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my full specs<br>
AMD Athlon 3700+ 2.2 Ghz (San Diego)<br>
Maxtor 300Gb harddrive<br>
Samsung 80 Gb harddrive<br>
BFG Geforce 7900 GT OC<br>
2.00 Gb DDR400 Ram<br>
MSI K8N Neo4<br>
Antec Truepower 480 W duel 12 volt rail (18A per rail)<br>
Acer 19' LCD , Logitech G15 , Logitech Precision gaming headset<br>
Logitech MX518 mouse,Thermaltake Soprano case<br><br><br>
Everytime I try to OC either the BIOS doesn't boot or windows doesn't boot. Now I'm thinkin this is a RAM Problem as I have 4 DIMMS 3 of them are Kingston Value Ram and the other 512 is some unknown brand that came off a dell 3000. I also thought this might've been a PSU problem as I have 2 HDs, but I just saw someone with 4 HDs and it OCs fine. and also games like BF2 and BF2142 are running like crap. in a full 64 man server i'll get around 12-25 FPS. Does that have to do with the CPU clock? I was thinking of going with a Enermax Liberty 500W or 620 W because it has 22 Amps. Any sudgestions? On 3dmarl06 I got about 4100. and FEAR runs fine so it's not a broken card. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Mad">
 

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AMD do not like 4 sticks, especially value sticks. Try to get a 2gb kit. and what do you mean you can't OC? Can you at least raise it by one FSP?
 

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if it wont oc for ya you could always send it to me ;p
 

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ohh didn't know AMDs don't like 4 sticks. thanks for the quick reply, gona pick up a 2 GB kit soon. which company though? the XMS series? Well i can OC the CPU by..lets say 5, or 10. but sometimes the mobo bios doens't boot, so I have to open the side panel and press that red button on my mobo to clear the BIOS and try again. really annoying.<br />
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what about the low FPS issue...does that have anything to do with the CPU being at 2.2 Ghz? I've heard it can reach 2.6 at least. the 3700 san diego core I mean.
 

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yes i would say it is your odd ram that is causing the problem.<br />
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i have the 3700 also and with my 2gig of patriot ddr400 mine OC nicely but my crappy mobo won't raise volts any higher so i cant go above 2.7ghz <br />
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have you tryed defragging your HD since you installed BF2142?
 

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For your RAM i am no expert, but my RAM seems to do and ace job. But it depends on how much you are willing to pay. You can pick these up for about £170 new. But as for the low fps, the 3700 at stock is way capale of handling bf2. I had no problems as such and i was using a 7600gt with this setup. I would say its a psu problem but your psu seems fine, so im stumped.
 

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I tried on a friends OCZ PC-3200 DDR400 Platinum Edition 2GB. I was able to OC more. my question is...can this be a mobo problem? I remember playing around with it one day and I got some FPS increase by turning something on...now When i try it BIOS or Windows won't load at all. so my question is....a 2 GB kit or a Enermax Liberty 500W PSU? Im defraging now using windoes defragging thing. What does it do btw?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">I tried on a friends OCZ PC-3200 DDR400 Platinum Edition 2GB. I was able to OC more. my question is...can this be a mobo problem? I remember playing around with it one day and I got some FPS increase by turning something on...now When i try it BIOS or Windows won't load at all. so my question is....a 2 GB kit or a Enermax Liberty 500W PSU? Im defraging now using windoes defragging thing. What does it do btw?</div>

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</div>Did you raise the FSB and not lower the HT multiplier? you should set it to 4x which can go up to 250FSB.<br />
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Defragging puts spreaded bits of files together again and should increase system performance if you haven't done it for a while (on FAT32, if you have an NTFS drive it's not really needed), while doing it disconnect your pc from the internet (take out the cable) or else defragging will take longer.<br />
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Edit: I hope you have tried a memory divider also?
 

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yea, its probably the ram
 

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Well I found a review of my mobo that covers OC'ing a bit. <br />
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<a href="http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzE0LDIsLGhlbnRoaXN1YXN0" target="_blank">HERE</a><br />
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The Overclocking is done in the Cell Menu, towards the botom of that link. As I understand it. The first thing I should do is set the HT frequency on maybe 4? then adjust the FSB, go by increments of 10 or 5 everytime. then I need to adjust my CPU ratio. since mine is a 2.2 Ghz I put it on 11. and is that it? or Do i lower my ram to 166 from 200? Im new to this overclocking. DO I have to raise any of those voltages? No idea what memory dividers are...man Im noob at this. anyone care to educate me?
 

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You probably don't want to oc through software. I don't think its as safe and reliable as ocing in the bios, also there might be more options in the bios which can help you get a stable oc. A great ocing guide that I can recommend to you is at dfi-street.com in the ocin section labeled something like "ultimate ocing guide". Check it out, and read it more than once because I promise you won't get it the first time. When you are OCing just remember to keep your cpu load temp below 50-55c and with air cooling keep your voltage below 1.55.
 

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Panzer, there are SO many FAQ's and stickys on OC.net about overclocking. The basic rule is: bump up your Front Side Bus(FSB) about 50mhz, and then save bios and try to reboot. If reboot is sucessful, then power down and try for another 50mhz. If reboot fails, up the VCORE voltage the lowest amount possible (usually .015v), then try to reboot. Keep doing this until a.) you have hit a high voltage (over 1.5v) or b.) you cannot boot into windows. <br />
If you cannot reboot into windows, try upping your MCH (northbridge) voltage the minimum possible.<br />
If this does not work as well, try loosening your RAM timings. <br />
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If I were you I would immediately take out two sticks of RAM, and keep only two sticks in that are the same brandname, and loosen the timings to 5-4-4-15, simply to see if the RAM is the culprit to your non-overclocking halter. That proc should be able to hit high 2's low 3's on air.<br />
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MAKE SURE YOU LOCK YOUR PCI AND PCI-E! Lock your pci to 33mhz and your pci-e to 100mhz or else you may fry components on the board.<br />
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Let us know how this does you!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Panzer, there are SO many FAQ's and stickys on Overclock.net about overclocking. The basic rule is: bump up your Front Side Bus(FSB) about 50mhz, and then save bios and try to reboot. If reboot is sucessful, then power down and try for another 50mhz. If reboot fails, up the VCORE voltage the lowest amount possible (usually .015v), then try to reboot. Keep doing this until a.) you have hit a high voltage (over 1.5v) or b.) you cannot boot into windows.<br>
If you cannot reboot into windows, try upping your MCH (northbridge) voltage the minimum possible.<br>
If this does not work as well, try loosening your RAM timings.<br><br>
If I were you I would immediately take out two sticks of RAM, and keep only two sticks in that are the same brandname, and loosen the timings to 5-4-4-15, simply to see if the RAM is the culprit to your non-overclocking halter. That proc should be able to hit high 2's low 3's on air.<br><br>
MAKE SURE YOU LOCK YOUR PCI AND PCI-E! Lock your pci to 33mhz and your pci-e to 100mhz or else you may fry components on the board.<br><br>
Let us know how this does you!</div>
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I have no idea how to Lock the PCI and PCI-E. That link i posted on the other page has pic sof the BIOS. I don't see how I can lock it. I can adjust the speed though..do you mean to leave it at 100 MHZ?(PCI-E clock speed) I'll read some guides as soon as i get home.
 

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this should be in the AMD section not nvidia
 

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I've just taken out 1 GB of ram, leaving the DDR pair of 512 Kingston in there. I was able to go to 2.36 and when I checked the memory speed, it said it was 236 MHZ, and the timing was 3-7-7-10. So I think the OC problem has to do with the extremely **** ram I have. Thanks to all who answered. Much appreciated.
 
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