long as I order before 5pm and it arrives 1-2 days later.<br><br>
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Great post...I only really disagree with your Kobra notes. Kobra is not just medium cost. It is currently the most expensive sleeving on the market. It beats out MDPC which I thought was hard to do. Even at Koolertek.com, who has the lowest price for Kobra sleeving, it's still $0.59 a foot. 100 feet will cost you $59 + shipping....ZOMG. Total cost including shipping for 30 meters (just under 100 feet...I think it's like 98. something feet) of MDPC is about $40 USD (it may be higher...damn currency rates).<br><br>
For my tastes, the only good sleeving is the Techflex Clean Cut but it only comes in black and grey. For colors, you pretty much have to go MDPC to get the best bang for your buck which is sad as Kobra used to be around $0.19 a foot.
 

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why is there a white clean cut?
 

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The only time Kobra is a good option is when you only need a few feet of a color that isn't black or grey. While the cost per foot would be higher, if you only need 5 foot to finish a job, do a few fans, etc, then it is still a viable option. Of course that's what I've been saying ever since they jacked the price up. I ordered mine just before they did it though, back when they actually paid you to take the Purple sleeve. The sleeve was .19 a foot with a .20 a foot discount on the purple so they were essentially paying you a penny to take it off of their hands (yes the price on my invoice shows -.01 per foot and it was taken off the total). It was the only reason I bought the purple.
 

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why is there a white clean cut?</div>
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I think it's grey clean cut with too bright illumination, as officially (on techflex's site) only black and grey exist <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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Wow, thanks, just went and bought a whole lot from Furryletters.
 

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why is there a white clean cut?</div>
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It's just cuz of my crappy photography skills =( Going to take some new pics soon, just been busy. So that's actually the gray stuff.<br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>PapaSmurf;12229171</strong> <br>
The only time Kobra is a good option is when you only need a few feet of a color that isn't black or grey. While the cost per foot would be higher, if you only need 5 foot to finish a job, do a few fans, etc, then it is still a viable option. Of course that's what I've been saying ever since they jacked the price up. I ordered mine just before they did it though, back when they actually paid you to take the Purple sleeve. The sleeve was .19 a foot with a .20 a foot discount on the purple so they were essentially paying you a penny to take it off of their hands (yes the price on my invoice shows -.01 per foot and it was taken off the total). It was the only reason I bought the purple.</div>
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I would agree that kobra is only good if you need a tiny amount.<br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Wow, thanks, just went and bought a whole lot from Furryletters.</div>
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You will be a very happy human =D<br><br><br>
UPDATE: Updated Kobra as it is very expensive for what you get!<br>
If anyone can share with me the exact cost of 100ft mdpcx shipped to US that would be awesome too
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>ramenraider;12237583</strong> <br>
UPDATE: Updated Kobra as it is very expensive for what you get!<br>
If anyone can share with me the exact cost of 100ft mdpcx shipped to US that would be awesome too</div>
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It would actually be 30 meters which is only 98 feet. Shipped to me in Rockford, IL it would be 29.09 Euros which is app. $40.14 including shipping.<br><br>
sleeve 20.04 euro $27.65<br>
shipping 9.05 euro $12.49<br>
total 29.09 euro $40.14
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>PapaSmurf;12238427</strong> <br>
It would actually be 30 meters which is only 98 feet. Shipped to me in Rockford, IL it would be 29.09 Euros which is app. $40.14 including shipping.<br><br>
sleeve 20.04 euro $27.65<br>
shipping 9.05 euro $12.49<br>
total 29.09 euro $40.14</div>
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Thanks, I updated the thread with MDPC-X at about $0.40/ft!
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>SmasherBasher;12218024</strong> <br>
My thoughts:<br><br>
1) PET: Completely agree. It's utter crap. Do not buy.<br>
2) Kobra: Agree as well. Kind of hard to work with since it doesn't expand as well as clean cut or PET, but not as hard to work with as paracord.<br>
3) Paracord: I absolutely cannot stand the stuff. Every time I turn around, I snag the stuff. I have had a power supply sitting in a drawer for 2 months waiting to be done simply because I cannot bring myself to finish it with this crap. Absolutely hate working with it.<br>
4) Furryletters (Barry): I was going to do a similar review on different styles of sleeving a few months ago. He seemed way too put out to provide me even a few sample pieces of sleeving without charging me $50 to do it. He can kiss my rear end. I'll spend my money elsewhere.<br>
5) MDPC: Have not used. Can't wait to try it.<br><br>
+ rep for great information.</div>
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I agree except I didn't really have any trouble with the paracord! You do have to tape up over the connectors to avoid snagging, and if you don't do this then I'm pretty sure it will tear your paracord to threads ><'<br><br>
Barry seemed really, really nice when I talked to him. He hooked me up with sample of black and gray extremely quick. Maybe he was having a bad day when he talked to you? haha I'm not sure why we got such different responses on the same subjects.<br><br>
U should make a "Smasher Approves this Thread" pin and I'll post it on the thread <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.overclock.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 
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